Kare Kano Blu Ray boxset coming out in March 2019 in Japan

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Postby Joseki » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:15 am

http://neweva.blog103.fc2.com/blog-entry-5694.html




Great news! ^_^
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:26 am

Now THIS Funimation should be able to afford the rights for.

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Postby Joseki » Thu Dec 20, 2018 10:33 am

https://www.amazon.co.jp/gp/product/B07 ... RJN5&psc=1

The preorder page is up on Amazon. 14000 yen, March 27th.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Thu Dec 20, 2018 12:08 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Now THIS Funimation should be able to afford the rights for.

That's cute, but Funimation can't have it anyway. NOZOMI ENTERTAINMENT ALREADY HAS THE LICENSE FOR THE DVDS (and I consider them the better anime disc distributor anyway), so I think it's gonna be more like Nozomi's other release of Utena. They might discontinue the DVDs (which are still currently in print), but only if they’ve renegotiated the licenses for the HD maters for a Blu-ray release.

Feast phallus, Funi.

EDIT: Also, I hit up Nozomi Entertainment over Twitter, and they said that they had nothing to share regarding a Blu-ray upgrade. Guess we wait.

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Postby Joseki » Sun Dec 23, 2018 12:30 pm

Bad news:


It's an upscale, not an HD remaster.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sun Dec 23, 2018 2:28 pm

Wait, what? Do you have a source for that?

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Postby Joseki » Sun Dec 23, 2018 4:00 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Wait, what? Do you have a source for that?


http://king-cr.jp/special/karekano_bdbox/

FORS(フォルス)技術で美麗にHD化された映像となります!

It will be a beautifully rendered HD video with FORS (false) technology!


Also here a technical explaination. They upscale from the SD feed to HD, they don't go back to the film/cells.

https://translate.google.com/translate? ... picture%2F

They also have some example of the median quality upgrade of the technology.

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Resolution will be HD, but the video quality will still be substandard sadly.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sun Dec 23, 2018 11:00 pm

Hm....

I mean, if the upscale is really good, a manually upscaled video for Blu-ray is still better than an automatic upscale of DVD content. And for standard definition shows that were fully digitally produced, I actually prefer the upscale to the original DVD when playing them on a flat panel television. (The upscale of Samurai Champloo is pretty great, for example.)

BUT Kare Kano wasn't fully produced in a digital workflow, so they could theoretically go back to the original film stock if it isn't lost.

BUT so much of Kare Kano's animated titles were rendered digitally in an interlaced SD format that much of those elements would have to be reconstructed from the ground for an authentic HD release. (And there were a lot of them.) And I do remember that, along with the animated on-screen titles, much of the episode recaps were "fast-forwarded" in a way that fully utilized 60 fields-per-second interlaced video, which wouldn't be a part of the 24 frames-per-second workflow for a conventional HD release. So ultimately so much of Kare Kano's editing workflow seemed to fully utilize interlaced digital formats that rescanning into a proper 24 fps format would be difficult.

BUT wouldn't an upscale simply do the same thing anyway? Modern flat-panel televisions were never in interlaced formats, only the CRT television were. Adjusting any of that stuff for a progressive-based format (such as a flat panel HD screen) in an upscale would simply a lazy way of negating the uniqueness of the interlaced video in Kare Kano as rescanning the film would.

Hm.... I don't like this too much. Like, it's better than nothing, but it's not the best that they could feasible and reasonably do. It's not like they need to re-animate or re-photograph the cels for an authentic HD experience, they just gotta scan the original film in HD. (Unless they lost it, which is entirely likely given how Gainax also lost the film reels for Episode 16 of NGE.)

Whatever. Actually, I have a home theater system that uses both an LED flat panel and a CRT television. I pick whichever screen is best suited to whatever format I'm watching. (VHS, DVD, Blu-ray, etc., in fact, just today I watched Jurassic Park on both VHS and Blu-ray simultaneously.) Technically, I can still watch Kare Kano in all its interlaced glory on my old CRT. I'm just confused as to why they aren't providing an authentic HD release with their Blu-rays. I mean, if the animation was originally photographed on film, then why not?

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Postby Joseki » Mon Dec 24, 2018 12:58 pm

I guess it's less expensive to simply upscale the DVD feed, or as you said they lost the film.
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Postby robersora » Tue Dec 25, 2018 9:00 am

It also could be that they don't expect to sell enough copies to warrant an expensive remaster, especially when it is difficult like FreakyFilmFan4ever suggested.
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