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by StrokeMeGoat
Thu Jul 05, 2018 1:00 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shamshel's Gender
Replies: 29
Views: 2503

Re: Shamshel's Gender

Earth is a planet. Nature is a figurative concept. Adam and Lilith are human beings in a work about human beings. Poor analogy. I know this post is old, but after rereading the thread, I rather confidently feel you're incorrect regarding my analogy being poor, in the implication that nature being a...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sun Jul 01, 2018 5:28 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: NGE: Episode 05, EVA-00 accident
Replies: 6
Views: 335

Re: NGE: Episode 05, EVA-00 accident

Gendou says そうか viz. sou ka. Oh, hmm. Well, I suppose what I said about it being a basic acknowledgement still works. Now that I think about it though, I think naruhodo and sou ka are typically used in some what distinct contexts from one another despite having overlap in meaning. Then again, I rea...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sun Jul 01, 2018 12:27 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: NGE: Episode 05, EVA-00 accident
Replies: 6
Views: 335

Re: NGE: Episode 05, EVA-00 accident

I can't read the (what I'm assuming is) Hiragana that Lavinius posted and the link unfortunately doesn't display the romanized spelling of the word, but I'm rather sure it's the Japanese word "naruhodo", which is typically translated very simply as "I see". That said, if you're c...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sun Jul 01, 2018 11:59 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Asuka and Prometheus
Replies: 2
Views: 222

Re: Asuka and Prometheus

Eh, I guess I can see some parallels there, but the story of Prometheus and Pandora's Box seems more like an expression of man's realization that consciousness, knowledge, awareness, and enlightenment leads to eternal toil, struggle, and suffering. The story of Genesis itself is an example of a refl...
by StrokeMeGoat
Tue Jun 26, 2018 6:50 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Was Yui nearly as bad as Gendo?
Replies: 10
Views: 479

Re: Was Yui nearly as bad as Gendo?

More enlightened parents seek to prepare their children to handle whatever the world might throw at them. They do not selfishly attempt to modify the world for the convenience of their children Indeed. It is generally wisest to seek primarily not to change the world itself to be easier to handle or...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sun Jun 03, 2018 2:47 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question
Replies: 17
Views: 936

Re: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question

I think your passive/active interpretation works as well. A good example of this is when he is confronting Gendo in episode 19. That's actually the primarily example that stuck out to me when forming my interpretation. It's also worth noting that this is supported by its repetition in Rebuild when ...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sat Jun 02, 2018 4:41 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Lilith and the MP Evas' "Fusion"
Replies: 11
Views: 760

Re: Lilith and the MP Evas' "Fusion"

For me this moment has never been troublesome; it's Seele assuming control over Lilith-Adam, to ensure that she'll cooperate with their plan. Eh, I don't think SEELE wound up planning to carry out Third Impact and HIP utilizing Lilith or the Lance of Longinus. They themselves exclaim in pleasant su...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sat Jun 02, 2018 3:25 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question
Replies: 17
Views: 936

Re: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question

Tuser Eva Yojimbo (who hasn't posted here in a long time) made a great observation, suggesting that the open hand represents life (Shinji's hand covered in blood in episode 1 and covered in..something else in EoE) and the closed hand is death (all the strangulations that happen). The clenching is t...
by StrokeMeGoat
Thu May 24, 2018 1:42 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question
Replies: 17
Views: 936

Re: Shinji Clenching His Fist Question

I feel like you're reading into this too much. In the bus scene where the kids laugh at him, the whole fist clenching/unclenching thing is more than likely just a physical gesture animated in as a method of visually representing that he feels more powerful or capable. I've seen this same fist clench...
by StrokeMeGoat
Thu May 10, 2018 7:45 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shamshel's Gender
Replies: 29
Views: 2503

Re: Shamshel's Gender

Earth is a planet. Nature is a figurative concept. Adam and Lilith are human beings in a work about human beings. Poor analogy. Second of all, Adam and Lilith are not their own species. Seeds of Life are engineered beings that exist outside the species paradigm. In analytical contexts like this, &q...
by StrokeMeGoat
Wed May 09, 2018 8:11 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shamshel's Gender
Replies: 29
Views: 2503

Re: Shamshel's Gender

I find most everyone's arguments about the possible biological sexes of the Angels are far too deep in head canon for me to be convinced they're really correct. Without a doubt, especially so with Shamshel, the sexual imagery in design is fairly transparent. What evidence is there that suggests the ...
by StrokeMeGoat
Tue May 08, 2018 10:23 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Do You Think Rei Was Un-Tanged Shortly After "Kimochi Warui"?
Replies: 15
Views: 1546

Re: Do You Think Rei Was Un-Tanged Shortly After "Kimochi Warui"?

In keeping with a more Christian interpretation, Rei herself was Lilith being housed in flesh. Lilith is the parallel to God the Father, herself being God the Mother. Rei as an incarnation of Lilith in Lilin form is the parallel to Jesus being an incarnation of God in human form, God the Son/the Son...
by StrokeMeGoat
Sat Apr 21, 2018 5:31 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: EoE Final scene explained and connected to EoTV G.W.F Hegel.
Replies: 17
Views: 39778

Re: EoE Final scene explained and connected to EoTV G.W.F Hegel.

I agree with you. I also believe that, while it maybe have been Hegel's ideas that influenced the ending scene, even if that wasn't the case, Hegel's Master/Slave essay would still appear as though it had influence on that scene anyway for a pretty simple reason. His essay and ideas are well thought...
by StrokeMeGoat
Thu Apr 05, 2018 9:49 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Lilith and Adam parallel Cain and Abel
Replies: 5
Views: 614

Re: Lilith and Adam parallel Cain and Abel

I think there are multiple different combinations of people and beings in NGE that form the Holy Trinity, I've mentioned so a few times in other posts. I'll try finding and linking them sometime when I've got more time to/I'm less lazy. In any case, I could see how Adam and Lilith parallel Cain and ...
by StrokeMeGoat
Thu Apr 05, 2018 8:36 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: "Above the starry firmament God judges, as we judged" Meaning?
Replies: 10
Views: 1159

Re: "Above the starry firmament God judges, as we judged" Meaning?

I'm inclined to think that it's trying to say that god isn't as powerful as everyone thinks, because of the "God's in his heaven all is right in the world" quote, which I think is supposed to mean that we don't need God, that he should stay in his heaven. Not sure if you're aware, but the...
by StrokeMeGoat
Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:49 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Why were there only 3 impacts ?
Replies: 25
Views: 1882

Re: Why were there only 3 impacts ?

I never thought of that. I always thought the red wispy things that flee from the body when it's reverted to LCL (easiest seen with Keel in EoE) were souls, and LCL was just a bunch of soulless primordial goop. You see a bunch of red wispy bits swirling the Black Moon, raising from Earth, and going...
by StrokeMeGoat
Mon Mar 26, 2018 12:06 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Why were there only 3 impacts ?
Replies: 25
Views: 1882

Re: Why were there only 3 impacts ?

Adam's Embryo lacks a soul when Gendo fuses it to his hand, presumably even after Kaworu's death. It's a mystery as to where Adam/Kaworu's soul, or indeed, any soul goes after death in the series, but we do at least have one lead to go off of: LCL. Both Shinji, Yui, and in EOE, the whole of humanity...
by StrokeMeGoat
Mon Mar 26, 2018 11:43 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Are Adam and Lilith "dead dead"?
Replies: 12
Views: 1081

Re: Are Adam and Lilith "dead dead"?

God, as man has known the concept, has had a 3 stage evolution that is reflected in Adam, Kaworu, Lilith, Rei, and their union and the death of their physical body. The story of Jesus' Transcendence and man's ultimate salvation through Him is played out on a literal level with the two Seeds of Life,...
by StrokeMeGoat
Mon Mar 26, 2018 2:23 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Why were there only 3 impacts ?
Replies: 25
Views: 1882

Re: Why were there only 3 impacts ?

Three is a number with great symbolic significance, especially in Christianity and the various psychoanalytic theories out there. The Holy Trinity and more generally the triad itself appears all over the place in NGE, perhaps most noticeably in the case of many of them during EOE. The three Magi bei...
by StrokeMeGoat
Wed Mar 07, 2018 11:55 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Imaginary Audience and the AT Field
Replies: 9
Views: 1376

Re: Imaginary Audience and the AT Field

The meaning of the AT Field seems to be rather multi-faceted in the series. On the most fundamental level, the AT Field, to me, is merely that which separates an individual from their surrounding existence and their reality. The AT Field represents the boundaries we construct in an effort to contras...

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