Using the spear wouldn't really make any sense unless Seele really, really fucked with its programming.

Mega tsunamis don't behave like normal tsunamis. They're always giant waves. Here are a couple of videos on the topic you might find interesting/horrifying [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fzm49fUSCPk [url]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtIJETdGDQQ Video quality sucks but meh A nuclear ...

They certainly found her quickly enough for her to not have died of dehydration or hunger, or even blood loss (remember that her large scar originated from this incident). Her quick recovery is quite suspicious, unless somebody was also planning to be there for the recovery of the Adam embr...

Well, okay, clearly the question wasn't clear enough. Would it make a difference if Adam's soul was implanted in an Eva? Basically what actual importance is the Kaworu vessel in this scenario.

It needs to be considered in its full context. "Adam, our mother. Must those who were born from Adam return to Adam, even at the cost of destroying humanity?" It was always my impression that Kaworu was implicitly referring to the Angels here, as they've been understood to be the bein...

Was it ever said how soon after the event they found Misato? I legitimately can't remember.

True but as evident by the Evas "born from Adam" doesn't exclude offsite cloning. I don't agree with the idea for the reasons above but I don't think that particular quote is very useful.

Why would they even be trying to make Kaworu in another location though? All indications are 2I didn't exactly go according to plan so there's no reason for them to be planning for the 2I we did get. Not to mention who's going to be trying to make clones when huge tsunamis are leveling c...

What exactly is the CI saying that wasn't hinted at in the series between the "salvaged" soul and the birth date?

That was a very different context, though. They were talking about Shinji's perception of himself, not his becoming a shapeshifter. I said I didn't subscribe to it. I'm only mentioning it because it's an explicit reference as to why the Angels took the forms they did. Adam and Lilit...

Again, doesn't follow. The Angels chose their forms; Adam and Lilith did not. This is no more remarkable than Yui, Kyoko, Touji's mom, or the souls of the MPE winding up in Evas. By your logic this is proof that Lilin can change their forms and do anything the Angels can do, which is clearl...

I don't see how the one follows from the other. Adam didn't choose the form of Kaworu, he got it (presumably) because that's the form of the donor in the CE (just as Rei was the form of Yui). That says nothing about what Adam, the SoL, could do on a whim. Doesn't mat...

She didn't do it because she didn't care. She only cared about Shinji. I'm contending this was poor judgement on her part. That if she really wanted to she could have put a halt to the whole thing with very little effort.

As I recall the former happened after we saw Gendo bitten in half by Unit 01, so it's pretty clear something odd was going on with that scene. As to the latter, of course there is: children can do all sorts of things their parents can't do, and the Angels choose their own forms. Adam's ...

The Rei II manifestation picked up Gendo's glasses and there is no reason with Adam that she can't duplicate what the other Angels did.

And I don't know why you think the manifestations are connected to the AATF, she could still do it at the end of the movie after she "died".

She can make manifestations that can physically interact with the world. Pop one up in front of all the members of Seele and hit them with Areal mind probe beams till they're reduced to gibbering wrecks. Or toss them all in a Leliel dimension. Her options are quite large, tis not my fault she ne...

I'm still not at all clear on what those options were, particularly given the circumstances at the time (and note my claim is that that was Yui's goal, not Rei's; Rei just wanted to make Shinji happy and hadn't the foggiest idea how to do it). Not listening to Shinji at all ...

You're trying to make sense of something they only had a rough outline of because it wasn't actually important to anything. It's not going to work and it's really, really getting off topic. My point was it's simply another example that the Seeds are very free to make their own ch...

There was a time, way back when, that we entertained the idea that the S2 was simply something generated by a soul that had the FoL and it was actually a metaphysical thing. The CI forced us to reevaluate that as the S2 being the literal physical manifestation of the FoL. And Yui technically did eat...

Kaworu: What are you...? ???: This far in time, I have no name. No shape. Just the existence that is life itself. Your soul ate too much of the Fruit of Life, and seems to have forgotten about ancient matters... Kaworu: You know me...? ???: Because our race was of the same home world. Kaworu: The F...