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Postby ShinjiNeverGivesUp » Fri Jun 24, 2016 5:43 pm

Was he already a total badass like he is during the main story? Was he a gentle, withdrawn boy at 14 like Shinji is? What do you think he was like?

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Postby Ray » Fri Jun 24, 2016 7:43 pm

I always point to the Angelic Days Manga when people ask this question.
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Fri Jun 24, 2016 8:08 pm

Probably very similar to the way he was in college. A brusque, standoffish loner who gets into fights. A rogue bull on a short tether, I believe Fuyutsuki callled him.
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Postby NemZ » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:10 pm

I'd bet he was a young delinquent from a broken or abusive home, possibly a single father who was always absent while diligently working in some generic office setting. The kind of kid who is smart enough to depress his teachers with his wasted potential and lack of effort. A smart kid with little guidance and no effective supervision is sure to be running with the wrong crowd, possibly even a street gang or organized crime outfit who always have uses for capable and expendable labor like that for courier tasks or unobtrusive information gathering.
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Postby Reichu » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:12 pm

View Original PostShinjiNeverGivesUp wrote:Was he already a total badass like he is during the main story?

......Was Gendo at ANY point a "total badass"?

BlueBasilisk wrote:A rogue bull on a short tether, I believe Fuyutsuki callled him.

This must be a dub thing.

At Shinji's age? "Brusque, standoffish loner who gets into fights" seems mostly on point, but I'd think he'd also be much more vulnerable and obviously Shinji-like. Like, more inclined to show emotional "weakness", rather than constantly hiding behind a sneer.

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Postby BlueBasilisk » Fri Jun 24, 2016 9:48 pm

Well, there was that time he punched Ramiel in SIRP. :lol:

The rogue bull thing is probably a dubism. Fuyutsuki says it in voice over when he first meets Gendo. The platinum transcripts say that his first impression was simply "distaste" though.

Maybe it's just the voice acting, but the younger Gendo pre-Yui's death always comes across as insufferably smug to me, like he's determined to piss off whoever he's talking to. Shinji has a couple moments where he acts like that too.
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Postby TrumpetsGo » Wed Jul 20, 2016 9:23 am

middle age?....

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Postby BC Baron » Wed Jul 20, 2016 4:10 pm

If one's age can be considered a state of mind, then I don't think Gendo ever truly was Shinji's age.
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Postby silvermoonlight » Sat Jul 23, 2016 2:35 pm

At the end of the Manga they do show a short of what Gendo was like in university were he met Yui it seemed to point to a wayward loner who was kind of cold and wants to be left alone, which made me think that he might have had come from an abusive home of some kind, I think he probably treats Shinji much like his own father treated him and I found it really sad in the manga that he just wanted nothing to do with him after Yui vanished and was very quick to shove him on to Yui's family.
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Postby ShinjiNeverGivesUp » Mon Feb 26, 2018 9:01 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:......Was Gendo at ANY point a "total badass"?


Gendo is super hardcore and cool! I first watched Eva when I was 9, and I wanted to grow up to be just like him.

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Postby C.T.1290 » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:40 pm

I bet he was like Shinji, but even more troubled.
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Postby xanderkh » Tue Feb 27, 2018 12:28 am

View Original PostShinjiNeverGivesUp wrote:Gendo is super hardcore and cool! I first watched Eva when I was 9, and I wanted to grow up to be just like him.


Gendo is probably the LAST person you want to emulate as a grown up. Sure, he seems "cool", calm, and collected, but that's because he's pretty much cast all pretense of his own humanity aside for his own goals. He's willing to sacrifice anything if it means he can get what he wants, including his own son if that's what it takes.

Trust me, if you were on the receiving end of Gendo, I don't think you'd want to be like him. :(
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Postby Stillborn » Tue Feb 27, 2018 1:16 am

View Original Postxanderkh wrote:Gendo is probably the LAST person you want to emulate as a grown up. Sure, he seems "cool", calm, and collected, but that's because he's pretty much cast all pretense of his own humanity aside for his own goals. He's willing to sacrifice anything if it means he can get what he wants, including his own son if that's what it takes.

Trust me, if you were on the receiving end of Gendo, I don't think you'd want to be like him. :(


Sure, if he was on the recivieng end. But if he growns up to be like Gendo? He would be succesfull in real world with such drive and lack of scrupules. There is no Yui or Anno to screw over various "Gendos" across the world. Politicians, CEOs... If he wanted to emulate Shinji on the other hand... He would get fucked by pretty much everyone and achieve nothing. That much at least Eva have with reality.
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Postby xanderkh » Tue Feb 27, 2018 2:10 am

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That maybe so, but history has shown time and time again that people who use such power are doomed to fall because they don't rely on anyone but themselves. That's the whole problem when everyone is playing the long-game of power, everyone wants the cake for themselves.

And the thing about Gendo's motivation? It was all towards getting Yui back, but because of his actions towards both innocent people and especially his son, Yui REJECTED him, the very person he was risking everything to "save".

And emulating Shinji? There's more than a far share of people who act like Shinji or at least behave like Shinji here on the forums themselves, and I don't think the universe is screwing them over. Myself included. :wink:
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Postby ShinjiNeverGivesUp » Tue Feb 27, 2018 3:38 am

View Original Postxanderkh wrote:Gendo is probably the LAST person you want to emulate as a grown up. Sure, he seems "cool", calm, and collected, but that's because he's pretty much cast all pretense of his own humanity aside for his own goals. He's willing to sacrifice anything if it means he can get what he wants, including his own son if that's what it takes.

Trust me, if you were on the receiving end of Gendo, I don't think you'd want to be like him. :(


No worries, I don't want to be like Gendo. This is just when I was a 3rd grader entranced by his outwardly 'cool' exterior, but too young and dumb to understand what a flawed person he is. :3

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Postby Stillborn » Tue Feb 27, 2018 8:07 am

View Original Postxanderkh wrote:And the thing about Gendo's motivation? It was all towards getting Yui back, but because of his actions towards both innocent people and especially his son, Yui REJECTED him, the very person he was risking everything to "save".

And emulating Shinji? There's more than a far share of people who act like Shinji or at least behave like Shinji here on the forums themselves, and I don't think the universe is screwing them over. Myself included. :wink:


Yui rejected Gendo because he was as much pawn in her plans as Shinji was. She never intended to get reunited with him, no matter what he would do.

As for you? Don't worry. Your EoE is apparently still to come, or there's not enough Shinji in you :tongue:
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Postby ErgoProxy » Tue Feb 27, 2018 9:55 am

Stillborn wrote:As for you? Don't worry. Your EoE is apparently still to come, or there's not enough Shinji in you :tongue:

Should I understand this line so that you already live in your post-EoE world, and still nobody have emerged back from LCL to keep you company, because you actually are Gendo? :lol:
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Postby xanderkh » Tue Feb 27, 2018 10:48 am

View Original PostStillborn wrote:As for you? Don't worry. Your EoE is apparently still to come, or there's not enough Shinji in you :tongue:


Hate to break it to you Borny, but, I already did have a kind of EoE event in my life. A long time ago. But, like Shinji, it made me a stronger more stable person. I wasn't IMMEDIATELY fixed afterwards, and it took a while for me to collect myself, but I pulled through. :) So, sorry man, I don't plan on being a depressive mess today. XD
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Postby Stillborn » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:48 am

View Original PostErgoProxy wrote:Should I understand this line so that you already live in your post-EoE world, and still nobody have emerged back from LCL to keep you company, because you actually are Gendo? :lol:

Nah. If I was Gendo, I would be in my office, exploiting shmucks for profit, instead of sitting here.

I'm more of a Shinji on an empty shore, throwing rocks in the collective mass od mankind, because there is nothing better to do in a hollow world.
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Postby xanderkh » Tue Feb 27, 2018 11:56 am

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You know, it IS possible to NOT exploit people and be the better man and HELP others. You can still be as savy as Gendo, but put your saviness to GOOD use and help others. :)
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