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by Monk Ed
Tue Jul 22, 2008 5:23 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: A.T. Field Technicalities
Replies: 229
Views: 41701

It's the matter. It's the only common factor between them. I know. We agree that PWM is what enables voodoo. Where we differ primarily is on the properties and components of exactly what PWM is. It's not a theory, it's fact. Those beings never had an ATF to shape them until soul-sal...
by Monk Ed
Tue Jul 22, 2008 12:38 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: A.T. Field Technicalities
Replies: 229
Views: 41701

You said according to your theory souls don't linger after death. I say this is wrong cause Rei wasn't paying these bodies a vist for no reason. Huh? I apologize if I ever seemed to, but no. I'm perfectly aware that a soul hangs around after death. Ok look, this has nothing to do with w...
by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 21, 2008 11:34 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: A.T. Field Technicalities
Replies: 229
Views: 41701

No you don't cause Rei went to their dead bodies to collect something and the only thing she was collecting was souls. This doesn't contradict anything I've said. Yes it does. RITSUKO: Correct. We do know the Angel is composed of a type of matter characterized by both particulate and wa...
by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:25 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: A.T. Field Technicalities
Replies: 229
Views: 41701

So why don't people tang immediately upon death? Cause their souls are still in their bodies hence why Rei went to collect them from the dead people in NERV HQ or Anno didn't think it through. Take your pick but I think it's a combo of the 2. By all rights a severed limb should tang ins...
by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 21, 2008 10:04 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Pill Popping Ayanami
Replies: 136
Views: 46197

It was grafted on his hand. And at any rate, this seems to be a moot point given....whatever this discussion's about. This discussion is now about Asuka shyly undressing herself in your avatar. No. This discussion is about Rei popping pills. Do we ever see two separate shots of the same dresser...
by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:54 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: A.T. Field Technicalities
Replies: 229
Views: 41701

So why don't people tang immediately upon death? Guess I chose a wrong time to get poetic. I mean "life" as in "the essence of life", not necessarily being alive. The substrate that holds organic matter into a configuration that makes life even possible. My macromei knows no...
by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:38 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Pill Popping Ayanami
Replies: 136
Views: 46197

Strangulation for no reason? That sounds in line. I've never read the manga, but everything I've been told and shown about it has given me the impression that Sadamoto was somehow out to 'one-up' the original by erring on the side of the pointlessly hardcore. (Manga spoilers)...
by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 21, 2008 7:55 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: A.T. Field Technicalities
Replies: 229
Views: 41701

Man this thread was hard to read through. Deep detailed discussion going on, in between tangents. But I wanted to make sure I'm not repeating anyone with this suggestion, a theory in development: We know souls create ATFs. ATFs hold a life-form's shape... even microorganisms's (ep21&...
by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:04 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Pill Popping Ayanami
Replies: 136
Views: 46197

Why bare hands, and what's the fuckup? That Sadamoto forgot he established it's a shot and not pills that keep Rei together?
by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 21, 2008 3:00 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Ritsuko's level of secret knowledge
Replies: 10
Views: 3965

Re: Ritsuko's level of secret knowledge

Less notably, in ep20 she refers to Eva-01 as "not just an Adam copy, because it's imbued with a human will" (the subtitles omit but you can clearly hear her say "Adamu copy"), although it's to Misato and lying to her is nothing new. They didn't omit anything...
by Monk Ed
Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:03 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Ritsuko's level of secret knowledge
Replies: 10
Views: 3965

I already know that interpretation, Zuggy. The problem is that while each part of it makes sense on its own, as a whole it's aimless. Each part doesn't build properly on the last towards its point (justification to destroy dummies), according to what I know of Japanese composition. B...
by Monk Ed
Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:33 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Misato and Shinji (Again)
Replies: 171
Views: 53317

@Monk Ed Yes -- which is why I say that the support is primarily extra-textual. NemZ argues well the case when reading the text alone , as a good post-modernist should; and I agree with his PoV. Did they say she was making a very conscious, overt offer, or was it a straddling-a-fine-line kind of th...
by Monk Ed
Sun Jul 20, 2008 4:53 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Misato and Shinji (Again)
Replies: 171
Views: 53317

Hang on a minute. When you say Newtype, do you mean there was an interview or something where someone from the production staff said Misato was definitely offering Shinji sex?
by Monk Ed
Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:22 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Ritsuko's level of secret knowledge
Replies: 10
Views: 3965

I think Ritsuko pretty much knows as much as Fuyutsuki does; there is the overriding question of "how much about Nerv's ultimate goal actually being Gendo's private drive to get back with Yui" did other staff members know about. Still, in public when she goes "that just can&#...
by Monk Ed
Sat Jul 19, 2008 3:54 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Ritsuko's level of secret knowledge
Replies: 10
Views: 3965

Ritsuko's level of secret knowledge

(Edit: removed a factual error. Also, I've since cut down my thesis from "Ritsuko might not have known about Lilith" to "Ritsuko might not have known that Rei is made from Lilith", but I leave this post otherwise intact for the sake of record.) Continuing this discuss...
by Monk Ed
Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:33 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Life Support and Eva
Replies: 56
Views: 14427

Speaking of the episode, i had always thought that the sea of dirac was the result of a failed merge between the S2 engine and unit 04. Analogous to some sort of organ rejection in organ transplants. That is one hell of an organ rejection. According to that episode, the real reason was never found ...
by Monk Ed
Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:52 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Eligibility for HIP / Nature of Souls
Replies: 386
Views: 61082

C'mon, she's second highest up person around and knows all the dirty details and secrets. You can't except she doesn't know about Lilith Fuyutsuki is the one who's the second highest, and clearly the only one who knows the fullest extent of the plan, and the only one Gendo appea...
by Monk Ed
Fri Jul 18, 2008 4:38 am
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Misato and Shinji (Again)
Replies: 171
Views: 53317

That's pretty much what I meant. (...) I stick with "she just wants a hug". Man. Wish I'd come up with all that. I'd forgotten what sort of binary thinking geek-speculation-mode tends to put me in. But that was just downright sensible. Now I'm convinced back the ot...
by Monk Ed
Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:44 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Life Support and Eva
Replies: 56
Views: 14427

do the plugsuits have systems for waste 'evacuation?' if so i could imagine an pilot could live within an s2 equipped eva nearly indefinitely. Or maybe they wouldn't need to. If the LCL is supposed to be analogous to placental fluid, and being in the entry plug to being in the womb, the...
by Monk Ed
Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:11 pm
Forum: Evangelion TV Series + EoE Discussion
Topic: Life Support and Eva
Replies: 56
Views: 14427

Reichu wrote:These details weren't worked out in the show, so you basically get to "make shit up".

As a fic writer myself, this is how I think of these kinds of things.

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