I just personally don't understand what part of my thought process is so hard to get. This world doesn't treat us right in my mind, so the moment I get ANY chance to fuck it up(like Instrumentality), I'm gonna take it. I hate the concept of "sucking it up" or compromising to anything, whic...

If your alternative to working a back-breaking job for little pay is starving to death, I think it might be worth it. Cute. What are they supposed to do while their rights are being fought for? Not work? Not earn money? Not support their families? Has it ever occurred to you that people often under...

...I have...no fucking clue what you're talking about anymore. None at all. You were the one that said this world was too hard to endure: you were one that said if eight or nine things out of ten were bad, then life is not worth living. So.... What does this mean?: That's a complete contradiction o...

No, it really doesn't: you've doubled back, and doubled down so many times, I'd be surprised if God knew what you were talking about. And, yes: we regulate behaviors very similarly to dogs. That was the point: human beings know how to do this, and we do to ourselves and each. Dogs don't know how to...

:scanners_head: ...rapists. ...what about asexual romantics? You know, people repulsed or uninterested in sex, but desire close human companionship? Believe it or not, the fundamental purpose most men have in romantically pursuing women is not just layered around sex. There's about ninety percent o...

That was actually about the fourth time you 'retconned' something, and it's not retconning: it's changing the parameters of what you're arguing. You're trying to say, "Oh, I meant something else," but...we all see what you wrote. It's there. It's still there. If we all see one interpretat...

I'm not going to bother any more. Each time you feel a dent being made in one of your arguments you change the rules, saying you didn't mean that* or some such. It's not worth my effort to continue (and it's almost my bedtime, so there's that). * Oh look, you did that again while I was typing... No...

Lt Light Ark: My disagreement is in abandoning the 'self,' but that's me. I like being me, and abandoning me is a concept that I find alien and abhorrent. I can see how it might appeal to others, though, and I think defended your stance eloquently. Epilogue: YOU...ARE TYPING...WORDS. Things that ex...

...They ARE unique to us. Animals are incapable of being moral: they lack the self awareness to know what is 'right' and 'wrong.' Those 'complex emotions' you denigrate are part of the many faceted minutiae and details we REQUIRE to make educated and logical decisions: the melange of experience and...

^ Again, your argument is pretty flawed in that paragraph alone. "Being human doesn't mean "intelligent" or "highly moral" or anything of that kind; these aren't unique to us.", but then you go and say "and our status as one of the only two animals that torture ot...

And...killing yourself makes you the superior organism? Explain the logic in that! All that proves is that an 'animal' has more common sense than a human if humanity's greatest aspiration is to 'end the suffering.' That doesn't prove you logical, it proves you weak. If you want to dismiss it from b...

^ Again, that's not an objective way of seeing life. That's a computer statistic, looking at the number of bad days vs good days in a person's life. We're not robots nor machines, we're human, and we all place different values on the impact of good and bad days, we don't use a statistic to determin...

Epilogue, that's life. Of course the universe doesn't give two shits about us, that's just the way the universe is. We're a small part of a much bigger picture. But instead of dwelling on the negatives and the meaningless of our existence, how about we give ourselves meaning to our existence to mak...

There is no objective measure of fairness - you have to make up your own. So all you're saying is "I don't like it". Wait, I feel like you missed my whole argument. I first said that there is no way of objective way of measuring how great/terrible each good thing/bad thing is, and that th...

That is Hot Topic, book-binder philosophy right there. I am having hard time taking your stance seriously because of this statement. There are people in this world who have suffered tremendously, and unless your typing with your tongue because you've lost both arms and legs, I doubt you get to say ...

Okay...wow. Just....wow. I've encountered my far share of nihilists on this site alone, but this is the first time I've seen someone write this level of hopelessness. Congratulations. And seriously, is your argument based on the face that bad things happen to people that there's no point in living ...

Your words were different; it helps if you say what you mean. We can only respond to what you actually write. I mean, I've always thought that everything I say would have an unwritten "should" in front of it. I'll only ever have suggestions and arguments to back them up, but I won't give ...

everybody to kill themselves, And you have no right to say that. You may feel unable to share the joy that others feel in life; but it is hugely arrogant to deny their statements that they do feel differently from you.[/quote] Well, to be fair, it is nothing more than the suggestion. I'm not saying...

Speaking as a representative of "everybody" I can simply say you're wrong in that. In any case, instead of actually responding to the (possibly difficult) question I posed, you just hid behind a proverb of dubious usefulness. I say “everybody" because I'm not trying to come up with a...

^ With all due respect, that ancient Chinese proverb is a crock of shit. I mean, the ratio is already off, because I can objectively say that, as miserable as I am at times, my life is pretty damned good in the grand scheme of things. The majority of human beings can objectively look at their lives...