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by StrokeMeGoat
Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question
Replies: 17
Views: 682

Re: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question

I think your passive/active interpretation works as well. A good example of this is when he is confronting Gendo in episode 19. That's actually the primarily example that stuck out to me when forming my interpretation. It's also worth noting that this is supported by its repetition in Rebuild when ...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Lilith and the MP Evas' "Fusion"
Replies: 11
Views: 563

Re: Lilith and the MP Evas' "Fusion"

For me this moment has never been troublesome; it's Seele assuming control over Lilith-Adam, to ensure that she'll cooperate with their plan. Eh, I don't think SEELE wound up planning to carry out Third Impact and HIP utilizing Lilith or the Lance of Longinus. They themselves exclaim in pleasant su...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question
Replies: 17
Views: 682

Re: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question

Tuser Eva Yojimbo (who hasn't posted here in a long time) made a great observation, suggesting that the open hand represents life (Shinji's hand covered in blood in episode 1 and covered in..something else in EoE) and the closed hand is death (all the strangulations that happen). The clenching is t...
by StrokeMeGoat
Thu May 24, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question
Replies: 17
Views: 682

Re: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question

I feel like you're reading into this too much. In the bus scene where the kids laugh at him, the whole fist clenching/unclenching thing is more than likely just a physical gesture animated in as a method of visually representing that he feels more powerful or capable. I've seen this same fist clench...
by StrokeMeGoat
Thu May 10, 2018 7:45 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shamshel's Gender
Replies: 27
Views: 1857

Re: Shamshel's Gender

Earth is a planet. Nature is a figurative concept. Adam and Lilith are human beings in a work about human beings. Poor analogy. Second of all, Adam and Lilith are not their own species. Seeds of Life are engineered beings that exist outside the species paradigm. In analytical contexts like this, &q...
by StrokeMeGoat
Wed May 09, 2018 8:11 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shamshel's Gender
Replies: 27
Views: 1857

Re: Shamshel's Gender

I find most everyone's arguments about the possible biological sexes of the Angels are far too deep in head canon for me to be convinced they're really correct. Without a doubt, especially so with Shamshel, the sexual imagery in design is fairly transparent. What evidence is there that suggests the ...
by StrokeMeGoat
Tue May 08, 2018 10:23 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Do You Think Rei Was Un-Tanged Shortly After "Kimochi Warui"?
Replies: 15
Views: 1405

Re: Do You Think Rei Was Un-Tanged Shortly After "Kimochi Warui"?

In keeping with a more Christian interpretation, Rei herself was Lilith being housed in flesh. Lilith is the parallel to God the Father, herself being God the Mother. Rei as an incarnation of Lilith in Lilin form is the parallel to Jesus being an incarnation of God in human form, God the Son/the Son...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:31 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: EoE Final scene explained and connected to EoTV G.W.F Hegel.
Replies: 17
Views: 38774

Re: EoE Final scene explained and connected to EoTV G.W.F Hegel.

I agree with you. I also believe that, while it maybe have been Hegel's ideas that influenced the ending scene, even if that wasn't the case, Hegel's Master/Slave essay would still appear as though it had influence on that scene anyway for a pretty simple reason. His essay and ideas are well thought...
by StrokeMeGoat
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Lilith and Adam parallel Cain and Abel
Replies: 5
Views: 565

Re: Lilith and Adam parallel Cain and Abel

I think there are multiple different combinations of people and beings in NGE that form the Holy Trinity, I've mentioned so a few times in other posts. I'll try finding and linking them sometime when I've got more time to/I'm less lazy. In any case, I could see how Adam and Lilith parallel Cain and ...
by StrokeMeGoat
Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:36 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: "Above the starry firmament God judges, as we judged" Meaning?
Replies: 10
Views: 1089

Re: "Above the starry firmament God judges, as we judged" Meaning?

I'm inclined to think that it's trying to say that god isn't as powerful as everyone thinks, because of the "God's in his heaven all is right in the world" quote, which I think is supposed to mean that we don't need God, that he should stay in his heaven. Not sure if you're aware, but the...
by StrokeMeGoat
Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Why were there only 3 impacts ?
Replies: 25
Views: 1804

Re: Why were there only 3 impacts ?

I never thought of that. I always thought the red wispy things that flee from the body when it's reverted to LCL (easiest seen with Keel in EoE) were souls, and LCL was just a bunch of soulless primordial goop. You see a bunch of red wispy bits swirling the Black Moon, raising from Earth, and going...
by StrokeMeGoat
Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Why were there only 3 impacts ?
Replies: 25
Views: 1804

Re: Why were there only 3 impacts ?

Adam's Embryo lacks a soul when Gendo fuses it to his hand, presumably even after Kaworu's death. It's a mystery as to where Adam/Kaworu's soul, or indeed, any soul goes after death in the series, but we do at least have one lead to go off of: LCL. Both Shinji, Yui, and in EOE, the whole of humanity...
by StrokeMeGoat
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Are Adam and Lilith "dead dead"?
Replies: 12
Views: 1041

Re: Are Adam and Lilith "dead dead"?

God, as man has known the concept, has had a 3 stage evolution that is reflected in Adam, Kaworu, Lilith, Rei, and their union and the death of their physical body. The story of Jesus' Transcendence and man's ultimate salvation through Him is played out on a literal level with the two Seeds of Life,...
by StrokeMeGoat
Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:23 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Why were there only 3 impacts ?
Replies: 25
Views: 1804

Re: Why were there only 3 impacts ?

Three is a number with great symbolic significance, especially in Christianity and the various psychoanalytic theories out there. The Holy Trinity and more generally the triad itself appears all over the place in NGE, perhaps most noticeably in the case of many of them during EOE. The three Magi bei...
by StrokeMeGoat
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:55 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Imaginary Audience and the AT Field
Replies: 9
Views: 1268

Re: Imaginary Audience and the AT Field

The meaning of the AT Field seems to be rather multi-faceted in the series. On the most fundamental level, the AT Field, to me, is merely that which separates an individual from their surrounding existence and their reality. The AT Field represents the boundaries we construct in an effort to contras...
by StrokeMeGoat
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:25 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: What is "Tabris"?
Replies: 10
Views: 1172

Re: What is "Tabris"?

Satan is really the only close analog of Tabris in Judeo-Christian scripture, seemingly possessing free will (especially considering he fell) despite the fact that angels in both Judaism and Christianity are merely messengers from God that, at least in the Kabbalah, are a series of more and less con...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sat Feb 24, 2018 10:05 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shinji's last words in Ep. 21
Replies: 4
Views: 930

Re: Shinji's last words in Ep. 21

I think what he says here is pretty straight forward, so I doubt there are any kinds of hidden meanings or anything like that. Shinji, was just making a statement about himself to rationalize the fact he didn't go to console Misato--instead hiding at the first sight of her after peaking around the c...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sat Jan 20, 2018 5:28 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: 3 Aspects - woman, mother, and scientist in EOE
Replies: 14
Views: 935

Re: 3 Aspects - woman, mother, and scientist in EOE

Can't agree more on this sentiment. I'm pretty intrigued by the Trinity angle not just in relation to Eva, but our species as a whole. Even in dualistic spiritual movements I've noticed a hidden third aspect usually in the form of harmony/balance. Hell even quantum mechanics plays around with the t...
by StrokeMeGoat
Fri Jan 19, 2018 2:52 pm
Forum: Evangelion Chit-Chat
Topic: Who would win, Adam or Lilith
Replies: 6
Views: 350

Re: Who would win, Adam or Lilith

In every single canon, Lilith and her progenitors have been the victors over Adam I'm not sure I'd say that Lilith and the Lilin were victorious over Adam and her progeny. I mean, yeah, the Angels were all defeated, and the Lilin were ultimately given the option to be reborn if they possessed the w...
by StrokeMeGoat
Thu Jan 18, 2018 11:39 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: 3 Aspects - woman, mother, and scientist in EOE
Replies: 14
Views: 935

Re: 3 Aspects - woman, mother, and scientist in EOE

I have actually started a massive write up on this myself, the main difference being that I'm focusing on the Holy Trinity and trinities in general. They show up everywhere in the series. The ones already mentioned of course, and Rei I, Rei II, Rei III ; Rei, Kaworu, Yui; Adam, Lilith, Unit-01 w/S2 ...

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