AEF, I'll check out that thread ASAP. But even so, it was quite obvious that Seele felt they could use Shogouki without needing Adam. So even if Sho was some kind of half-breed/bastard of Adam and Lillith, it must've been enough for their purposes. Also, after just reading the first post in ...

Oops, Ornette I missed your post after mine. Well, this clears up a lot of things if Seele never needed Adam at all. It also explains why they didn't bring in the Harpies and launch the assault on Nerv previously (they wanted to get control of Shogouki without a fuss, and sent Kawaru to do i...

Maybe something else that I thought about after reading this line: The Eva are made of the same body as I am. Because I am born from Adam as well. I could merge with them, if only they didn't have souls. Unit 02's soul has shut itself away for now. What if after he got his body back he was i...

I like everything you had to say, the only thing I'm going to nitpick about is that it's Kaworu, NOT "Kaworu". :) Oops. Guess all my analytical skills can't hide some of my Eva n00bness. I'm not really sure how Kaworu's meeting up Shinji would be part of any scheme...

Ok, I might've solved some of the mystery behind 24. I've been thinking about it ever since this thread popped up, and I think I finally have a theory that accounts for a lot. Seele wants to initiate and control 3I, but they don't have Lillith or Adam's body. What to do? Well, they d...

Ok, something I thought of while in the shower (what's up with getting your best ideas in places where you can't use them at the time? :x ): I don't think the idea that 3I can only be initiated through Adam's/Lilith's bodies/souls is quite right. We all know Seele had the...

That's actually one of my favorite episodes. a lot going on under the surface there. I don't think Yui was trying to screw with Shinji's mind, I think she was trying to understand and help him understand what he wanted and guide him toward what he needed. I don't think (prepared ...

I guess this makes sense that there has to be a "joining" (Adam's/Lilith's body/soul) to set off 3I, but then this brings up more questions about the other ways 3I could've been started such as the Angels meeting up with Lilith/Adam. Doesn't the idea of Angels being...

I've thought several times about learning Japanese. Not just because of Anime, but because of a general love of Japanese cinema (I'm a huge Akira Kurosawa fan) as well. I've picked up words here and there, but I couldn't form a coherent sentence.

The Eva Monkey wrote:
I think it's quite awesome. How else are Shinji and Kaworu supposed to make sweet sweet love?

That thought is equally terrifying.

Reichu wrote:
There Is No Capitalization In Japanese.

I get that, I mean that when they translated and capitalized it, they weren't supposed to.

After reading through the Platinum translations of 24', I'm starting to think more and more that Seele's plan for Kaworu had something to do with Gendo. The first thing Seele says in the episode is: ??: Nerv, the organization formed to be Seele's executive branch... ??: It was create...

That image is truly terrifying...

One thing I'm confused about in NGE is why when Sho takes the S2 engine into herself to become "a god", 3I didn't occur. I was under the impression 3I would occur when two of the fruits (FoL/FoK) were joined, so what's the deal with nothing happening when Sho takes in t...

I always thought Kaworu's "love" for Shinji was on a deeper level as a human. He says himself he doesn't understand the Lilim, so perhaps he understands Shinji because he isn't as drunk with power and his own ideals like so many of the other Lilim Kaworu's met (Seele, m...

So are you saying the translation may have gotten the capitalization wrong, and that the "Hope" 04 was referring to was just meant to be emphasized but not as a proper noun? This seems kinda fishy to me, especially Kaworu's reply, which seems to show that he knows what they're talk...

@ Eva Yojimbo: Welcome! ^_^ I like what you have to say about the swing, but personally I don't know what else it can mean besides the input I already gave. btw, we see that swing in the P3II sand castle scene, the "do you want to become one with me?" woman's voices scene, and the...

Hehe, I just watched NGE for the first time a month ago and have seen in 3 times since. I think it's the only show that has ever effected me like this. Some parts in it are just so stunningly powerful and beautiful that they send chills all through me. The effect it has on me is like sending me ...

Ok, ok, ok. First, I want to say this thread has my head spinning. The Kaworu/Seele/2I relationship I think was the most confusing aspect of NGE. Glad to know I'm not alone in being completely dumbfounded by Ep. 24. Some thoughts after reading through this thread before they escape my fragile mi...

Yay! My first post on this Eva forum! Okay, the train has been covered a lot, and I like a lot of the ideas about its representation (running away, Shinji's personal hell, and his earliest memory of pain all fits very nicely). The swing I think is far more perplexing because it only show...