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Postby robersora » Tue Jun 06, 2017 4:14 pm

^
I'll hold out hope. This could work.
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Postby zlink64 » Tue Jun 06, 2017 10:32 pm

I can't believe it but we are actually gonna get a live action show. Not sure how I feel about it but I guess in the long run anime adaptations aren't a bad thing.

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Postby EvangelionFan » Thu Jun 08, 2017 6:26 am

I'd give a Live-action TV series of Cowboy Bebop a shot.

I've gotta say, though, I've thought about this and I'm uncertain of what I'd like in a live-action adaptation. A recreation of the style a setting? Some pleasant little one-shot episodes? Well choreographed space-western action sequences? Or watching this set of characters interacting with and riffing off of one another?

One thing though is that I'd like for it to do is offer fresh and reasonable conflicts for these characters to face, and force them out of their comfort zones. For all that the original series does (which I guess is what we'll have to call if it this live action series does go through), I don't remember it really pushing any of the central cast too far from their collective comfort - and as their everyday struggles to get food and work were usually played as comedy for comic relief (and for reason, as it is a cartoon) I'd feel more than a little odd watching real people in their situation (in their own ship in space) shrug off not having their own food more than once or twice without it turning into some sort of crisis.

Come to think of it, I lasted watched this series seven years ago, and apart from some key story beats I don't recall a lot about the thematic dimensions in the series. Is this something that anyone else has felt as well?
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Postby Joseki » Thu Jun 08, 2017 4:10 pm

View Original PostEvangelionFan wrote:I'd give a Live-action TV series of Cowboy Bebop a shot.

I've gotta say, though, I've thought about this and I'm uncertain of what I'd like in a live-action adaptation.


I'd like a good script based on what made Cowboy Bebop great that doesn't turn into a simple live action copy paste and this:

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sun Jun 11, 2017 5:42 am

Western live-action anime adaptations have NEVER turned out well, neither critically nor financially. What I expect from the show is far different from what I want in the show.

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Postby Gus Hanson » Tue Jun 13, 2017 9:17 am

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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Wed Nov 28, 2018 6:42 am

Bump

Well, seeing as the discussion a year ago was about this, Netflix is releasing a live-action adaptation of Cowboy Bebop. I wonder if that means they'll be streaming the original too...
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Postby Joseki » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:45 am

The original has been on Netflix Italy for at least a few years (but sadly not the movie).

Also Keanu Reeves as Spike or riot.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Wed Nov 28, 2018 9:54 pm

View Original PostJoseki wrote:Also Keanu Reeves as Spike or riot.

That would be literally the most awesome thing ever... I think he can still pull it off.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Wed Nov 28, 2018 10:05 pm

Can't imagine Reeves actually being cast, as interesting as it would be.

I think Joseph Gordon-Levitt is more age-appropriate for the role. Plus, he probably has a familiarity with the series--his character in Brick was heavily modeled on Spike.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:28 pm

^ Well Reeves is wishful thinking on my part, and Gordon-Levitt could do it, but who would be Faye? Alexandra Daddario? And who would be cast as Jet? Forrest Whitaker? I can't even think of someone to play Ed.
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Postby robersora » Thu Nov 29, 2018 7:47 am

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Ed should be played by Yoko Kanno.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Thu Nov 29, 2018 9:58 am

^ Thank you, honestly couldn't think of someone... but do you agree with the other two I mentioned?
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Nov 29, 2018 11:03 am

Lakeith Stanfield as Spike or I riot.

Either way, I'm curious if Shinichiro Watanabe's consulting producer credit is the very rare "He actually was involved in most aspects of production in a consulting fashion" role OR the far common John Carpenter style of "He's given a massive paycheck for the assurance that up to a certain date that is long after the production is released, whenever asked about the production he only says the most upbeat & positive things possible".

I will say it's sneaky how they credit the new show as being from the "writer of Thor: Ragnarok" when that movie was heavily re-written in production by Taika Waititi. It would be more authentic to say it's from the writer of Thor: The Dark World or something called Max Steel.

I don't think a live action Cowboy Bebop is a good idea cause the animation in the original is so perfect & stylized to that world specifically, at best a live action show could be a good mimic. But, it's not like I'm NOT gonna watch this. That's the success of the Netflix model. I have a membership so when it's ready I can watch this whenever I want and I have a passing interest in it because I like the show. Soooooo one quiet Tuesday evening in late 2019 I'm sure I'll be browsing Netflix looking for something to watch, will come across this, think for a second and even if the reviews are live-action Fullmetal Alchemist or live action Death Note bad I'll just shrug say "fuck it" and click play.

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Postby xwait » Fri Nov 30, 2018 9:01 pm

View Original PostJoseki wrote:The original has been on Netflix Italy for at least a few years


From December 14, 2018, no more Cowboy Bebop on Netflix Italy :uhh:

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Postby robersora » Fri Nov 30, 2018 10:33 pm

View Original PostDarkBluePhoenix wrote:^ Thank you, honestly couldn't think of someone... but do you agree with the other two I mentioned?


Honestly, I do neither know of, nor do I care that much about American pop culture to make any educated statements on that topic, sorry.
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View Original Postxwait wrote:From December 14, 2018, no more Cowboy Bebop on Netflix Italy :uhh:

Is Bebop well known in Italy?
I'm curious as if it was on Netflix Germany.
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View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Either way, I'm curious if Shinichiro Watanabe's consulting producer credit is the very rare "He actually was involved in most aspects of production in a consulting fashion" role OR the far common John Carpenter style of "He's given a massive paycheck for the assurance that up to a certain date that is long after the production is released, whenever asked about the production he only says the most upbeat & positive things possible".

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I guess it's the latter. But honestly, I really think he loves the idea either way, he seems like a huge movie nerd.

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:I don't think a live action Cowboy Bebop is a good idea cause the animation in the original is so perfect & stylized to that world specifically, at best a live action show could be a good mimic.

I mean, the original show's aesthetics are phenomenal. But I think, if amazingly talented people work on this project with the right mindset, I can see this working.
(though I also thought I could see Death Note working in Live Action, so who knows)
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Postby Settie » Fri Nov 30, 2018 11:56 pm

I'm in the cautiously optimistic camp on this one, Bebop is one of those properties that can transition to live action quite easily.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:06 am

Watanabe has been know to cuss out American producers for projects he's been commissioned to work on himself. When the producers for Blade Runner 2049 told him that he couldn't bring in his own score composer for his animated short film, Shinichiro shouted "shut your fucking mouth" in English. (He ended up getting his own score composer for his Blade Runner short film, BTW.)

All I'm saying is that, if they're not giving him open freedom to take this wherever he wants, then Netflix had better just give Watanabe their bank account and routing numbers if they wanna keep that off the discussion topics for the time being.

Also, yes. Yoko Kanno as Ed or I'll riot.

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Postby robersora » Sat Dec 01, 2018 2:29 am

^
I need sources for that. That sounds frankly amazing.

Now Tokyo in Resonance makes even less sense to me.
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