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by eldomtom2
Tue Aug 20, 2019 4:19 pm
Forum: Evangelion 3.0+1.0 [SPOILERS]
Topic: The Vatican Treaty is still in effect.
Replies: 12
Views: 3710

Re: The Vatican Treaty is still in effect.

That assumes this is more than a throwaway line.
by eldomtom2
Wed Jul 31, 2019 5:43 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

When you're doing the sort of "callbacks" that Rebuild has done, it goes from "hah, neat" to "what are you trying to say?".
by eldomtom2
Wed Jul 31, 2019 3:05 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

"They're callbacks and references" only goes so far, especially when they're callbacks to the original version of a work.
by eldomtom2
Tue Jul 30, 2019 6:42 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Adams, Children, and the Nature of the Cycle
Replies: 73
Views: 18757

Re: Adams, Children, and the Nature of the Cycle

Lore is not what people are talking about when they say that the Rebuilds lack depth.
by eldomtom2
Tue Jul 30, 2019 1:39 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

Further thoughts: The unique spelling of Evangelion is only for the first three Rebuilds' titles , right? So it has to be referring to Evangelion the work, not Evangelion the mecha, as some non-time loop theories suggest. Also, the English titles as seen in the Rebuilds' "commercial breaks"...
by eldomtom2
Mon Jul 29, 2019 9:51 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

It make no reference at all to the series, which is what you have been trying to link a time loop to. And in any case, there are other explanations which have been proposed and discussed. The spelling revert, the repeat sign, and "+1.0" are all hinting at something , and I can't see what ...
by eldomtom2
Mon Jul 29, 2019 2:15 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

You say many, yet so far, I only recall the one beginning/ending shot you've referred to. Care to mention all the others, and why a time loop is what they're pointing towards? Kaworu's lines. Those massive chalk outlines. The blood stain on the Moon. Probably more that I'm forgetting. And lest we f...
by eldomtom2
Sun Jul 28, 2019 6:01 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

I have to keep repeating this same basic point - Watsonian explanations are not Doylist explanations. You have to explain why so many hints that seem to be pointing to a time loop more than anything else were put in if the actual reason was something completely different.
by eldomtom2
Sun Jul 28, 2019 12:09 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

There are narrative explanations, perhaps, but again that doesn't explain why they're there in the first place.
by eldomtom2
Sun Jul 28, 2019 5:45 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

None of the explanations explain why the "evidence" is there though except for a brief line about "homages".
by eldomtom2
Sun Jul 28, 2019 1:09 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

You misunderstand me. In my eyes the Rebuilds involving a time loop would be them going back and tainting the original.
by eldomtom2
Sat Jul 27, 2019 5:57 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

I’d prefer it if you didn’t cast aspersions on my motivations. I don’t want a time loop, but to me everything points to it.
by eldomtom2
Sat Jul 27, 2019 8:00 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

Probably to quickly get across to the audience that something is very very wrong with this setting if the oceans are red They could have done that in an exact recreation of the original opening. How about because they're different stories ? A fact which is more and more apparent as the films procee...
by eldomtom2
Sat Jul 27, 2019 3:59 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

Something being similar to a previous version of a story is not necessarily an allusion; it can can perfectly well be simply just that - similar. And the reason may be no more than that the same artist often continues using some of the same techniques - maybe even with a deliberate wink! No, the al...
by eldomtom2
Fri Jul 26, 2019 4:20 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

What is the point of creating explicit allusions to the original series if they're setting up unrelated plot points? Answer this instead of making vague comments about "the power of personal perspective".
by eldomtom2
Fri Jul 26, 2019 1:24 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

Where is the false dichotomy? What reason is there to have all these "oo-look-at-this-thing-that's-different-from-the-original-series" moments if not to hint at something beyond simple changes to the plot?
by eldomtom2
Fri Jul 26, 2019 12:49 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The idea of a timeloop

It may have a "lore" explanation, but that doesn't explain why they're there in the first place. Either Anno planned for a time loop and then scrapped the idea or the "lore" explanations are partially a red herring. And I don't want a time loop, in fact I want the Rebuilds to sta...
by eldomtom2
Thu Jul 25, 2019 4:25 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The Eva 3.0+1.0 Title

You don't start your reboot series with a duplicate of the first shot of the last scene of your last film just as an easter egg.
by eldomtom2
Thu Jul 25, 2019 12:22 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: The idea of a timeloop
Replies: 58
Views: 11418

Re: The Eva 3.0+1.0 Title

The time-loop theory is still the strongest to my mind. The series spends far too much time pointing at the differences from the original series for the answer just to be "it's a different series".
by eldomtom2
Sun Jul 14, 2019 8:04 am
Forum: Evangelion Chit-Chat
Topic: The mystery of why "complementation" was translated into English as "Instrumentality"
Replies: 7
Views: 1419

The mystery of why "complementation" was translated into English as "Instrumentality"

"Instrumentality was translated as "Complementation" in the Japanese versions of Cordwainer Smith's works, so "Complementation" in Evangelion (a deliberate reference) was back-translated into "Instrumentality" without taking into account the different meanings of ...

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