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by ACGT-Samael
Mon Jul 22, 2019 3:06 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Apostles?
Replies: 13
Views: 5314

Re: Apostles?

I can confirm the English dub on Netflix still refers to them as Angels, despite being overall much more literal (individual Pilots still being referred to as "the Xth Children" despite how awkward it sounds).
by ACGT-Samael
Mon Jul 22, 2019 12:58 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life
Replies: 274
Views: 112928

Re: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life

I'm not trying to push us into a position where we can't have an honest discussion, I'm just having a hard time reasoning out why the FAR would come into possession of the Fruit of Life and then go out of their way to not integrate it with the Fruit of Knowledge.
by ACGT-Samael
Mon Jul 22, 2019 11:34 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life
Replies: 274
Views: 112928

Re: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life

On the one hand, this is a more coherent argument for the "two-fruited FAR" than anything else I've seen in the thread. But, on the other, I need to point out that there's no evidence that the FoL is "genetic". Evas are cloned directly from Adam, and they don't have the S2 engin...
by ACGT-Samael
Sun Jul 21, 2019 9:35 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life
Replies: 274
Views: 112928

Re: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life

People see "god" in NGE being used to refer, in a specific context, to a being with both fruits, and the FAR are quote unquote "God", therefore they must have had both Fruits!! But here, it's made quite clear that they are only "God " from the perspective of the beings...
by ACGT-Samael
Sun Jul 21, 2019 3:27 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life
Replies: 274
Views: 112928

Re: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life

Why would they NOT apply the Fruit of Life on a species-wide level before this whole Seed shenanigans? That's pretty easy to address. Assuming that the FAR did not simply pop into existence, and had to evolve naturally, their forms would have been too fragile. The Fruit of Life is effectively a REA...
by ACGT-Samael
Sun Jul 21, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life
Replies: 274
Views: 112928

Re: NGE2: First Ancestral Race and Seeds of Life

To me, this simply creates piles of new and unnecessary questions. Where did that sapient mind come from? If you don't believe the FAR possessed physical limitations, then aren't you effectively saying that they weren't shaped by evolutionary pressures? A humanoid species that is both highly intell...
by ACGT-Samael
Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:47 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Eva Anatomy & Physiology: 2018 Edition
Replies: 88
Views: 18352

Re: Eva Anatomy & Physiology: 2018 Edition

I like it as a Doyleist explanation for why Eva-02 might look that way (even if the split-soul thing was reverse-engineered from the idea of giving an Eva four eyes). Watsonian-wise, it's rather weak, IMO. First, it doesn't address Eva-02's other oddities. The simplest and thus best explanation wou...
by ACGT-Samael
Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:37 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Is blood heavier than LCL?
Replies: 15
Views: 3128

Re: Is blood heavier than LCL?

Thanks for the clarification, I'm unsure if Lilith's womb is a portal to a cosmic womb, however. For the record, the use of the Black Moon as a womb just ties in with the motherhood and life symbolism that's a huge part of Evangelion. It's never established that Lilith has a literal biological womb...
by ACGT-Samael
Sat Mar 23, 2019 7:34 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Significance of the fans surrounding Kaji and Misato?
Replies: 6
Views: 2507

Re: Significance of the fans surrounding Kaji and Misato?

At the risk of being that guy... is it even necessary that fans have symbolism attached to them now? The fan in Misato's room has a perfectly valid reason to be there: it's perpetual summer and really, really hot. That's why she's often in such light clothing outside of work. It gets tied in with th...
by ACGT-Samael
Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:44 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Eva Anatomy & Physiology: 2018 Edition
Replies: 88
Views: 18352

Re: Eva Anatomy & Physiology: 2018 Edition

Something actually occurred to me about the four eyes thing. When we see Unit-01 still connected to Lilith, she's featureless, and doesn't seem to become the shape we recognise until post Contact Experiment. Meanwhile, Adam's progeny show us that AT Fields can manipulate physical form beyond the ins...
by ACGT-Samael
Wed Feb 13, 2019 1:49 pm
Forum: Evangelion Chit-Chat
Topic: How do I convince my stupid friend who won't watch end of eva because of the first scene
Replies: 13
Views: 2207

Re: How do I convince my stupid friend who won't watch end of eva because of the first scene

The harder you try to force somebody to do something the more they'll push back and the more they'll resent you. I don't think this is the best path to tread down.

Also I find people who judge their friends based on perceptions of their intelligence tend to overestimate their own.
by ACGT-Samael
Fri Jan 25, 2019 1:09 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Eva Anatomy & Physiology: 2018 Edition
Replies: 88
Views: 18352

Re: Eva Anatomy & Physiology: 2018 Edition

So I feel super duper dumb for not noticing sooner, but the Evas in the Graveyard clearly have artificial spinal columns, made of the same wires that form the arms. This would kind of suggest their entire central nervous system has been gutted out for the cybernetics needed to make Synchronisation w...
by ACGT-Samael
Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:57 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Post-3I Yui: Monument or Mother? Mk. II [Split]
Replies: 9
Views: 1176

Re: Post-3I Yui: Monument or Mother? Mk. II [Split]

You know, now that I think about it, this does make an increasingly amount of sense in the context of Yui's worldview. She's incredibly forward facing, with most of her dialogue relating to the future or the cosmic long term. Given how much she seems to believe in humanity as a whole, wanting to ens...
by ACGT-Samael
Fri Jan 25, 2019 12:22 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Post-3I Yui: Monument or Mother? Mk. II [Split]
Replies: 9
Views: 1176

Re: Favorite crazy Evangelion theories

The soul thing, if you take the interpretation of Yui choosing which souls she took. I suppose choosing the progeny of Adam makes sense, it's super unlikely a Seed was only equipped with 14 souls after all. But I feel like this is growing into its own thing and should be splintered into another thre...
by ACGT-Samael
Thu Jan 24, 2019 10:00 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Post-3I Yui: Monument or Mother? Mk. II [Split]
Replies: 9
Views: 1176

Re: Favorite crazy Evangelion theories

See I've always preferred the reading of the scenes het becoming a new Seed, and yet I see people decrying that interpretation as being fundamentally wrong, in so small part because that would mean she kept some of the souls instead of letting them return, which feels... kind of wrong.
by ACGT-Samael
Tue Jan 22, 2019 11:12 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Post-3I Yui: Monument or Mother? Mk. II [Split]
Replies: 9
Views: 1176

Post-3I Yui: Monument or Mother? Mk. II [Split]

The crosses don't represent souls. The little red dots do, and those expressly fell back to Earth. What the crosses represent is the Way to God, the desire for human transcendence, as voiced by Gendo in episode 21 while a shadow cross appeared ominously behind him. In EoE, the formation of these cr...
by ACGT-Samael
Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:22 am
Forum: Evangelion Chit-Chat
Topic: Favorite crazy Evangelion theories
Replies: 511
Views: 84938

Re: Favorite crazy Evangelion theories

3.0+1.0 will be literally a combo of Eva 3.0 and 1.0, one playing after the other. Stable time loops are cool yo. Anyway, this isn't a specific theory, but TV Tropes seems to interpret some of the scenes from NGE and End in odd ways. Notably, it interprets Asuka and Shinji on the beach at the end a...
by ACGT-Samael
Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:04 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Lilith and Yui's Contact Experiment, and Related Subjects
Replies: 22
Views: 5622

Re: Lilith and Yui's Contact Experiment, and Related Subjects

Going back to the topic of Yui, the fact she fully merged into Unit 1 while Kyoko did not intrigues me. Yui being a voluntary case explains her end, but I wonder if she can explain anything about Kyoko having her soul divided. Is that meant to mean she was of two minds on the ordeal?
by ACGT-Samael
Fri Jan 18, 2019 1:01 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The Tree of Life Significance
Replies: 23
Views: 5535

Re: The Tree of Life Significance

There are indeed still people who claim Evangelion is Christian propaganda. Those people are ridiculously wrong, but still. JHWH is generally considered otherworldly in the sense that He is an eternal entity, one without beginning and end, who is considered omniscient, omnipotent and omnipresent, an...
by ACGT-Samael
Tue Jan 15, 2019 1:50 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: The Tree of Life Significance
Replies: 23
Views: 5535

Re: The Tree of Life Significance

Clarke would be proud of this series for sure. That said, I definitely wouldn't call SEELE pseudo-Religious. The thing they're praising may not actually be a divine being of otherworldly origin (well, it is, but not in that sense) but they definitely act like the worst depiction of religion possible...

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