Does Rei Ayanami have schizophrenia?

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Does Rei Ayanami have schizophrenia?

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Postby C. Smith » Tue Dec 18, 2018 10:08 pm

According to her Wikipedia page, Rei is categorized as having Schizophrenia. Additionally, Anno has admitted in an interview that he tried to make her a schizophrenic but couldn't. But let's see if Rei really has it, based on the DSM-V criteria (as outlined below).

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According to the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, Fifth Edition, (DSM-V), to meet the criteria for diagnosis of schizophrenia, the patient must have experienced at least 2 of the following symptoms:

A. Two (or more) of the following, each present for a significant portion of time during a 1-month period (or less if successfully treated):

(1) delusions

(2) hallucinations

(3) disorganized speech (e.g., frequent derailment or incoherence)

(4) grossly disorganized or catatonic behavior

(5) negative symptoms, i.e., affective flattening, alogia, or avolition

Note: At least two of the five symptoms must be present for at least one month. One of the two symptoms must be delusions, hallucinations, or disorganized speech.


B. Social/occupational dysfunction: For a significant portion of the time since the onset of the disturbance, one or more major areas of functioning such as work, interpersonal relations, or self-care are markedly below the level achieved prior to the onset (or when the onset is in childhood or adolescence, failure to achieve expected level of interpersonal, academic, or occupational achievement).


C. Duration: Continuous signs of the disturbance persist for at least 6 months. This 6-month period must include at least 1 month of symptoms (or less if successfully treated) that meet Criterion A (i.e., active-phase symptoms) and may include periods of prodromal or residual symptoms. During these prodromal or residual periods, the signs of the disturbance may be manifested by only negative symptoms or two or more symptoms listed in Criterion A present in an attenuated form (e.g., odd beliefs, unusual perceptual experiences).


D. Schizoaffective and mood disorder exclusion: Schizoaffective disorder and mood disorder with psychotic features have been ruled out because either (1) no major depressive, manic, or mixed episodes have occurred concurrently with the active-phase symptoms; or (2) if mood episodes have occurred during active-phase symptoms, their total duration has been brief relative to the duration of the active and residual periods.


E. Substance/general medical condition exclusion: The disturbance is not due to the direct physiological effects of a substance (e.g., a drug of abuse, a medication) or a general medical condition.


F. Relationship to a pervasive developmental disorder: If there is a history of autistic disorder or another pervasive developmental disorder, the additional diagnosis of schizophrenia is made only if prominent delusions or hallucinations are also present for at least a month (or less if successfully treated)
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Postby Bhorium » Wed Dec 19, 2018 8:05 am

The premise of slapping a human diagnosis on someone who is at least somewhat beyond human is questionable.
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Postby Reichu » Fri Dec 21, 2018 9:09 am

The Wikipedia claim is unsourced, so forget that. If the interview statement does exist, I'm curious where it's from so I can look at the original wording.

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Postby Shamsiel-kun » Fri Dec 21, 2018 1:48 pm

My theory is that Rei is actually a heavy drinker of medicinal alcohol behind the scenes, who is very good at hiding it. Eva is us witnessing her Delirium tremens increasing from moderately benign to completely bonkers. Besides, the exact nature of the Rei-quarium fluid is not known to us. :emogendo:

TL;DR version: people should not try to diagnose animated characters (or long dead people for that matter) with <insert popular/favourite DSM disorder>. We had the "Rei has assburgers :nyao: /autism"-fad already in the past...
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Postby Nerd King 101 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 6:00 pm

Rei Ayanami is not human and was raised by Gendo and is technically like 4 when the series starts. I think her issues stem from that
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Postby Reichu » Sun Jan 20, 2019 8:25 pm

"Not human" isn't accurate and tells us nothing; the series itself is clear on her humanity. I think her problems can be mostly attributed to a combination of (A) being an ancient alien in the wrong body whose soul has been artificially fragmented, and (B) being intentionally raised in a manipulative and deprivatory manner.

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Postby Ambiant23 » Sun Jan 20, 2019 10:36 pm

I remember the Rei has autism thing. Also Shinji is listed on the wikipedia for fictional bisexual characters

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Postby Melkor » Sun Jan 20, 2019 11:09 pm

View Original PostAmbiant23 wrote:I remember the Rei has autism thing.


What was the consensus on that? This is the first I've heard of it, but now that I think about it she does seem to display behaviors of someone with autism.

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Postby Blockio » Sat Jan 26, 2019 6:02 pm

View Original PostMelkor wrote:What was the consensus on that? This is the first I've heard of it, but now that I think about it she does seem to display behaviors of someone with autism.

Doesn't really hold up to scrutiny, the parallels are only surface level
http://forum.evageeks.org/post/871305/Ayanami-and-Autism/#871305
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Postby C. Smith » Sat Feb 02, 2019 10:37 pm

View Original PostBlockio wrote:Doesn't really hold up to scrutiny, the parallels are only surface level
http://forum.evageeks.org/post/871305/Ayanami-and-Autism/#871305


I heard Rei more likely has Schizoid Personality Disorder.

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Postby ShonHam » Sun Feb 03, 2019 5:47 am

Rei's behaviour is a bi-product of her upbringing I believe. If Anno wished to make her schizophrenic, then it seems it remained a concept and nothing more.
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Postby C. Smith » Mon Feb 04, 2019 3:01 am

View Original PostShonHam wrote:Rei's behaviour is a bi-product of her upbringing I believe. If Anno wished to make her schizophrenic, then it seems it remained a concept and nothing more.


That was his original intent except he didn't know how to write a schizophrenic character properly. Most likely Rei would have hallucinated a lot (she does have at least the flattened emotional affect that most people tend to overlook when they think Schizophrenia), have delusional beliefs and say incoherent phrases.

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Postby Reichu » Mon Feb 04, 2019 11:37 am

Second request -- any chance we can get a source on Anno's "intent" here?

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Postby Lavinius » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:50 am

Rei Ayanami has loveleiness.

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Postby Amalgam429 » Sun Feb 10, 2019 10:39 am

I'm with the masses on this one. Rei is another persons soul, combined with a god, inside a lillin vessel. I think it's very unfair to judge her state of mind based on human science. Whatever issues she may have probably relate to state of being rather than anything medical.

Furthermore, if she did have some sort of condition like that, I'm sure Ritsuko or Gendo would've taken note and acted accordingly. The fact that they never focus on any of those symptoms throughout the course of either her arcs or just the main series in general makes me think a medical condition like that was not supposed to be suggested in the airing of the show
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