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Postby kuribo-04 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:47 am

But, then again, maybe the strongest argument to this being staged is the fact that none of the information leaked was new or revealing anyway?

That's the point I wanted to make. But maybe didn't explain well lol.


Like, sure, at first it seemed earth-shattering to me, but then I remembered that nothing new was revealed, so what does it matter?

I think it was huge at some point, but the Hikari actress thing was the big surprise to me.
Seeing this was exciting, but felt like the logical next reveal.
I was 99% sure they would be in.
(It could have gone either way though, Hikari is alive and the others died. And maybe that is actually the case. In the end we don't know.)
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Postby Giji Shinka » Sun Feb 24, 2019 3:55 am

Man, I'm pretty excited even for this small chart. I was already expecting Hikari, Toji and Aida to appear in the film.
They're probably the ones who will show Shinji hope.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:05 am

inb4 they scream at and insult Shinji in a more agressive way than the Wunder crew.

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Postby Joseki » Sun Feb 24, 2019 4:49 am

I had a showerthought: more characters are in the movie the longer it should be (in theory), I bet it's going to be a ≃2 hours movie like 2.0.

View Original Postrobersora wrote:Seems like whoever runs the account srsly fucked up, lol.





This 3 tweets got removed too.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Sun Feb 24, 2019 7:23 am

I hope whoever runs that wasn't fired (Anno seems like a nice easy-going guy, but I don't know if he would be in charge of that).

There's something called (in Germany) 4-eyes control. Have somebody do something, have somebody else control it (I mean, I guess most of you know this). It's normal to make mistakes. If this was one person in charge, that is almost unavoidable.

This is assuming it's not a stunt (seems less likely now).
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Postby robersora » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:07 am

Oh man, of course the leak party started without me. Real Life is truly a hassle one needs to overcome, lol.
Anyways:

View Original Postqmisato#885472 wrote:This character chart is really bizarre. Toji, Hikari, Kensuke, Asuka, Shinji, and Rei's annotations are formatted in a uniform, in-line shape, but the characters that follow Rei to the right have their names/heights positioned haphazardly. Some characters look as though they aren't provided corresponding heights. Makes me think the characters that follow Rei are nameless grunts, but then, why would they take up space with Shinji et al?


I maybe the cast-chart is tentative? The tweet mentions something about this being two years old at this point?
The Japanese the Twitterer is using is just too advanced for me to really make sense of them.


View Original Postqmisato#885472 wrote:(Also, because the introductions thread is locked, hello! Hi. Some of you may know me. I decided to join today.)

Hello, nice to see you :)


I personally don't care that much, if it's an intentional marketing move to gauge the impact of a calculated "leak" on social media, or a rookie mistake leveraged for marketing after recognizing they won't be able to cover it up any longer anyways. Given how tight their information control was up until now (remember how nobody so Q coming?) I kinda doubt it was a mishap.
Just consider: They brought attention to the tweet with two follow ups before deleting it. Also, it's just obscured enough to not give anything concrete away, besides the fact that, yeah. There are designs for characters who weren't confirmed dead yet. Either way, I'm glad that the hype train will slowly start moving now. Choo Choo.

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever#885485 wrote:These posts are probably (low-wage/unpaid) inters supporting the production anyway they’re told. (Incidents like this leak could be the reason why Eva Q wasn’t marketed similarly

I doubt Anno didn't notice an account active on Insta and Twitter for more than a year with the name Khara in it, posting pics from production meetings Anno was present for of all places.

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Postby Reichu » Sun Feb 24, 2019 9:50 am

Just an FYI for anybody trying to read into the lack of expected color tones (on Rei and Asuka, for example): khara does seem to create a version of character settei that has shading in flat gray and that's basically it. You can see some of these in the Q theater booklet. For mass-printed height charts, not including color makes sense, as it's an unnecessary expense.

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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Sun Feb 24, 2019 12:07 pm

^ That would lead me to believe the leak was an internal distribution only chart that wasn't meant to be shared, but was anyway most likely to drum up some publicity.

If we were supposed to see it it would have been in full color.
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Postby Zeruss » Sun Feb 24, 2019 1:32 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Just an FYI for anybody trying to read into the lack of expected color tones (on Rei and Asuka, for example): khara does seem to create a version of character settei that has shading in flat gray and that's basically it. You can see some of these in the Q theater booklet. For mass-printed height charts, not including color makes sense, as it's an unnecessary expense.


Earlier last year, khara2 also posted this photo:



Notice that the coloring/labeling style in that chart is similar to the leaked one.
Here's the feet matched to their respective 3.33 characters...

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Postby Reichu » Sun Feb 24, 2019 8:40 pm

@Zeruss: I didn't actually know about that gray-shaded 3.0 height chart at all -- that's way better than the gray-shaded 3.0 Kaworu settei in the theater book! :thumbsup:
qmisato wrote:I think the tweet was intentional, but Khara'll be damned if people have that impression. They've been really good at avoiding this kind of thing for two years. The spoilers were right smack dab on the front page. They posted multiple versions of the front page. They painstakingly made efforts to blur out small words right over Toji's head. If it was absolutely a flub, it's a mortifying, embarrassing one, and someone's getting fired.


Ah, right you are. Pity I can't make out anything about the name, other than to be pretty sure it's nobody we know.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sun Feb 24, 2019 10:54 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:I doubt Anno didn't notice an account active on Insta and Twitter for more than a year with the name Khara in it, posting pics from production meetings Anno was present for of all places.

I didn't suggest that either. Of course Anno is aware of and has control over the social media representation of his own company. (How else do you think those leaked images got deleted?) I'm just saying that he's not the one running around with the iPhone uploading everything himself. He's actually making a movie right now, and literally doesn't have time to micromanage every single thumbprint and finger tap that goes into his company's social media accounts.

I mean, do you really think the CEO of Wendy's is personally typing out those sick to McDonalds over Twitter? Probably not. Sure, he's aware of the Wendy's twitter, and is obviously okay with it, but he has other things to do with his Fortune 500 company than tweet at anime posts on Twitter 24/7. That's what other people are hired to do. Same thing's true with Studio Khara and their social media presence.

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Postby Joseki » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:32 pm

I can see Anno personally taking/posting some of pictures shared honestly. I'm also sure he (or some other director) has to approve the pictures.

I really doubt their social manager wanders around the studio taking pictures without supervision.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Feb 25, 2019 12:36 pm

We’re talking about an entire country that still doesn’t believe in business emails. Whatever online presence any of them have is entirely in its experimental stages. I’m sure they have supervision, I just don't know how closely that supervision is monitored by the company’s very own President and CEO.

I mean, shit, for all we know Anno could have posted the leak himself and the Social Media Manager decided to delete it. (And then the Social Media Manager had a sit-down talk with Anno about how Anno should be focusing on the production instead of spending all day updating Twitter.)

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Postby pwhodges » Mon Feb 25, 2019 1:38 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:instead of spending all day updating Twitter.)

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Postby Joseki » Mon Feb 25, 2019 3:03 pm

Intentional or not, what do you think the leak implies for 3.0+1.0?

Personally I'm now expecting the movie to cover at least a few weeks of in universe events. Mari fights something while the pilots walks towards "the place", then Shinji is re united with Misato and he's shocked to see the now adults Toji, Kensuke and Hikari (Gunbuster feels) and they have at least a few days of in universe time to spend together before Shinji has save/doom the Earth.
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Postby robersora » Mon Feb 25, 2019 8:09 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Wendy's, Anno and their social media techniques.


You can't compare Wendy's to Khara in, like, any way. I'm just saying that a slip up this huge seems kinda weird. Unless someone else got suddenly access to that account I really can't see how someone who has so diligently blurred everything up until now suddenly misses this thing. If they did, well, ok, weird. I'm just insinuating that this very well could have been a guerrilla marketing stunt - the timing would be perfect.

While Japan might be a little behind in certain areas, I doubt that Khara, this small post-Gainax venture pushing 3DCG of all things, is as out of touch as, idk, the mobile phone division of Sony.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Feb 25, 2019 10:28 pm

I'm just saying that the social media marketing is all very experimental. Honestly, much of the motivation behind Khara's second Twitter account seems to be more to ease the nerves of fans patiently waiting for a sequel with updates evidencing the production's existence, and not a marketing technique in any way whatsoever. Remember, the fully animated teaser was dropped on us with little-to-no Twitter warning at all. Khara's Twitter isn't a "build hype" kinda twitter inasmuch as it's a "We're working on the movie, we promise" kinda twitter. Marketing gimmicks seem wasted on it. The problem is that we as Westerners are used to the Wendy's hottakes as alternate marketing, so we easily confuse Khara's twitter to be for some kind of marketing as well. Even the Japanese Eva blog says it's a mistake, and we as Westerners read (intentionally or not) some kind of sarcasm in that statement due to our own Western cultural background.

I have no idea how Japanese people actually treat companies and studios on Twitter, so I don't know what the proper read on any of their reactions would be. I'm not saying that Japanese Eva belongs aren't being sarcastic when they parrot Khara's "admission" of an "honest mistake," but if our relationship with Western Twitter is all we have to base our assumptions on, when we're really off base no matter what.

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Postby robersora » Mon Feb 25, 2019 11:22 pm

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I mean, ok. We might never know, and it really doesn't matter in the end. I just can't bring myself to believe in a mistake, I'm sorry.
I just really wouldn't put it past Anno to try something new - this small account would be the perfect testing ground for Avantgarde marketing either way, wouldn't it.
But lets see if there's gonna be any fallout from the account's actions... Like if it doesn't post any longer, ok. That would be a sign for someone getting fired over a contractual breach.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Feb 26, 2019 12:17 am

Here's the thing—mistake with the leak or not, even if somebody was/is fired (especially one of Khara's social media people) would we even know? I'd think it'd be done quietly to avoid making a big deal about all this.

KharaInc2 RT'd an old photo of Anno and Sagisu (among other random RTs) in the past few days, but there definitely hasn't been anymore "interesting details we're sharing with you" uploads since their apology.
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Postby Zeruss » Tue Feb 26, 2019 5:33 am

Even the apology thread seems to have been deleted now...
All the tweets related to/acknowledging the incident have been scrubbed from the account.
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