Blood Staining the Moon (Scrapped Scene)

**Reichu** · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 2:20 pm Post subject:

Just found something pretty cool in one of the 2.0 storyboard books (which are part of the CRC, I guess). Don't feel like making scans or shitty photos right now, so a lousy translation will have to do.

This is a cut excised from the end of Misato's flashback montage.

C402I
赤くなっている地球
南極＿かる血のりが吹き出している
リング状にも広がっていく
血のり

広がった血のりが
月に付く
しぶきも飛ぶ

The Earth turning red
Blood* spouts from the South Pole
The blood spreads out into a ring

The dissipated blood stains the Moon.
The splash/spray flies up.

*Literally "stage/fake blood", assuming that's what 血のり means here.

Really wish they'd included this, but I guess keeping the audience trolled was more important?

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Reichi-kun, your find has just began to debunk the Sequel Theory! And it is delicious...

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Shogo-Kun wrote:

Reichi-kun, your find has just began to debunk the Sequel Theory! And it is delicious...

Though it's been dubious from the beginning, unused material can't be considered to affect the canon. Otherwise Unit 01 would be all crumbly and have male genitalia during Near Third Impact.

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**Sailor Star Dust** · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:17 pm Post subject:

Perhaps Khara cut out that shot because the wanted to go another direction with how they blood reached the moon/flooded the earth? Or they somehow found it, uh, unimportant. _ ("Trolling" is finding its way far too easily into descriptions nowadays...)

Thanks anyway Reicchan, very interesting stuff!

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**Reichu** · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 3:20 pm Post subject:

NAveryW wrote:

Though it's been dubious from the beginning, unused material can't be considered to affect the canon. Otherwise Unit 01 would be all crumbly and have male genitalia during Near Third Impact.

Comparing the final storyboard directly to concept design drafts isn't really valid, except in the really general "it didn't make it into the final product" kind of way.

The excised cut is interesting since it flat-out shows something that is hinted at anyway (we already know 2I made the seas red, and Maya compares Sachiel's suicide puddle to 2I, therefore......), albeit blithely ignored by so very many.

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COACH · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:07 pm Post subject:

I think the current sequel theory says NME's Second Impact = NGE's Third Impact, though. _

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EvangelionFan · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:11 pm Post subject:

COACH wrote:

I think the current sequel theory says NME's Second Impact = NGE's Third Impact, though. _

It can't be, because of Misato's flashback footage.

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COACH · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:19 pm Post subject:

Yeah, it doesn't make much sense, but I don't think this evidence is really going to convince anybody. Obviously they'd just say that everybody's had their memories altered or whatever.

But anyway, the reason people think that is because we see a black moon during NME's Second Impact. So more EoE-ish elements in the movie would just convince them even further, I suppose.

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Azathoth · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:20 pm Post subject:

But it isn't a Black Moon. It isn't even a concrete object.

lol sequel theory

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EvangelionFan · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:24 pm Post subject:

COACH wrote:

But anyway, the reason people think that is because we see a black moon during NME's Second Impact.

Regardless, Reichu's translation -

Reichu wrote:

The Earth turning red
Blood* spouts from the South Pole
The blood spreads out into a ring

The dissipated blood stains the Moon.
The splash/spray flies up.

*Literally "stage/fake blood", assuming that's what 血のり means here.

- shows that Khara approached the flashback sequence with the intent of explaining 1.xx's EoE references as part of a new continuity, i.e., not a sequel.

Edit: Said scene could have been scrapped for any number of reasons, and in my opinion 2.xx does fine without it.

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COACH · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 6:26 pm Post subject:

Looks kinda like the black moon, to me. But still, lol sequel theory.

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Reichu wrote:

Just found something pretty cool in one of the 2.0 storyboard books (which are part of the CRC, I guess).

Do these books give a a complete breakdown of who storyboarded the different parts of the film? Or at least a general idea? 2.0 had a very large number of storyboard artists (10 or so) which is very unusual for a film. This collaborative approach seems similar to the Anno/Tsurumaki productions that followed Eva but so far the interviews haven't revealed much about the work process except that Higuchi was surprised at how different his storyboard was from the final result re: Asuka.

**Reichu** · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:40 pm Post subject:

COACH wrote:

Looks kinda like the black moon, to me.

It's a "black hole" (kuroi ana) that appears as a point over the South Pole and visibly gets bigger.

(Compare to this.)

...I really need to add this crap to the Wiki's 2I page already.

@Noriko: The storyboard books don't credit the individual artists.

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COACH · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:14 pm Post subject:

Interesting, thanks for the .gif. I guess that sequel theory image that originated on /a/ needs to be corrected. Hell, maybe you should make an anti-sequel theory image with some of this information. :p

Is the term "black hole" from the storyboards? That's great ammo to debunk some of this crap.

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**Reichu** · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:19 pm Post subject:

COACH wrote:

Hell, maybe you should make an anti-sequel theory image with some of this information. :p

Given the horrific memetic persistence of those images, it might not be a bad idea...

Quote:

Is the term "black hole" from the storyboards?

Yep. (Original is 黒い穴)

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This guarantees me that Rebuild is not a sequel. Thank you.

COACH · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:36 pm Post subject:

Reichu wrote:

Given the horrific memetic persistence of those images, it might not be a bad idea...

Indeed. A lot of that stuff on the current iteration of the image is pretty easy to debunk if the NME-2I = NGE-3I thing in the toilet. (But this is probably a bit off-topic.) (Never mind, there was a split!)

Reichu wrote:

Yep. (Original is 黒い穴)

No relation to a plain ol' ブラックホール, I take it. (That might be a liiiiittle bad for the Earth.

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penguintruth · Posted: Wed Mar 16, 2011 11:49 pm Post subject:

I never really bought into the "sequel" thing, anyway. I've always thought the things pointed to as evidence were simply nods to the TV series, or else intended to be explained at a later time.

COACH · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:03 am Post subject:

The arguments for looked pretty decent back when 1.0 was the only movie out, but it's looking more and more unlikely as time goes on. The only things I still find strange are Kaworu's mysterious lines, but it's been suggested that NME Shinji knew him as a child or something. I bet Anno be trollin'. (Or maybe he has no idea people are interpreting things this way? Does sequel theory even exist in Japanese fandom?)

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penguintruth · Posted: Thu Mar 17, 2011 1:31 am Post subject:

People always accuse Anno of "trolling", but I don't he's ever intentionally done so.

Okay, so maybe a tiny bit in EoE. Just a tiny bit.