Oz picked corruption and redemption as its main theme
cramergamer picked acceptance as its main theme
I picked love and sacrifice for love as its main theme.
2chan also had a discussion of its main theme but of course there is no consensus or conclusion. I think all are right -- it is just how you interpret which is more MAIN
toe mash wrote:
There are some good scenes but I was just hoping they'd pull off something truly unexpected and ballsy. Having a character sacrificing itself and somehow everything working out is annoying ENDING. And I can't believe that someone would say that westerner audiences focus too much on plot.. PMMM had a great plot so far so why wouldn't we want something to wrap it up that makes sense given the info we've received up till that point?
Yeah, I am one of those who said westerners focus too much on plot, and I will repeat it again here, with the addition that westerners want too much of something unexpected, out of the line, surprising, or mindfucking. It is not to say that Japanese do not have their share of viewers who want wacky endings (or just simply BAD END) but the "first among all" status westerners put on the "plot" thing is way overdone IMHO. And the tendency to extol an anime just because it delivers a mindfucking ending (or its reverse - struck down one anime just because it did not give an unusual ending that HE would say "fuck yes" and like) is much stronger among western fans -- apparently the idea is "hey, anime is weird stuff, right? So try me! See if I'd give a fuck" (no, toe mash, I am not talking specifically about you here... but looking at things on a more general level)
toe mash wrote:
Still great series, 9/10 from me, but (even though I wish I could)
I can't call it a masterpiece or whatever.
Since you give it a 9 I am fine with your gripes above
To be honest, I think Ep.10 is the best episode in the series and Ep.12 is an ending that will divide people, but I give it credit for providing a clear focus on its main themes, wrapping up everything in a neat way, and (most importantly) striking a balance between giving a best end (many fans want the whole cast come back to fight and beat Walpurgis Night) and a bad end (everyone dies). Hence the "less-than-best good end". My only reservation is that by giving Madoka such a transcending god-like elevation, it may get too detached and faraway for fans to identify with. And I also question if there is a need to include historical figures as mahou shoujo.
toe mash wrote:
Fuck, why can't more anime be like Katanagatari
and have the best rogering ending ever? God damn that was one satisfying ending that managed to really make you appreciate the whole show more.
Well, that ending is the ending in the novel. I guess it just means that you love certain type of writing (and how it ends) more than others. I don't think we could conclude much about what an anime can do for its ending from that anime. It is not as if they had a lot of freedom to change the original ending.
This is interesting stuff:
From left to right
Madoka, Homura, Sayaka, Mami, Kyouko, QB
The real Homura in Ep.11 ?
Ma..!! M..M..Ma...Ma..Madoka came to my place??He..heee..hee..
There is such delicious thing? Hee...
EDIT -- just noticed that this PMMM thread finally surpassed the "what anime you are watching" thread in number of views. (47842 vs 47764)
lol PMMM got more interests than all anime combined?
EDIT 2 -
Looks like Evangelion's animation director has some harsh words for Madoka's staff.http://yaraon.blog109.fc2.com/blog-entry-1649.html
Then there's clarification:
Quote:Has Madoka surpassed Evangelion? Well that's not too bad.
It would be troublesome if a relic of the past remains at the top forever (refering to Evangelion)
I do have one thing to say to the staff, however
Do no confuse the quality of the show and the quality of your actual merits
So keep on focusing on what you do next, okay?
(so what he's probably saying is the show itself was good, but it was not because of the staff. Since he is the photography director I am sure he is referring to the technical aspects of the show )
It's not as hostile and you make it to be
Hmm... translation is a bit different form how I understand from the original Japanese. He is not saying that the show itself is good, but he was saying that the staff got more praises than they deserved -- so it is indeed a bit hostile!!
Also if he was praising the show's technical aspects, he would have to praise the staff as well, because he was referring to "staff who made this show" which should include those who worked on the technical side too.
The original Japanese is this:
Here is my translation:Madoka Magika surpassed Eva? Isn't it something?
It would be bad if a relic from the past stays on top forever lol
But if I am to say a word to the staff who made this, it would be
"Do not confuse the fact that the work was praised at a level above the quality of the staff as things like it is the quality of the staff itself.
Just keep going and try hard to improve..." I guess?
The guy who wrote that is Junni Suzuki,
Eva TV - animation director ep.1,5,7,15,23 key animation ep.9,20, 24,26
Eva TV director cut - director ep.21, animation director ep.21, 23, key animation ep.23
Rebuild 1.0 - chief animation director, key animation
Rebulld 2.0 - design works, animation director, key animation