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Postby AdamMalkovitch » Thu Feb 08, 2018 1:05 pm

Mania is one of the greatest games ever released, period. Adventure 2 is overrated and terrible, Adventure 1 is badass and my favorite Adventure-style Sonic game. 06 is fun as hell even with the bugs, Colours is good but only the first acts and bosses, Unleashed HD is fucking awesome, Unleashed SD is fun but too segmented for my tastes. Sonic 1 is decent, CD is abysmal, 2 is good, 3 & Knuckles is incredible, R is fun but bad, Fighters is terrible but has awesome music. Forces is an enjoyable movie, but a shit game, Infinite is one of the most pointless, confused characters ever "written". Shadow the Hedgehog is fun explody gun bang bang pew pew explosions insanity with way too many possible goddamn paths and incredible CG cutscenes (Mari Makinami would love this one). Generations is okay, but Modern's stomp lag combined with how long it takes the stomp animation to finish completely ruins modern Crisis City for me, and Classic's almost-there-but-not-quite physics just make it hurt to play his stages.
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Postby FrDougal9000 » Thu Feb 08, 2018 2:45 pm

I think the reason critics, as well as most fans, got pissed with Sonic Forces was due to one big thing: since Lost World and Boom had been on the Wii U (which very few people owned), this was going to be the first main series Sonic game that most people would be able to play since Sonic Generation: in other words, in SIX YEARS. Yes, there was Sonic Mania (and thank fuck for that), but a lot of folks felt that this would be the big game to pay attention to. And there was so much hype around it: it had stakes that the series hadn't seen in nearly a decade, Classic Sonic was coming back, there were custom characters in it! Love it or hate it, Sonic Forces was going to be a memorable game.

And in the end? It was just a mediocre nothing of a game: not terrible (and props to yourself and everyone else who enjoys the game regardless), but there was nothing to it. After all this time, after all the hype, and it ultimately amounted to nothing. At least Mania softened the blow by being a simply excellent platformer that delighted a vast chunk of the fandom; lord knows what would have happened if it was just Forces that came out.
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Postby AdamMalkovitch » Fri Mar 09, 2018 11:02 am

So I was designing a made up MK-II form of a possible E-107 x (chi) while thinking over the theory that the AAA WUNDER is a modified 12th Angel, and had an idea- what if the Egg Carrier is a super-modified E Series Model Machine? I know that when E-102 y (Gamma) is activated, Robotnik tells her that she's the second of his E Series Model Machines, but this could very easily be a lie, as Robotnik is a tricky bastard well known to lie and manipulate others, plus, he went out of his way to keep y from seeing b's modification after her failure to beat y. The Egg Carrier is plated with smooth steel in primarily three colours, just like the other E Series, fires individual yellow-orange shots as a form of self defence, and has a large, round green glass panel on it's deck in both forms (mirroring an E Series' eyes), which brings me to the biggest hint that Egg Carrier is an enormous E Series- it transforms. When y goes over water, runs for an extended period, or uses her Hover module, and then touches solid ground, she will automatically transform into a folded-up form with wheels, allowing for faster movement. The Egg Carrier, similarly, can be transformed at will between two different forms, one for combat/defence, and one that extends it's form and makes it more streamlined (which can be seen during Sky Deck Act II, when it will accelerate in an attempt to fling Sonic and Tails from it's wings).

In conclusion, I believe that Egg Carrier is a super airship, possibly powered by multiple small animals, with enough firepower to (supposedly) kill Perfect Chaos. It can transform between two forms, combat and mobility, and is designed similarly to the following E Series. I think that during construction on Egg Carrier, Robotnik wanted to try to compress it's power into smaller super-badniks, and thus, created the E Series.

EDIT: Apparently at one point Egg Carrier was even supposed to have a face! https://goo.gl/images/iDCVWs

EDIT EDIT: Upon closer inspection, Egg Carrier does still have a face, but it looks more like a frog smile than a classic stylized Eggman face or E Series face. I did however notice that Egg Genesis in Sonic the Hedgehog 2006 does have a really E Series-lookin' face, and I wouldn't be surprised if it was originally going to be a reference to E-105 Zeta's upgraded form, which even seems to act as a sort of core or control system for Egg Carrier, which brings a dark implication that Zeta could be a parasite taking over the mind of Egg Carrier.
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Postby AdamMalkovitch » Thu Mar 15, 2018 10:01 am

So I noticed something interesting while playing Colours, Lost World, and (watching) Forces back to back, since they're all sort of on-rails action games with 2D sections and unique gimmicks with similar physics, and I noticed that there's an End of Evangelion reference in Desert Ruins 4. During the last phase of the battle with Zomom, the enormous green and orange face mecha made of cubes (which itself could be a Gurren Lagann reference) is lying on the ground, partially buried in the sand, far in the background, with a portion of the left half of it's face missing, and Zomom using the cubes that broke off as walls to trap Sonic and fight him. I burst out laughing when I noticed the similarities to the gigantic Rei face during the finale of End of Evangelion. I wonder if there are other weeb-y references in Sonic that I've missed, besides the obvious, like Shadow being a Vegeta parallel and the whole Super Sonic/Super Saiyan thing
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Postby Gus Hanson » Sat Jun 23, 2018 4:35 pm

First game I played once I reconnected the Wii today was Colors!

I once used to dread having the difficulty of not being able to activate the Wisp power because I apparently wasn't shaking the damn controller fast enough until now. :tongue: Now I can use the ability and it's made my gaming experience much more fun and essential since you need the ability to get through certain obstacles in your way.
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Postby AdamMalkovitch » Sun Jun 24, 2018 12:01 pm

Happy belated birthday you speedy blue shitfuck. NiGHTS should have taken your place decades ago.
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