Anyone else feel dislike towards EoE nowadays?

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Postby TheCarkolum » Fri Sep 08, 2017 7:27 am

Cybermat47 wrote:It's the culmination of everything that was built up in NGE,

Yeah. Even though I have my problems with EoE, I have to admit that is totally true. I've never felt anything from the series left aside in EoE.
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Postby C.T.1290 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 11:12 pm

View Original PostCybermat47 wrote:I absolutely despise EoE because of how much I love it.

It's the culmination of everything that was built up in NGE, which means that:

- Shinji attempts suicide.
- Shinji sexually assaults Asuka.
- Shinji attempts to kill Asuka.
- Shinji tells Rei to destroy the individuality of every living being.
- Rei gets robbed of any chance of a normal life.
- Misato again loses control and makes sexual overtures to Shinji.
- Misato bleeds to death.
- Asuka is horrifically mutilated and torn apart.
- Asuka takes all the rage and anger from her experiences, and her conflicting feelings about Shinji, and takes them out on him, vocally and physically.
- Gendo reveals that he was always distant out of fear of hurting Shinji.
- Ritsuko loses everything and dies.
- Fuyutsuki has an unrequited love for Yui.
- Hyuga has an unrequited love for Misato.
- Maya has an unrequited love for Ritsuko.
- Aoba is truly alone in the world.
- Yui spends eternity in complete loneliness.
- The JSSDF and Nerv butcher each other due to a lie.

Fuck, why does this movie have to be so good? I hate it!

The bolded part is exactly the problem I have with Asuka.
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Postby barnett » Fri Jan 12, 2018 11:59 pm

The first time I watched it, EoE felt almost like a betrayal. But EoE is now an integral part of Evangelion for me too, something that elevated it from being an amazing anime series to a life-changing work of art. Without EoE there is no Evangelion.
While I still appreciate it, through the years the TV ending has resonated less and less with me. EoE emerged instead as the natural conclusion of the downward spiral started in e19. It is a move that, even with all its surreal settings, remains viscerally real at an emotional level, takes no shortcuts, and gives justice to each characters.

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Postby Joy Evangelion » Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:56 pm

barnett wrote:The first time I watched it, EoE felt almost like a betrayal.


Yea, I felt the same way. It messed with my head and ruined my day the first time I watched it. But now it's my favorite flick; I do believe that's the course it takes for a lot of Evageeks.

barnett wrote:Without EoE there is no Evangelion.


I'm going to have to disagree with this though. I think Neon Genesis Evangelion works perfectly on its own without End of Evangelion. No second half of any series comes anywhere close to the second half of NGE, with episodes 22-24 being particularly fantastic. I think if we lived in a world without EoE the ending of the series would be a tad hard to swallow, but I think we'd all come to be happy with it after meditating on it for a while. And I'm saying this though my favorite episode is probably 26' and I have a strong dislike of EoTV.

barnett wrote:EoE emerged instead as the natural conclusion of the downward spiral started in e19.


Doesn't the downward spiral sort of begin with Shogouki falling into Leliel in Episode 16?

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Postby Cybermat47 » Mon Jan 15, 2018 2:26 am

View Original PostJoy Evangelion wrote:Doesn't the downward spiral sort of begin with Shogouki falling into Leliel in Episode 16?


Nah, it begins as soon as the opening credits of episode 1 start.
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