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Postby Xard » Wed Dec 15, 2010 2:53 pm

I'm sure many people here remember this hentai doujin parody by Yoshiyuki Sadamoto:

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(for those wondering WTF is going on Nadia's taking a dump but due to her vegetarianism it's not the most pleasant task in the world)

This has been mentioned & posted before on this forum too (though I can't remember where) so this isn't exactly new find. But I don't remember people wondering where did this one shot come from. Neither did I untill I accidentally happened to stumble upon this piece of information some days ago:

It was published in Doujin magazine Chosen Ame, run by Anno's long time friend and famous mangaka on his own right, Kenichi Sonoda (Gunsmith Cats)

So I did a little googling for the magazine:

Chosen Ame is an H dōjinshi series published by famed mangaka Kenichi Sonoda and his dōjinshi circle Ganso Sonoda Ya. Chosen Ame takes its name from the family business in Kumamoto prefecture, making "Korean candy". The series has recently been renamed Megaton Punch. The Chosen Ame series typically follows a theme for each anthology, such as sports, kid shows, fairy tales, uniforms, '60s Gerry Anderson sci-fi shows, etc. What sets Chosen Ame apart from many dōjinshi titles is the level of talent it attracts to each dōjinshi, both in Japan and in the United States. Contributors to Chosen Ame have been Hideaki Anno, Adam Warren, Yoshiyuki Sadamoto, Tony Takezaki, Rick Mays, Robert DeJesus, Kenji Tsuruta and Fumio Iida, to name just a few.


This same info comes up in many places:

Bookrags
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Carl Horn has mentioned the same fact on this forum

Further information on Chosen Ame:

Themes

The following is the themes for each book in the Chosen Ame/Megaton Punch series.

* Chosen Ame: Robots and mecha girls
* Chosen Ame version 2.0: Magical girls
* Chosen Ame version 4.0: Japanese housewives
* Chosen Ame version 5.0: Uniforms
* Chosen Ame version 6.0: Fairy tales
* Chosen Ame version 7.0: High school
* Chosen Ame version 8.0: Sports manga
* Chosen Ame version 9.0: Japanese TV Commercials
* Chosen Ame version 10.0: Drinking and partying
* Chosen Ame version 11.0: Transformation
* Chosen Ame version 12.0: Villains
* Chosen Ame version 13.0: Go Nagai
* Chosen Ame version 14: Japanese kid shows
* Chosen Ame version 15: Creamy Lemon and other hentai OAVs.
* Chosen Ame version 16: Sunrise shows
* Chosen Ame version 17: Female schoolteachers
* Chosen Ame version 18: Princesses from anime and computer games
* Chosen Ame version 19: Female soldiers
* Chosen Ame version 20: Sports
* Megaton Punch No. 1: Female crew of the Space Battleship Yamato
* Megaton Punch No. 2: Resident Evil
* Megaton Punch No. 3: Kenichi Sonoda's characters
* Megaton Punch No. 4: Maids
* Megaton Punch No. 5: Emma
* Sonoken Doujin: Works that Kenichi Sonoda was involved in
* Koutekishu Shoujoka Megaton Punch: Videogame consoles
* Megaton Punch No. 7: Yawaraka Tank
* Megaton Punch No. 8: Shirley from the manga by Kaoru Mori
* Megaton Punch No. 9: Lucky Star



So, there you have it. Apparently Anno has been contributor to Hentai Dōjinshi back in the day.

So, thoughts? Feelings? Ideas?

Personally speaking I'd be VERY interested in getting my hands on whatever he has done, whether it is pure porn or some humorous troll like above contribution by Sadamoto. (I also doubt that's the only contribution by him). Carl might know more...?

Knowing Anno I'd put my money on him contributing to Vol. 1 about robots and mecha girls and vol. 13 about Go Nagai (for obvious reasons)

I think this is very telling (and perhaps shocking) example of how close the ties between "mainstream industry" and the Doujin scene are in Japan. It isn't that much of a taboo over there.

Erm, let the feast commence! ;)

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Postby NAveryW » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:21 pm

What an unfortunate time for V to be banned from the forum.
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Postby Xard » Wed Dec 15, 2010 3:28 pm

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:What an unfortunate time for V to be banned from the forum.


I beg your pardon? :lol:

Did he have some huge holy hatred towards doujins or what? I honestly don't remember, albeit this intuition feels correct...

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Postby DevRei17 » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:10 pm

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:What an unfortunate time for V to be banned from the forum.

He's on the ANN forums. He literally jumps on any thread related to Eva over there. Perhaps someone should post it...
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:55 pm

View Original PostNAveryW wrote:What an unfortunate time for V to be banned from the forum.

I was not around for this "V" character... but I am aware of his "Anno is the Holy and Righteous God of Anime" opinions and antics. I can see how this would flip his lid somewhat.

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Postby esselfortium » Wed Dec 15, 2010 4:55 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:I think this is very telling (and perhaps shocking) example of how close the ties between "mainstream industry" and the Doujin scene are in Japan. It isn't that much of a taboo over there.

You sure it isn't just very telling about Anno himself? :P

View Original PostXard wrote:I beg your pardon? :lol:

Did he [V] have some huge holy hatred towards doujins or what? I honestly don't remember, albeit this intuition feels correct...

Youuuuuuuuu might say that, yes. That's a way of putting it.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:08 pm

Interesting news.

I'd be so bold as to say (if this is true) that this REALLY puts a halt on all that "Anno made EoE as revenge" and "the hospital scene is a take that at otaku who fap to Asuka" B.S. that has spread over the years.
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Postby Defectron » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:54 pm

Interesting news.

I'd be so bold as to say (if this is true) that this REALLY puts a halt on all that "Anno made EoE as revenge" and "the hospital scene is a take that at otaku who fap to Asuka" B.S. that has spread over the years.


I wouldn't say that, just because you might dissaprove of something doesn't mean you might not indulge in it sometimes yourself. As they say people hate most what they see in themselves.
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Postby drinian » Wed Dec 15, 2010 7:56 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:I'd be so bold as to say (if this is true) that this REALLY puts a halt on all that "Anno made EoE as revenge" and "the hospital scene is a take that at otaku who fap to Asuka" B.S. that has spread over the years.

Well, there's always the self-hatred argument.

Does Anno have an easily recognizable art style like Sadamoto's?

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Postby NAveryW » Wed Dec 15, 2010 9:02 pm

View Original Postdrinian wrote:Well, there's always the self-hatred argument.
And a strong one it is.
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Postby Xard » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:58 am

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:You sure it isn't just very telling about Anno himself? :P


Hah, that too but this isn't at all weird in the industry overall. Masamune Shirow (Ghost in the Shell, Appleseed) has done a lot erotic art and stilll does. See his entire Galgrease collections for starters. Other example would be Kouta Hirano (Hellsing). A lot of GAINAX folk being involved in the doujin scene (in all ages and 18+ variants) should go without saying and is a simple fact. I think they even released hentai game based on Gunbuster's characters in early 90s (you can see footage from it in Otaku no Video IIRC). Ito Noiji, the original character designer and artist for titles like Haruhi and Shakugan no Shana...well, she also does shitloads of eroge artwork, including sex scenes.

Even Kiyohiko Azuma (Azumanga Daioh, Yotsuba&!) had his career start in his own H Doujinshi circle (which incidentally did NGE Doujin(s) among others). Hell, even Yoshitoshi ABe has one Adult Only title in his huuuge Doujin catalogue.

I've seen Anno getting key animation credits on one Cream Lemon episode too (I think it was ep 5) and Akiyuki Shinbo has directed bizarre hentai through the last decade.

As the screenwriter Dai Sato said:

He also did not criticize fan service, because, just as many Japanese film directors came from the “pink movie” industry, many animators are coming from a background in erotic material (doujinshi, eroge or ero-anime/manga). Sexual desire is part of the creative drive.


Anno's H Doujin work is obviously very small scale stuff and nothing too exceptional.

View Original Postesselfortium wrote:Youuuuuuuuu might say that, yes. That's a way of putting it.


Hmm, didn't he have a burning hatred for fanfiction overall...

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:
I'd be so bold as to say (if this is true) that this REALLY puts a halt on all that -- "the hospital scene is a take that at otaku who fap to Asuka" B.S. that has spread over the years.


What!?

On the contrary, it pretty much establishes this even more strongly than before (as if this was needed).


Anyway, I managed to find many juicy tidbits of information but I can't post them 'till I get back home later. I hope someone can reply to this topic so I can post again later today...

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Postby toe mash » Thu Dec 16, 2010 5:04 am

So... For some reason I always thought it'd be hilarious if it were true.. Err, any idea who directed that NGE hentai? :lol:

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:42 am

View Original Posttoe mash wrote:Err, any idea who directed that NGE hentai? :lol:


Nope, but it's crap. There are (sort of) better ones out there, including H-doujin.

Xard: Eh, I like the idea that the fap scene would more of self-hatred directed at Anno instead of hatred at otaku or whatever. (But there's no reason the scene can't be hatred at both himself and otaku, yes.) Or, a boring explanation is there's no hatred on either side involved and Anno simply came up with that scene for more tension with the Asuka/Shinji [s]relationship[/s] downward spiral.
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Postby InstrumentalityOne » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:55 am

View Original Posttoe mash wrote:Err, any idea who directed that NGE hentai? :lol:


You mean the Human Salvation project one?

I love dem chinese subs.

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Postby Electric Sachiel » Sun Dec 19, 2010 3:43 am

View Original PostXard wrote:I'm sure many people here remember this hentai doujin parody by Yoshiyuki Sadamoto:

[URL=http://img72.imageshack.us/i/962fe43d7491140ccec8e74.jpg/]Image[/URL]

(for those wondering WTF is going on Nadia's taking a dump but due to her vegetarianism it's not the most pleasant task in the world)


Call me a bit dense but come again? Vegetarianism causes diarrhea? Or is that constipation? And WTF? Why did she have to run away from the bathroom in shame, with the captain giving an all knowing expression?

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Postby BiQ » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:14 am

View Original PostElectric Sachiel wrote:Call me a bit dense but come again? Vegetarianism causes diarrhea? Or is that constipation? And WTF? Why did she have to run away from the bathroom in shame, with the captain giving an all knowing expression?


Ok, this is off-topic but I'm gonna say it regardless:
Five years of vegan diet says no, especially not constipation. Only if she doesn't drink enough water, that might be an issue, but that goes for meat-eaters, too. I have hard time believing a vegetarian diet would be lacking in fibers. (well, I you only eat junk food I guess it's possible but...) Diarrhea would be more likely but even that would mean her body is out of funk for some other reason.

Oh, and that ITT: we debate the realism of human digestive system portrayed in hentai doujinshi.
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Postby Killer Bee » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:41 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:I'm sure many people here remember this hentai doujin parody by Yoshiyuki Sadamoto:

SPOILER: Show
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Sadamoto's wit always manages to surprise me. Even in the little notes in the back of Der Mond he manages to poke fun at his own work. I dunno, it just sort of makes him feel more like 'one of us,' you know?

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Postby Noriko is my wife » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:34 pm

View Original PostXard wrote:I've seen Anno getting key animation credits on one Cream Lemon episode too

Pop Chaser is a classic. There's probably more action sequences than sex scenes in it.

Anyway, here are some things I found after looking for Sonoda here http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/

http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/1643/Paraselene/
Sailor Moon dojinshi by circle Uroboros. Authors include Sonoda, H.ANNO, Ditama Bow (Mahoromatic) etc
Before finishing this post I saw a thread on /m/ that probably describes this
There is a Sailor Moon doujin that has a page by Anno. It's a comic about how Ami-chan's ignoring everything while reading and then she steps in dog shit.
Sounds amazing.

http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/128343/Chousen-Ame/
I guess this is the first volume. Authors: H.ANNO, Sadamoto Yoshiyuki, Tsurumaki Kazuya etc

Then there are these with his real name and not H.ANNO (like he signs illustrations).

http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/138004/
Monthly NERVTYPE by circle おきらく堂. 18+
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/132231/
Giant Robo dojinshi by Anno, Hiroyuki Utatane (Evangelion Anima illustrator) and Chicha Yokoyama who seems to be the main author of this series of Ginrei books. (see http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/browse/author/489/Yokoyama-Chicha/) It's 18+ and it's from 2002. I think there's some significance to Anno using his real name instead of his signature and that he did not draw Giant Robo porn in 2002 but he's not above taking part in publishing an ero-dojinshi at least.

some other things that might be of interest

http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/1710/Shin-Seiki-Evangelibon/
Sadamoto Yoshiyuki, Tsurumaki Kazuya, Yamashita Ikuto, Suezen (Fumio Iida) etc
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/84125/Chousen-Ame-Ver.02/
contributions from Tsurumaki and Agezen (another pen-name for Iida/Suezen)
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/333865/Chousen-Ame-Ver.04/
Tsurumaki was a regular contributor to these I guess.
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/340760/Chousen-Ame-Ver.13/
The Nagai issue. It doesn't seem to have any Gainax contributions but then who knows what lurks behind names like Dynamite Probody.
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/332288/
18+ Sailor Moon book. Contributions from Tsurumaki and Hiroyuki Utatane

and while I'm at it here's more Gainax dojinshi (not porn)
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/343657/girl-meets-boy.../
a scan of this is pretty easy to find
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/browse/author/37805/
Imaishi publishes his own KA books
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/browse/author/46657/
so does Sushio
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/book/323178/
Chikashi Kubota
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/browse/author/5275/
Satoshi Yamaguchi
http://doujinshi.mugimugi.org/browse/author/5637/
Kazuhiro Takamura. OK this is porn.

Speaking of Anno and dojinshi. He was the editor of "Friends of Char's Counterattack" which had contributions from and interviews with industry people like Ikuhara, Izubuchi, Oshii, and Tomino himself. Lots of information here for those that read Japanese http://www.style.fm/as/05_column/365/365_455.shtml

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Postby Xard » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:36 pm

Thanks for saving me a ton of TROUBLE, that was basically stuff I was going to post :hahaha:

Though I was going to give links to few of them I managed to find, and post covers in this thread. Oh well

And as /m/ quote well illustrates just because Doujin was marked as Adult Only does not mean the material contributed by Anno himself was erotic in nature. We'd need to pore over these doujins (have fun trying to find most of these if you don't live in Japan guys) to see what exactly he gets credited for.

edit: looks like you forgot this

Authors:

Hideaki Anno 庵野秀明
Tsuruta Kenji 鶴田謙二

It's 18+ title anyway and from 1992. Practically 99% of Anno's contributions come from early 90s (Ginrei book being exception)

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Postby Noriko is my wife » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:55 pm

I ignored it because my post was long enough and the title says it's a Kenji Tsuruta book anyway

edit: I don't think I can bump this thread since I was the last person posting but here's something I wanted to share and the best we will get until someone buys those chousen ame issues.
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