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Postby Princess Asuka » Tue Feb 12, 2019 11:49 pm

So yeah, I'm excited for this. But, I don't think I'll ever accept Will Smith as the Genie. :/ I prefer Robin Williams. ^_^ I'm also pissed off that Disney didn't even bother to ask Gilbert Gottfried to reprise his role as Iago either. :/
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Postby BobBQ » Fri Feb 15, 2019 1:18 am

Getting Robin Williams to do it again would need a genie's intercession, unfortunately.

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Postby Sachi » Fri Feb 15, 2019 3:31 am

Bringing people back from the dead was against the Genie's rules. It's not a pretty picture and he doesn't like doing it.
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Postby Dartz » Sat Feb 16, 2019 8:39 pm

They have CGI for that. And Outtakes from the first film...

....even if William's original contract specifically prevented that.
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Postby TheFriskyIan » Sun Feb 17, 2019 7:04 pm

Honestly I was perfectly okay with Will Smith as the genie until I saw that abomination in the trailer. Like, couldn't they just have literally anything else look like the genie and just have Will Smith voice over it?
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Postby Princess Asuka » Mon Feb 18, 2019 12:25 am

You know who I would've cast as the Genie? Wayne Brady from Whose Line is it Anyway? He can sing and he does improv. Plus, I heard that he was friends Robin Williams. I'd love to hear Wayne Brady sing A Friend Like Me and Prince Ali.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Feb 18, 2019 1:01 am

Jesus Christ, Will Smith had better not be trying to go back to his rapping days by remixing Genie tunes. That would be embarrassing for everyone involved.

Okay, so I've only every seen one other live-action Disney remake, and that was Beauty and the Beast. Aladdin's teasers are sharing some visual similarities with that film, and I don't like them one bit. Most of it is simply the fact that they all look like they were shot on small-ish sound stages. I don't know how to properly describe it without rewatching the film and taking more detailed notes, but Beauty and the Beast looks all very dark and claustrophobic for taking place in an objectively spacious enchanted castle. And it's not claustrophobic in a "dark creepy" kinda way, rather it's claustrophobic and dark in the sense of "Oh, we shot this live stage-play and are hiding all of the lack of set details by dimming the lights and pinning small spotlights on tiny parts of the set in the hopes that no one will notice," kinda way.

Both of Aladdin's teasers give off that same vibe to me. This needs to stop.

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Postby silvermoonlight » Mon Feb 18, 2019 6:06 am

Yeah but I'm wondering if the blue genie in the trailer is in fact a red herring because if you look at the promo shots Will Smith's not wearing a black CGI suite like they do in films like Allita and planet of the apes as this is normally used to overlay a full CGI body. So I'm just wondering if that was a test which back fired terribly and they had to release the Frozen 2 trailer to get everyone's attention off it.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:52 am

I dunno. Maybe he was always only going to be blue for certain scenes, but not others. Robin Williams Genie also made himself look like a normal human from time to time. But at the same time, that blue Genie clip in the teaser didn't look motion-captured at all. It looked very much like late 90's CGI key-frame animation. It was rushed and awful and didn't look natural at all, almost like his blue floating appearance was an afterthought the whole time. I have no idea what's going on inside the Mouse's head these days, outside of "Make $1 Billion per movie and leave town ASAP."

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Postby silvermoonlight » Mon Feb 18, 2019 8:26 am

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:I dunno. Maybe he was always only going to be blue for certain scenes, but not others. Robin Williams Genie also made himself look like a normal human from time to time. But at the same time, that blue Genie clip in the teaser didn't look motion-captured at all. It looked very much like late 90's CGI key-frame animation."


I agree regarding the 90's CGI key framing animation sadly the first thing that sprang to my mind when I saw it was god this looks like that really bad CGI thing they did with the rock in the mummy returns and I still like that film despite this and it has an excuse for being bad in that it was constrained by CGI limits of the time and people were testing new things but they didn't always work.

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Aladdin on the other hand has no excuse it has a billion dollar budget behind it I do recall though people complaining about Jurassic Worlds first trailer with regard to some of the dinosaurs though they later polished this so it might be a case that its rough cut and not fixed yet.

Though If I'm brutality honest I have not warmed to these Disney remakes Maleficent was the only one I liked because it was a fresh and new take on the original. The others have all been mostly scene for scene remakes which don't change the narrative a great deal or fix problamtic gender issues and those that have tried like beauty and the beast just made it way worse as did Cinderella, I just want them to stop with these remakes and make fresh new stuff.
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Postby Chuckman » Mon Feb 18, 2019 7:36 pm

The Fresh Prince of the Lamp would work fine if the CGI figure didn't have such a close facsimile of his actual face. The effect is like one of those weird cartoons where they have footage of someone's real lips superimposed over a still image of a cartoon character. Too uncanny valley. If they made him look more cartoony, it would work.

If Thanos or the giant blue cat people in Avatar or Smeagol or whatever just had a recreation of the actor's faces and not a kind of... adaptation? Interpetation? of them, they'd look horrible too.

They really should have just gone with Will Smith as Will Smith in a genie outfit or Will Smith in blue body paint or created a CGI cartoon.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Sat Feb 23, 2019 8:56 am

In all honesty, Terry Crews would have been a better casting choice.
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Postby Chuckman » Sat Feb 23, 2019 2:00 pm

For Princess Jasmine, yes, but what about the genie?
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:57 pm

^ Jeff Goldblum as the genie, obviously. (Though I will take Chris Hemsworth if Mr. Goldblum isn't available for the role.)

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Postby silvermoonlight » Tue Mar 12, 2019 9:26 am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foyufD52aog&ab_channel=WaltDisneyStudios

So anyone wondering if the blue genie CGI Will Smith was test footage or a red herring....its not though its a mix off half human half blue genie not that, that helps any. :facepalm:
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Mar 12, 2019 11:36 am

First 30 seconds of trailer : Oh wow, I'm seeing lots of colors! Maybe this movie won't just be various shades of blue on blue.
Next 30 seconds of trailer: Okay, so some scenes will be really colorful and then others will be gross blue CG environments. Anytime Will Smith is blue is a bad look....
Following minute of trailer: Wow... so they're just basically doing the cartoon classic scene by scene.
Trailer ends: I'll skip this but I am definitely going to watch the cartoon movie this weekend.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:38 pm

I hate it. Granted, I still sob every time Robin Williams says “I’ll miss you, kid” at the end of the animated film, and that doesn’t help whatever conceit people have on an “unbiased opinion,” but I still hate it. (Aw shit, I’m crying right now, fuck this movie.)

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Postby silvermoonlight » Tue Mar 12, 2019 12:53 pm

I was gonna say the only mildly good looking thing is Rajah like I know that's CG1 but its still better than the blue genie I noticed there keeping Iago out of this trailer which is nuts as he was a hugely loved character in the oringal with his dry wit and sarcasm and the sort of up and down relationship he had with Jafar like he wasn't just a minion he had his own ideas and didn't always agree with the bad guy.
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Postby Princess Asuka » Tue Mar 12, 2019 10:21 pm

I don't think I'll ever be sold on Will Smith as the Genie. But, I did like the new version of A Whole New World used at the end of the trailer.
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