The Tree of Life Significance

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Postby PenPen4life » Thu Jan 31, 2019 11:19 pm

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:That's kind of meant to be its selling point, you know.

Just because I pitch something as pleasant doesn't mean it'll be pleasant in practice

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Postby Reichu » Sat Feb 02, 2019 12:01 am

Let's get back on topic, shall we?
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Postby PenPen4life » Mon Feb 04, 2019 1:29 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Let's get back on topic, shall we?

Aight aight.

Trees have wood lead to colorful life(leaves/fruit) at the top. An upside down tree has colorful life lead to wood at the top. Seele's sucking the color out of everything. Definitely not fans of Splatoon.

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Postby LPeyrani » Mon Jul 22, 2019 2:17 pm

Even if Evangelion is not a religious work, its metaphysics are closely related to theology and psychology, as it has always been in antiquity (at least until Galilei). I would simply characterize Eva's conception of the world as "classical" as opposed to "modern western". The fact that the world(s) is (are) inner to phaenomenon (to experience), as well as the subject, moreover esablishes it as a phaenomenological position. This is not exclusive to German thinkers like Husserl, but has an Eastern ancient parallel in Yogacara Buddhism schools.
That said, what about the ToL is significant to metaphysics? I would say... almost everything. The ToL depicts a structure that is meant to be found everywhere in the world, a sort of blueprint of Creation itself; so, it is used to analyze all processes, from digestion to mystical experience. Is it possible to reconcile this use of the ToL with a phaenomenological point of view? Well, that's where the psychological aspects of the theory become psychoanalitic: Lacan's reading of Freud provides the bridge with phaenomenology. But I'm not going into the details here, it's not the right place. Let's just say that the Leibnizian doctrine of the monad is another important ingredient to the mix and go on.
My idea regarding the ToL significance in Eva is closely related to the nature of AT Fields, but to understand this one must first see how every AT Field is not just a subject, but a world. All attributes of the world are inner to the subject. Defining the outline, the... profile of the subject is defining the outline of not-subject at the same time. So we don't only have Shinji's Misato and Misato's Shinji, but also Shinji's NeoTokyo and Misato's NeoTokyo, Shinji's Japan and Misato's Japan, and so on. I'm not just saying that the subject uses the image of the Other to build itself (the so-called Mirror stage), but that the external surface of every individual is the point of individuation of that individual and of its world at the same time.
So, if we accept this interpretation of what an AT Field is (or, better: the interpretation of what a world is), it's easy to understand why they're interested in the ToL: making an AT Field is making a ToL, and viceversa.


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