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Postby Ray » Wed Jan 10, 2018 12:50 am

I found this post I've been looking around for, for a while.

https://toshinorange.tumblr.com/post/16 ... st=1#notes

Why do 90's anime girls look so much better than 2000's anime girls?
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Postby Justacrazyguy » Wed Jan 10, 2018 7:43 am

View Original PostRay wrote:
Why do 90's anime girls look so much better than 2000's anime girls?


Cherry picking to the max.

How old is that post. Complaints about shading? In 2018? Did none of these people actually watch anime from the 80's and 90's? Any kind of shading is absent in most of them!

Also, I can't believe they mention proportions when the 90's gave us some of the most ugly faces in anime.

And they also mention moe and one dimensional female characters, of course.

The nostalgia googles that person is using must be of excellent quality.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Wed Jan 10, 2018 5:12 pm

I can't off-hand locate the "K-On! through the decades" picture which would be the appropriate riposte, so I'll just point at this epitome of '90s style which is used in that picture. Or we can just point at something slightly more objective.
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Postby Ray » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:51 pm

What I want to know is why do anime studios feel a size E cup size is appropriate for a 14 year old?
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Postby Chuckman » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:59 pm

Some people look at giant boobs and ask why, some people look at not giant boobs and ask, why not.

"Small" breasts on a typical anime girl are already wildly out of proportion for an actual human being, might as well commit to it. Go big or go home.

Also for the sake of being a miserable pedant, the boobs ya'll are calling e-cup are way, way bigger than an actual e-cup. Cup size is a measurement of proportion, not absolute tit volume.

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Postby robersora » Wed Jan 10, 2018 9:03 pm

View Original PostRay wrote:What I want to know is why do anime studios feel a size E cup size is appropriate for a 14 year old?


Why did Walt Disney draw a mouse with human characteristics?
The answer to those questions is not the same, but it comes from the same place. Because they don't think of it as a human being, they think of it as a cartoon.
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Japanese culture is generally more open to the idea of sexuality in media, as opposed to the puritan influenced media from the U.S. They think of media as media, not as something that defines real life - especially in (originally) fringe cultures as late night anime otaku.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Thu Jan 11, 2018 4:56 am

View Original PostRay wrote:What I want to know is why do anime studios feel a size E cup size is appropriate for a 14 year old?
I recall a previous iteration of this complaint where the general response was along the lines of "Did you never have that girl in your class at school?".
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Postby Ray » Thu Jan 11, 2018 5:14 am

Um. . . Yeah. I wouldn't know anything about that.

:whistle:

Some girls in class I could understand. But ALL the girls?
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Postby Justacrazyguy » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:46 am

View Original PostRay wrote:Some girls in class I could understand. But ALL the girls?


Unless you're watching a show heavily focused on fanservice, it's very rarely all the girls.Take a quick look at last season or even this one and check the girls. Watch shows have high amounts of girls with large tits?
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Postby Mr. Tines » Thu Jan 11, 2018 2:59 pm

Quite. Ray should name some names here.

The original complaint seemed to be calling out phenomena like Tougou's megalopolis, where there's oppai monster who stands out from the rest of the cast. There may not even be that token boob demon if the characters are all high-school students.
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Postby Ray » Thu Jan 11, 2018 6:47 pm

I still agree with the post in this regard.

http://custodialghost.tumblr.com/post/168366581904/persefones-glitchmeow-anime-why-do-anime wrote:anime girls have lost much of their visible personality over the years due to moefication. This has happened to male characters also, although to a lesser extent. Anime girls are often not allowed to make cartoonish expressions (deemed unattractive) or generally change their expressions at all barring blush lines.In producers’ efforts to make the girls attractive to the audience in every frame, they sacrifice any personality that they might have. Anime girls look increasingly similar to one another, differentiated only by their hair style and eyes. Granted, there has always been a problem with female character same-face syndrome since the conception of anime (actually, in all drawn media) but as the number of female main characters in anime has grown (Ray: and the technology has improved), ironically, the problem has only increased.

Here we have three anime girls with the same hair color you can tell apart, and several anime characters with the same haircolor you somehow can't.
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Postby Mr. Tines » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:15 pm

So I added the link that was missing.

And, oh boy where do I start, beyond saying that the author of that piece should seriously watch more anime?

I especially liked

> Here we have three anime girls with the same hair color you can tell apart
because three very different artists and art styles

>, And somehow, girls with all different colors that you can’t.
Which shows the girls from Higurashi, who themselves put the lie to the earlier assertion that

>Anime girls are often not allowed to ... change their expressions at all barring blush lines
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Postby Chuckman » Thu Jan 11, 2018 7:33 pm

Tumblr posts look like someone sat down and said, "You know what our social platform needs? The readability Twitter and the design flexibility of MySpace."

Also it's easy to tell those girls apart. I don't even need to know what show they come from. The blonde one with the big tits is the compassionate and spunky protagonist who doesn't understand her sex appeal, the one with hair the color of salmon meat is her angsty rival, and the skinny one is an obnoxious bitch that's constantly hoisted by her own petard for comic relief because only girls with big busts can feel good about themselves.

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Postby El Squibbonator » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:42 am



There was actually a chapter of ''Franken Fran'' than had pretty much that exact image as the punchline. Basically, a cosplayer wants to look exactly like her favorite anime character, so she goes to the title character (a surgeon who can do anything, pretty much) to get her body changed. But the procedure goes wrong, her hair falls out and in the end she's mistaken for an alien.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:28 pm

View Original PostGus Hanson wrote:As for the episodic formula, like I said before, my inspiration for why I think like that comes from Cartman from South Park and his burning hatred of Family Guy which extends to what the creators Trey Parker and Matt Stone have said what they really think about that show.

So, you took an argument from an episodic show about another episodic show and how episodic shows are bad, and applied it to yet another episodic show, without really distancing yourself from the episodic show from which the argument originated.

...Okay.

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Postby Ray » Sat Jan 13, 2018 9:11 pm

View Original PostEl Squibbonator wrote:There was actually a chapter of ''Franken Fran'' than had pretty much that exact image as the punchline. Basically, a cosplayer wants to look exactly like her favorite anime character, so she goes to the title character (a surgeon who can do anything, pretty much) to get her body changed. But the procedure goes wrong, her hair falls out and in the end she's mistaken for an alien.


That manga was effed up.

How effed up was it? There was a whole chapter about a bunch of perverts who get turned on by near death experiences exploiting Fran to bring them back from the dead. IT ends with Fran.

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Stitching their bodies together into a congealed John Carpenter-esque mass so they are always on the brink of death and in constant pain.
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