Favorite crazy Evangelion theories

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Postby one-eyed » Sun Nov 25, 2018 11:17 am

One theory I heard a lot when everyone commented on the looping of time in Rebuilding was that Adam on the Moon was the Eva 01 of the previous timeline. After the EoE-like event of the earlier timeline of this continuum, Eva 01, without propulsion, would have been drawn to lunar gravity and would fall there. Seele found, found out about the reboot and used it to create Eva 06 since it was a "true god".

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Postby Shamsiel-kun » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:34 pm

View Original Postthewayneiac wrote:It doesn't qualify. It was a perfectly legitimate theory until the C.I. came out and explicitly contradicted it. It wasn't crazy at all.

Now if you want to bring up TOL at 2I.................


Those patterns look suspiciously like the kind of pattern you get when you put a drop of a somewhat viscous lubricant on a sheet of plastic, then press another sheet on top of it, remove the pressure, and the second sheet separates a bit afterwards...

Either that, or the cells had a fungus growing inside of them. ^_^

Edit: Oh, of course I shouldn't bring logic to this thread, so crazy theory time:

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Postby cyharding » Mon Dec 24, 2018 9:00 pm

Is this thread for theories that we've heard about the show from time to time or is for theories that we come up ourselves, even if we don't even take them seriously? I'm asking because I have an example of the latter.

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Postby ACGT-Samael » Tue Dec 25, 2018 12:05 am

View Original Postcyharding wrote:Is this thread for theories that we've heard about the show from time to time or is for theories that we come up ourselves, even if we don't even take them seriously? I'm asking because I have an example of the latter.


Pretty sure both are perfectly valid.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:15 am

3.0+1.0 will be literally a combo of Eva 3.0 and 1.0, one playing after the other.
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Postby ACGT-Samael » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:22 am

View Original Postkuribo-04 wrote:3.0+1.0 will be literally a combo of Eva 3.0 and 1.0, one playing after the other.


Stable time loops are cool yo.

Anyway, this isn't a specific theory, but TV Tropes seems to interpret some of the scenes from NGE and End in odd ways. Notably, it interprets Asuka and Shinji on the beach at the end as evidence the rest of humanity isn't coming back - not because they can't, but because they chose not to. According to the tropers only 2 people out of 3.5 billion don't feel like being soul soup.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Sat Jan 19, 2019 10:39 am

only 2 people out of 3.5 billion

Pretty depressed people too.
If anything it should be confirmation more people will come back.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Sat Jan 19, 2019 12:58 pm

Taking the ending at face value, everyone else ascends as stardust, while the two pilots are left in their own special damnation, in the anti-Eden, the wilderness at the End of the World.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Sat Jan 19, 2019 2:28 pm

^ Are we sure they aren't the lucky ones? They got to keep their individuality while everyone else became one with each other in the Fanta-sea.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Jan 20, 2019 1:54 pm

@Mr. Tines: The movie not-so-subtly shows the souls of humanity escaping the Black Moon and spreading back across the Earth. There's no "ascending as stardust", not at "face value" or as anything else. (Has it still been over 10 years since you saw the movie?)

@DarkBluePhoenix: Instrumentality explicitly ended, and the souls in the ocean are all separated from one another by ATFs.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Sun Jan 20, 2019 5:14 pm

Apart from inspecting snatches to check the registration of sub-titles against the Blu-ray, and things like that, it's actually just a couple of months shy of 15 years, now.

However, I still have notes from near that time, even though the earliest time-stamped record I can find of same here dates from 4½ years after viewing.

With the sequence being first the Black Moon bursts, then Lilith/Rei collapses, and only afterwards do all the crosses that had spread over the Earth ascend, it all seemed like a hybrid of a Rapture and a panspermia event, at least through the eschatological goggles I was watching with.
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Postby Reichu » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:51 pm

The crosses don't represent souls. The little red dots do, and those expressly fell back to Earth.

What the crosses represent is the Way to God, the desire for human transcendence, as voiced by Gendo in episode 21 while a shadow cross appeared ominously behind him. In EoE, the formation of these crosses from Lilith's AATF launches humanity's souls skyward, into the flow that carries them to Lilith and, accordingly, to reunion with God. Shinji denied Instrumentality to humanity's souls, and the souls flocked back down to earth accordingly.

But who is heading for the heavens as the crosses ascend? Eva-01. While Lilith died in the aftermath of HIP, Eva-01 only became more powerful. She is the only human of Earth who achieved a permanent state of transcendence.

I never really thought about it before, but that climactic image of Eva-01 floating amidst a sea of rising crosses to a triumphant score is really kinda perfect.

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Postby kuribo-04 » Mon Jan 21, 2019 6:08 am

∆ That's a nice interpretation of that sequence. Never thought of why the crosses go up.
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Postby Joseki » Thu Jan 24, 2019 4:06 pm

Gendo's visor in 3.0 is connected to Shinji's mind so that he can always see and hear what he does, and he does have a telepathy link with him (he was the one calling him using Rei's voice at the beginning of the movie).
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Postby robersora » Sun Jan 27, 2019 5:08 am

^
That's not even that crazy, lol
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Tue Feb 12, 2019 8:51 pm

View Original Postkuribo-04 wrote:3.0+1.0 will be literally a combo of Eva 3.0 and 1.0, one playing after the other.

Or hear me out, the third child plus the first angel or even unit 13.
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Postby Shamsiel-kun » Thu Feb 21, 2019 3:03 pm

View Original PostChaddyManPrime wrote:Or hear me out, the third child plus the first angel or even unit 13.


Or Shini tormented by enhanced versions of all angels that instead of cores wear his face distorted in an eternal scream, reminding him for an eternity of all he did wrong.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Fri Feb 22, 2019 1:56 pm

Shin Eva will have a moment where Mari finally realizes that she is the ultimate Evangelion Unit, and jumps out of Unit 2+8 and single-handedly takes out 15 whole MPEs in one blow, all while Asuka tearfully shouts “Come back, Senpai!!!”

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Postby ErgoProxy » Tue Mar 12, 2019 1:43 am

FreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:she is the ultimate Evangelion Unit

I dare to disagree with that, since in my theory Mari is simply an incarnation of Daria Morgendorfer, who entered the Sick Sad World for the second time. Her first incarnation was Matarael of course. :tongue:
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