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by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Mon Mar 28, 2005 5:41 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Ikari Gendou: The Motives Behind the Man Behind the Motives
Replies: 87
Views: 14899

Yes though they had become frustrated with him before that. In the begining of eps 15 Fuyutsuki: Second and Third Lake Ashinoko. I don't want any more of them. Yesterday, A complaint came from Chairman Keel, directly to me. He was very upset. Towards the end he hinted at your dismissal. Gendou: ...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Mon Mar 28, 2005 4:21 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Ikari Gendou: The Motives Behind the Man Behind the Motives
Replies: 87
Views: 14899

But why would they tell him they don't want to ride things out in EVA unless they had found out that that is what Gendo wants? Another question might be when did they become privy to Gendou's plans. I don;t think they would have confided in him for so long if they though he was going to bet...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Mon Mar 28, 2005 3:49 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: How and when was Rei created ?
Replies: 36
Views: 12472

A selection of quotes from the other thread for us to ponder over. Does anyone have any other good quotes concerning Rei's genesis? Both from eps 23. Fuyutsuki : Rei... Fuyutsuki : The product of my despair, and yet the object of your hope. Fuyutsuki : I guess it's impossible to forget her. ...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Sun Mar 27, 2005 7:15 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Yui Ikari was it an accident she was in unit one?
Replies: 40
Views: 9070

If Yui wanted to join with the thing so Shinji could pilot their are some questions raised. Wouldn't it have been better for the plan if got training over time like Asuka? If Yui intened this stuff from the start why is he the 3rd child, and not the first? I think the reason for this is because...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Sun Mar 27, 2005 6:15 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Yui Ikari was it an accident she was in unit one?
Replies: 40
Views: 9070

But, what was the objective of salvage? We know by those liner notes that Eva-01 and Lilith were joined by the legs during the contact experiment. We also know that Rei was 5 years when Naoko killed her, putting the time of her birth around the time of the contact experiment. We also know that Rei ...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:57 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Ikari Gendou: The Motives Behind the Man Behind the Motives
Replies: 87
Views: 14899

The Instrumentality project wasn't even proposed to Seele by gendo until after Yui's death/accident/whatever so I always gussed it was just to build the eva's and beat the angels. That's not certain. Remember Fuyutsuki's reaction when Gendo tells him that he's going ahead wi...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Sun Mar 27, 2005 5:13 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Yui Ikari was it an accident she was in unit one?
Replies: 40
Views: 9070

Don't you think there's a relation between the salvage process and Rei's creation? I don't know where you'd come up with this? Ritsuko says that the salvage operation was a failure in eps 22. Ritsuko: There was an accident before I joined Nerv. I heard that my mother was there. ...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Sat Mar 26, 2005 9:23 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Yui Ikari was it an accident she was in unit one?
Replies: 40
Views: 9070

I just really feel that Gendou was fully aware of Yui's plans. It's either that or she decided to remain in eva without telling him anything. And that just doesn't seem likely. On the matter of Shinji. Yes, why would Yui leave her beloved son in the hands of a man like Gendou? I think th...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Sat Mar 26, 2005 5:07 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Yui Ikari was it an accident she was in unit one?
Replies: 40
Views: 9070

Then why did he enter a depression when the salvage operation failed? I think the idea is that Yui couldn't tell Gendo her true plans because he would never have let her carry them out. I'd disagree with this. I think Gendou was fully aware of Yui's intentions. From eps 24 Gendou: The f...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Sat Mar 26, 2005 4:24 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Ikari Gendou: The Motives Behind the Man Behind the Motives
Replies: 87
Views: 14899

The argument is over wheither the "rules" so to speak would be diffrent with Gendo incharge. Yes I think that DatDude is right on this point. In a sense, this thread is about "the rules" of Third Impact, and how the factions attempted to manipulate them. I do think that things w...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Sat Mar 26, 2005 2:09 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Yui Ikari was it an accident she was in unit one?
Replies: 40
Views: 9070

The character of Yui always strikes me as someone who is calm and always in control. Bad choice of word for what I'm trying to say here, but when you think back on all her comments, she is never in doubt. All her actions seem so deliberate. I think she knew what would happen, and chose to remain...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Fri Mar 25, 2005 12:16 pm
Forum: Evangelion Chit-Chat
Topic: The most disturbing moment in Evangelion
Replies: 915
Views: 186321

For me, the most disturbing moment had to be when the Rei's came for the operators in the Nerv control room. This was definitely one of the more powerful scenes in the series. The terror, the insights .... and of course that lovely water balloon popping sound as each in turn met their grisly fate.
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Fri Mar 25, 2005 11:40 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Ikari Gendou: The Motives Behind the Man Behind the Motives
Replies: 87
Views: 14899

And Shinji wasn't exactly "born" to pilot an Eva. That ability of his is rather dependent on the fact that his mom's soul is inside one; it's not innate or anything. "It's not the sort of thing that comes naturally to me." I don't mean that he was born to be ...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Thu Mar 24, 2005 7:34 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Ikari Gendou: The Motives Behind the Man Behind the Motives
Replies: 87
Views: 14899

HERE is a thread on the A.N. forum where Reichu demonstrates that Yui did so at this time because she suspects that Seele knows she is actually working against them, and are arranging an "accident" for her. I don't think that fear for her own life was the primary motivator behind Yui&...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:43 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Ikari Gendou: The Motives Behind the Man Behind the Motives
Replies: 87
Views: 14899

Was Gendou plan with Yui to simply stop third impact though? Perhaps to stop SEELE's version of it, but I think he and Yui were planning some form of third impact. Recall the scene (eps 24) with Gendou standing before Unit One, where we can see that the angel embryo has been merged with ...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Thu Mar 24, 2005 4:12 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Kaworu KNEW it wasn't Adam on the cross
Replies: 53
Views: 12355

Just to add to the confusion, and an old topic... Perhaps one could look again at Kaoru's actions in the light of Gendou and Fuyutsuki's aside in the moments before the evas' decent into Terminal Dogma. F: Is he trying to unite with Unit Two? G: Or lead to its destruction? Kaoru also men...
by ObsessiveMathsFreak
Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:08 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Ikari Gendou: The Motives Behind the Man Behind the Motives
Replies: 87
Views: 14899

Ikari Gendou: The Motives Behind the Man Behind the Motives

Hello all. I thought I'd dive right in with a topic and hopefully start a ripping good discussion. I have been pondering over one of the most intriuging characters in Evangelion, Ikari Gendou. Clearly to ask just about anything would be going over well trodden ground, but I'll risk it. What ...

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