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by CaesarMagnus
Wed Dec 06, 2017 7:46 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

@xanderkh: Some people might like Shinji, while others might not see enough good in him. And the same goes for Asuka, Misato, Gendou, etc. The fact that I don’t appreciate Shinji at all doesn’t mean that there aren’t people that do like him. And of course, after 3I, neither all the people Shinji and...
by CaesarMagnus
Wed Dec 06, 2017 4:36 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

I think you explained it superbly, xanderkh, although I don’t really agree with the LAS-friendly Post-3I scenario, haha. That’s maybe the only thing I disagree with users like you, Chuckman or Bagheera. But, anyway, everyone have different tastes, I guess. It was a great analysis, in any case. Howev...
by CaesarMagnus
Tue Dec 05, 2017 6:56 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

Considering this is a show where a 27 year old woman made out with a 14 year old boy and promises sex afterwards in a manner that comes off as if she is being half sarcastic and half completely honest I think you may be applying your definition of "realistic" a bit too conveniently. The s...
by CaesarMagnus
Mon Dec 04, 2017 8:57 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

What truly boggles my mind is to hear people throwing words like “love” and “romance” blatantly ignoring that we’re talking about two traumatized children of 13 and 14 years old who are in the hormonal stage, who have severe intimacy issues, who desperately seek validation and understanding, who can...
by CaesarMagnus
Sun Dec 03, 2017 6:08 pm
Forum: Evangelion Chit-Chat
Topic: ITT: You wish fictional characters a Happy Birthday.
Replies: 589
Views: 73065

Re: ITT: You wish fictional characters a Happy Birthday.

Alles Gute zum Geburtstag , my beloved Asuka. I could use many words to describe how deep and sincere my appreciation for her is, and how much I relate to her and her tribulations. But it's no use writing a long eulogy here, when it can all be described by saying that she's the Crimson Empress of m...
by CaesarMagnus
Tue Nov 28, 2017 8:51 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

@FelipeFritschF: Thanks for your reply and nice to meet you. I hope you don’t mind that I mentioned you or that it didn’t bother you at all. Not posting assiduously doesn’t mean that what you say has not value, and I did find many of your posts to be extremely interesting when I read them. The reaso...
by CaesarMagnus
Sun Nov 26, 2017 8:07 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

They can always learn that and by the end of the story they know a great deal more about social actions than they did beforehand. There's no reason they can't continue to address this problem. As it is, they interact more freely with each other than they interact with anyone else. Shinji's is the o...
by CaesarMagnus
Sat Nov 25, 2017 5:22 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

But what did the lack of communication stem from? self-hatred Indeed, but to that you need to add the genuine immaturity of two pubescent teenagers with no knowledge of human interactions. They hate themselves, as we're shown very clearly, but they're also kids after all. Even if they were normal t...
by CaesarMagnus
Sat Nov 25, 2017 3:04 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

@synthmachine81: In situations like this, when someone claims that the fandom exaggerates when analyzing Asuka or Shinji or Misato comparing them to real people, I remember one funny response I read some time ago exploring the archives of EvaGeeks: “This is Evangelion, what did you expect?” . And, h...
by CaesarMagnus
Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:30 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

However, to say their relationship was consistently toxic is simply incorrect. Maybe this is another semantic disagreement we have. If not consistently , you might agree with me it was greatly or intensely toxic (if not mostly , but that's up to interpretation), which is evidenced by how terribly t...
by CaesarMagnus
Wed Nov 22, 2017 8:54 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

Are you seriously comparing masturbation by a 14yo boy with genocide or the Holocaust? May I ask where I said I was comparing them? It's not a comparison, but a Reductio ad absurdum , showing how such a logic would lead to very weird historical analysis. I said Holocaust as I could have mentioned a...
by CaesarMagnus
Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:31 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

Dude, shut the fuck up about my country and my fucking visits to the hospitals. I'm having a normal conversation, I never said to thank Shinji and you start accusing me of idiotic nonsense that I never wrote and you act like racist scum . Get off your fucking immaginary throne, you're have no right...
by CaesarMagnus
Wed Nov 22, 2017 7:19 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

It's not shipping, it's a fact. Shinji locked the room and he could have done ANYTHING to her, spanning from literally nothing to killing her. Compared to what Gendo did to Ritsuko he's almost a saint. Great, now you've trascended "Berserk Mode". Let's all thank Shinji for what he did, be...
by CaesarMagnus
Wed Nov 22, 2017 6:58 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

@Guy Nacks: Indeed, of course there’s a context of pressure and painful stress after Kaworu’s death that Shinji has to “release” somehow. But, as you said, it doesn’t excuse his action. I think it was Misato who said something like “hurting others is worse than hurting oneself”, and Shinji chose to ...
by CaesarMagnus
Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:33 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

If you can bring yourself to feel sympathy for Asuka despite all of her flaws, then you are perfectly able to do the same for Shinji. They're two sides of the same coin. Theoretically, you’re very right, and I would agree with that affirmation… but I don’t think it’s fully correct. They’re indeed t...
by CaesarMagnus
Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:30 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

I think going as far as to call him despicable is a bit harsh. Shinji does act selfishly at times and towards the end of the series as he and the other characters go down a large downward spiral there are moments where he could/should have acted where he didn't which are frustrating but consider ea...
by CaesarMagnus
Tue Nov 21, 2017 11:10 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

And yet i still like and sympathize with him, why? I hope it's not because you also paid a visit to a sedated friend in a hospital, haha. To be honest, when I first watched the series (just the series), being 14 years old, I saw Shinji as a kind of alter ego I could relate to very easily with. Some...
by CaesarMagnus
Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:41 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things
Replies: 87
Views: 2922

Re: Introduction, Toxicity of AsuShin and other things

Yes, that's the entire point of Shinji's charcter arc and the story of NGE as a whole. I think what Geometer wondered is whether it would be worth for Asuka and Shinji to force themselves into a relationship if they only keep making each other suffer once more. The caress is a hopeful symbol, but A...
by CaesarMagnus
Tue Nov 21, 2017 9:00 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: "I need you" - Who Said It to Who
Replies: 8
Views: 546

Re: "I need you" - Who Said It to Who

I wanted to add a couple of interesting quotes regarding these issues, but I was afraid of making my previous comment way too long. I've always liked these two explanations of Asuka and Shinji during the series and in the end. Was there "love"? Was Asuka "bitter" in the end? Sinc...
by CaesarMagnus
Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:55 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: "I need you" - Who Said It to Who
Replies: 8
Views: 546

Re: "I need you" - Who Said It to Who

I think we two agree on almost everything, Asuka’sBigBrother. At least on the essential. Maybe we use different semantics or see things on a subtly different way (you believe in hope, while I’m rather sceptical). But, in any case, many of our ideas seem to be coincidental. I apologize if I used a ha...

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