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Postby Joseki » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:58 pm

View Original PostDarkBluePhoenix wrote:But that would be a predestination paradox. Her going back in time and saying she is their daughter leads to her conception. By trying to avoid the paradox, they create the paradox.


Yeah but Asuka isn't an expert in time paradoxes, that's more Shinji's camp (and of course he isn't going to contradict Asuka).
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:02 pm

^ Who would when they're about to get some? But would that be in Shinji's wheelhouse? Is he a BTTF fan?
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Postby silvermoonlight » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:48 pm

View Original PostDarkBluePhoenix wrote:^ Who would when they're about to get some? But would that be in Shinji's wheelhouse? Is he a BTTF fan?


Its get worse as if Mari is say intersex she could in fact be her own mother as this scenario was played out in the film Predestination which is about the predestination paradox where you can in essence be your own mother or father or be both and its really messed up. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Predestination_(film)
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Postby ACGT-Samael » Fri May 04, 2018 1:00 pm

Somebody suggested to me the bizarre theory that all the scenes with the Evas and Angels are metaphors in-universe and don't actually happen; they're just a dramatized version of Shinji's own mental struggles. This apparently also extends to both versions of Instrumentality.

Said theory came from the same guy who told me Eva is solely a character psychology story, and said any discussion of the scifi elements of the show is missing the point and therefore you're wrong for doing it. Obvious self contradiction aside, not sure how I feel about theories that involve treating in-universe events as not real without any indication within the show that it should be so.

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Postby silvermoonlight » Fri May 04, 2018 3:12 pm

View Original PostACGT-Samael wrote:Somebody suggested to me the bizarre theory that all the scenes with the Evas and Angels are metaphors in-universe and don't actually happen; they're just a dramatized version of Shinji's own mental struggles. This apparently also extends to both versions of Instrumentality.

Said theory came from the same guy who told me Eva is solely a character psychology story, and said any discussion of the scifi elements of the show is missing the point and therefore you're wrong for doing it. Obvious self contradiction aside, not sure how I feel about theories that involve treating in-universe events as not real without any indication within the show that it should be so.


Suddenly I'm reminded of that really lame Buffy episode called Normal Again which totally undermined the whole series by saying Buffy is in reality some one in a mental wards padded room living out the adventures in her head meaning that all the people she helped were never helped all the people she saved never happened all the best friends she met never happened ether...your friends theory is basically saying the same thing about Shinji and its a tragic concept.
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Postby ACGT-Samael » Fri May 04, 2018 3:18 pm

View Original Postsilvermoonlight wrote:Suddenly I'm reminded of that really lame Buffy episode called Normal Again which totally undermined the whole series by saying Buffy is in reality some one in a mental wards padded room living out the adventures in her head meaning that all the people she helped were never helped all the people she saved never happened all the best friends she met never happened ether...your friends theory is basically saying the same thing about Shinji and its a tragic concept.


Wouldn't exactly call him a friend so much as "a guy I talk to" but basically yes. In addition though, it kind of insults your audience by telling them that thing they liked wasn't real even within the show.

I'm fairly certain he has a vested interest in believing this theory since he's one of those people who only likes really cerebral and psychology heavy fiction. I imagine if he ever wrote something it'd be more like a think piece than an actual story.

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Postby silvermoonlight » Fri May 04, 2018 3:25 pm

View Original PostACGT-Samael wrote:Wouldn't exactly call him a friend so much as "a guy I talk to" but basically yes. In addition though, it kind of insults your audience by telling them that thing they liked wasn't real even within the show.

I'm fairly certain he has a vested interest in believing this theory since he's one of those people who only likes really cerebral and psychology heavy fiction. I imagine if he ever wrote something it'd be more like a think piece than an actual story.


The only way I could see someone writing that is if they say Shinji is having mental episodes and drawing it out on paper in the presence of his friends Rei (Could be his sister depending on your view point) Asuka, Kaworu, Toji, Hikari and Kensuke and there all playing out the roles to help him get through it hopping that he'll break back in to reality because at least then unlike the Buffy episode the reward at the end is being embraced by his friends.
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Postby ACGT-Samael » Fri May 04, 2018 3:29 pm

View Original Postsilvermoonlight wrote:The only way I could see someone writing that is if they say Shinji is having mental episodes and drawing it out on paper in the presence of his friends Rei (Could be his sister depending on your view point) Asuka, Kaworu, Toji, Hikari and Kensuke and there all playing out the roles to help him get through it hopping that he'll break back in to reality because at least then unlike the Buffy episode the reward at the end is being embraced by his friends.



...so basket by turning the series into Shutter Island. It's a neat idea for sure, but I'm not sure how well it'd actually pan out.

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Postby silvermoonlight » Fri May 04, 2018 4:21 pm

View Original PostACGT-Samael wrote:...so basket by turning the series into Shutter Island. It's a neat idea for sure, but I'm not sure how well it'd actually pan out.


Nether would I and its not something I'd try writing I think it needs a way better writer than I am to do it, because that is some real hard psychological stuff to pull off and to make the ending pay off right.
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Postby fukuda » Fri May 04, 2018 7:50 pm

At first I thought it was literally its title and was trying to piece the story together with biblical consistency. I'd like to see someone try winding everything together using all the symbolism and see what they could make of it.
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