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by anonymaus
Sun Oct 22, 2017 2:23 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: C.T.1290 versus Asuka. Examining the good and bad.
Replies: 295
Views: 8556

Re: C.T.1290 versus Asuka. Examining the good and bad.

Mr. Tines#868332 wrote:the last we heard of her was "If I have to be with you I'd rather die."

Her instrumentality scenes were full of denial.
Her final act was to respawn at his side and caress his face. These are not the actions of somebody who doesn't want to be with him.
by anonymaus
Sun Oct 22, 2017 12:20 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Animals and vegetables in Instrumentality?
Replies: 17
Views: 1882

Re: Animals and vegetables in Instrumentality?

We call it 'human instrumentality' because there's no other name for it, but that was simply the name for what SEELE wanted to bring about. It isn't actually what happened. 'Human instrumentality' stopped being the gameplan as soon as Rei took Lilith's body and gained control over the proceedings. I...
by anonymaus
Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:36 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: [Theory] Why Angel contact with Lilith would be fatal + SEELE's version of 3I
Replies: 1
Views: 49

Re: [Theory] Why Angel contact with Lilith would be fatal + SEELE's version of 3I

I think the angels' plan was to to destroy Lilith's body in order to prevent humanity using it for instrumentality. They would've also needed to destroy EVA-01 since it's part of Lilith's body I guess. "A replay of Second Impact will happen if Angels contact Lilith" was just NERV's way of ...
by anonymaus
Sat Oct 21, 2017 2:31 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Rain bow during Rei/Shinji scene
Replies: 3
Views: 76

Re: Rain bow during Rei/Shinji scene

Underwear 'rained' onto them, it was just a gag.
by anonymaus
Sun Oct 15, 2017 1:27 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Love in evangelion
Replies: 15
Views: 611

Re: Love in evangelion

^ I think it's more accurate to say they don't know HOW to love. Or more likely, how to give love and accept the consequences from it. Humans naturally know how to love, it's just a feeling. That doesn't mean the love will be productive People place the label of 'true love' behind some goal line of...
by anonymaus
Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:20 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mari Breaking the Loop?
Replies: 65
Views: 1283

Re: Mari Breaking the Loop?

Okay then. Give me proof that the SDAT player has any significance other than as a sentimental item for Shinji, and as a tool to escape reality. Give me proof that the rebuild films are a continuation of the series. I already talked plenty about the SDAT in previous posts. As for the idea that rebu...
by anonymaus
Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:12 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mari Breaking the Loop?
Replies: 65
Views: 1283

Re: Mari Breaking the Loop?

The idea that Mari has tinkered with the SDAT, likely to further her goals, is very likely. I explained why thoroughly back on page 1. And it's an interesting idea which could lead to rewarding directions of thought. Good discussion of Evangelion theories happens when participants are acting as coll...
by anonymaus
Sat Oct 14, 2017 4:36 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mari Breaking the Loop?
Replies: 65
Views: 1283

Re: Mari Breaking the Loop?

The idea that it has been modified at all is pure conjecture. And it's not even clear to me that Mari fits the definition of a spy (nor that sabotage is the job of a spy in any case). Both are so clear that I legitimately don't understand how you can fail to see them unless you're willfully denying...
by anonymaus
Sat Oct 14, 2017 2:49 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mari Breaking the Loop?
Replies: 65
Views: 1283

Re: Mari Breaking the Loop?

You're going to have to elaborate on this. How does the SDAT have enough importance to be targeted? :huh: How is it clearly more than what it is to anybody within the story? The audience is given a pretty good idea that it's important, this is why it receives more screen time than some of the prima...
by anonymaus
Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:56 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mari Breaking the Loop?
Replies: 65
Views: 1283

Re: Mari Breaking the Loop?

Apart from the absolutely massive coincidence of Lilith landing on Adam's planet - something she was specifically designed NOT to do. And the coincidence that, out of the c. 1095 days Gendo had to summon Shinji, he does so on the exact day that Sachiel shows up. And the coincidence that, of all the...
by anonymaus
Sat Oct 14, 2017 1:25 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mari Breaking the Loop?
Replies: 65
Views: 1283

Re: Mari Breaking the Loop?

Another possible, much simpler explanation is that she simply damaged the SDAT by landing on it, which causes it to display different track numbers, and would explain Shinji's confusion Evangelion doesn't let silly coincidences influence important plot points. I can tell you with absolute certainty...
by anonymaus
Sat Oct 14, 2017 12:45 am
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Mari Breaking the Loop?
Replies: 65
Views: 1283

Re: Mari Breaking the Loop?

The tinkering clearly takes place while she has her back turned to him and is supposedly fumbling for her glasses. It's also really obvious that she tinkered with the SDAT, it's no coincidence that this scene happens and the very next frame is it transitioning to track 27 and Shinji going 'huh? That...
by anonymaus
Thu Oct 12, 2017 5:17 am
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Love in evangelion
Replies: 15
Views: 611

Re: Love in evangelion

You're right that much of the argument depends on varying definitions of what constitutes love. Personally I think unhealthy love is still love. And I think that affection for the kind of person someone is, and a desire to form a relationship which benefits that person, is the basis of what most con...
by anonymaus
Fri Oct 06, 2017 2:01 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: What is the significance of characters strangling each other?
Replies: 4
Views: 231

Re: What is the significance of characters strangling each other?

It's just a product of Evangelion's directorial nature, the way long drawn-out shots are preferred. You can't show a thirty second long punch, with characters exchanging emotionally charged dialogue as it happens, but strangling can last that long.
by anonymaus
Tue Oct 03, 2017 9:19 pm
Forum: Evangelion Discussion
Topic: Shinji's View of Asuka + NGE Card Game Canon Corroboration
Replies: 7
Views: 526

Re: Shinji's View of Asuka + NGE Card Game Canon Corroboration

I updated this image with a new Anno quote on the topic of 'others.' It further reinforces the canon likelihood of the card game, I think. In conjunction with the kimochi warui card it seems to give the whole picture of Shinji and Asuka's little nonverbal conversation during the finale scene. Shinji...
by anonymaus
Mon Oct 02, 2017 6:14 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Sequel theory once again.
Replies: 147
Views: 18665

Re: Sequel theory once again.

You can have the last word on that subject if you want, your replies have degenerated to basically just say "nuh uh, it's what I said"
If you want to continue believing the theory you had originally that's okay
by anonymaus
Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:41 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Sequel theory once again.
Replies: 147
Views: 18665

Re: Sequel theory once again.

Regarding the poses: do you honestly expect two flying objects with flailing limbs to crash land in the exact same pose? If one lands in perfectly congruent crucifix pose, it makes no sense at all for the other one on the moon to land like a ragdoll. It doubly doesn't make sense that the one on the...
by anonymaus
Mon Oct 02, 2017 5:01 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Sequel theory once again.
Replies: 147
Views: 18665

Re: Sequel theory once again.

Since part of the function of limbs is to be movable, basing the identity of two images in very different circumstances on their poses is pretty much as weak a justification as you can get. I explained why the moon "adam"'s arms weren't moved into that position. It is impossible for them ...
by anonymaus
Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:46 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Sequel theory once again.
Replies: 147
Views: 18665

Re: Sequel theory once again.

For the track, A simple meta/thematic continuation rather than a literal one. I don't buy that it's 'meta', nothing given so much importance has ever turned out to be 'meta' in Evangelion before. That would be a cheap cop-out. The 'this time' comments are so vague and cryptic there's almost nothing...
by anonymaus
Mon Oct 02, 2017 4:17 pm
Forum: Rebuild of Evangelion
Topic: Sequel theory once again.
Replies: 147
Views: 18665

Re: What are the "Adams"?

Self-contained loop is much less problematic than sequel theory. For the MP Evas from EoE to be relevant in any way, you need to buy into sequel theory. There is no compelling evidence that convincingly supports it however. If one is going to use sequel argument to explain other aspects of the film...

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