Favorite/Least Favorite Angel and Why

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Postby Reichu » Sat Feb 14, 2009 9:14 am

Bawww, so much Sandalphon hate. What kind of world do we live in, where people can gang up on an innocent mutant Anomalocaris that makes baby noises?

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Postby Formless One » Sat Feb 14, 2009 3:44 pm

Hrrmmmm... Its kinda hard for me to choose. In general I don't tend to pick favorites, and by the same token I don't generally pick least favorites either. Its like picking your least favorite child, you know? They were all so unique, and after being saturated by High Fantasy and gaming standbys the Angels were a breath of fresh air with a truly different aesthetic and abilities. But I suppose I can try...

By all means, I have absolutely nothing against some of the popular ones to hate. Sandalphon may not seem as threatening as say Zerul, but it isn't supposed to be. The drama of that fight comes from the implausible but Cool backdrop (inside a volcano). Sandalphon itself is a pretty awesome nod to just how weird some of the creatures that have evolved on Earth in reality are. It always reminded me of the kinds of creatures that still inhabit the deep oceans, even if it was based on a fossil. Matarael is a cool design, unique even among the angels; people like to bash it because it did very little in the plot and didn't get a spectacular death. Boo hoo, take it up with the writers. The angel is still cool if you take it by itself. And don't no one bash Lelliel, ya hear? Arael has nothing over this bad girl! The first angel to communicate (via mindfuck) with a human, and it uses weird theoretical physics concepts as its power? Too awesome for words. Maybe I'm just a geek for this kind of stuff.

Actually, there is one angel that has always disappointed me: Shamshel. Even before it got its facelift for Rebuild, its just kinda boring and cliche. I mean, they just got finished destroying one Godzilla wannabe, did they have to do something so similar so soon? It doesn't have any abilities worth noting, it looks funky, and overall its scene could best be described as any boss fight from name-your-favorite-video-game-here. LAME!
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Postby NemZ » Sat Feb 14, 2009 4:27 pm

How people can hate on Sandaphon when it's basically a Ghagiel with arms, creepy sucker mouth, and crazy awesome environmental adaptations is beyond me.
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Postby Tsachoul » Sun Feb 15, 2009 12:03 am

Matarael and Sandaphon.

Matarael because the only reason it posed any threat whatsoever was that the power was out. If the power was on, all those missile turrets and tanks would finally have their moment of glory.

Sandaphon because as has already been mentioned, it was a silly premise. Molten rock is does not behave or look like murky red water.
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Postby Formless One » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:43 pm

Matarael because the only reason it posed any threat whatsoever was that the power was out. If the power was on, all those missile turrets and tanks would finally have their moment of glory.

Everyone assumes that just because it died easily seems to mean it was weak. I wonder why...

I can think of at least two reasons this assumption is flawed: 1) it might have needed to lower its AT field to spew acid all over the place 2) it wasn't expecting to be shot at because there is nothing indicating that it knew of the armed Eva's aiming to kill it down there in the dark. While there is no evidence to suggest that it is powerful, there is equally little evidence to suggest that it is the wimp people take it to be.
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Postby BEsERk EVA01 » Sun Feb 15, 2009 11:50 pm

Ramiel, because it was so persistent in the series I felt like kicking it in the A/S.
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Postby Xeroko » Mon Feb 16, 2009 12:40 am

Matarael, even though the episode was pretty good.
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Postby SAWgunner » Mon Feb 16, 2009 4:13 pm

Tsachoul wrote:Sandaphon because as has already been mentioned, it was a silly premise. Molten rock is does not behave or look like murky red water.


How does molten rock behave? I always imagined that it would be similar to wet concrete; too thick and heavy to move around in and opaque, so you can't see through it. In other words, physically impossible to fight in.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Mon Feb 16, 2009 5:28 pm

SAWgunner wrote:How does molten rock behave?


Depends on the type of rock -- granitic lava is very viscous, but basaltic will flow smoothly from an eruption. The wikipedia entry for the relevant volcano suggests a composition tending slightly towards basaltic. Allowing for the fact that viscous effects scale inversely with lengths, such a lava would likely feel thicker than water, but not totally stiff for an Eva -- perhaps more like glycerine.
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Postby Vegeta 20XX » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:34 pm

BEsERk EVA01 wrote:Ramiel, because it was so persistent in the series I felt like kicking it in the A/S.


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Anyway, I pick....Sahaquiel and Armisael. Sahaquiel because she just floats here, and dies fairly easily. And Armisael killed Rei. There you go.

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Postby SAWgunner » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:45 pm

Vegeta 20XX wrote: And Armisael killed Rei. There you go.

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Yeah, but Rei's death was beautiful and epic, so that actually gives points to Armisael. And it's not like there aren't a bagillion more Rei's to replace her.

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Postby Vegeta 20XX » Mon Feb 16, 2009 10:49 pm

Until the next episode, when Ritsuko kills them all.
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Postby Mr.Sexy » Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:32 am

Okay this an easy one:

for me Kaworu and Armisael mainly cause Kaworu would have been cooler if he had some sort of "Angel Form". Instead of just his regular human form. and Armisael it's so basic and uninteresting. Both apperance and aesthic wise.

And i also hate Sandalphon so much it's even above the level of hate and more like dispise. Mainly because of it being in lava making it so they had to ruin my favorite Eva. Unit 02 by putting that GODDAMED! D TYPE ARMOR on it. Thus forever ruining that episode for me.
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Postby slothen » Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:05 pm

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Postby Mr.Sexy » Thu Mar 12, 2009 12:29 am

My two are Sachiel & Shamshell.
Mainly cause iv'e always thought that sachiel looks the most angel like (in my opinion) and Shamshell because frankly, What other giant penis monster can hover?
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Postby LIGHTFIRELT » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:30 pm

I never pictured Sachiel that way...

And frankly I'm not particuarily fond of any of the angels except for the 18th angel (Hint: uniqueness.)

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Postby LIGHTFIRELT » Sat Mar 14, 2009 5:55 pm

Kind of a juvenile topic name but anyways: Armisael. A little repetitive and not much to deem as menancing but I guess the hidden beauty of it is its deceptively unintimidating look.

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Postby Radish » Sat Mar 21, 2009 8:24 pm

Israfel. Not the Angel itself so much as its episode, I guess. The plan, training, execution, all of it - do not make sense. How does spending every hour eating, breathing, sleeping, and playing a giant game of Simon together for a week teach two people to spontaneously and continuously make perfectly synergistic (and symmetrical!) combat decisions provided they're listening to the same music? There are some pre-existing ideas that could explain it ("synchronization" is hardly new to the show's vocabulary), but no one acts as if any such "higher" things are involved, and passed this episode the would-be-incredibly-useful-in-every-battle-ever ability of the pilots to synch with each other is NEVER USED OR EVEN ACKNOWLEDGED AGAIN. Ass. Pull.

I feel conflicted about Armisael. It kills Rei, but that death (possibly combined with some subconscious recollection of the revelation Armisael brought) seems to break the cycle of her loyalty to Gendo, which is good. I'm certainly a bit irked by Armisael's unexplained nigh-indestructability, though.

Fazmotron wrote:I found Leliel to be one of the most interesting Angels, along with it having the best death scene in the series.
Well, Leliel's defeat is a bit shifty, in that it kind of just happens, and remains completely unexplained even when it defies the understanding the viewer was given of the Angel's nature ("Wasn't that thing supposed to be its shadow?" ve might say). This is all deliberate, of course, to foster awe in the unstoppable will of Yui-sama, but it could be taking the tactic too far for some people. None that I've met, but still; they could exist.

Formless One wrote:1) it might have needed to lower its AT field to spew acid all over the place
Actually, the Children (specifically Asuka) neutralize Matarael's AT Field as part of Asuka's plan: "Defense stays here, neutralizes the AT-field and also protects Offense from Angel's solvent liquid."
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Postby Reichu » Sat Mar 21, 2009 9:07 pm

Radish wrote:I feel conflicted about Armisael. It kills Rei

Isn't it... the other way around?

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Postby Radish » Sun Mar 22, 2009 6:41 am

It bears significant responsibility for the death of Rei as a result of threatening actions taken against NERV forces (namely herself and Shinji) that compelled her to activate her Eva's self-destruct in order to end its menace.

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