If Mari and Asuka are/were Gay. . .

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Postby Microsoft_Sam » Thu Dec 07, 2017 8:33 pm

View Original PostRay wrote:Imma be honest. I did not expect this thread to explode the way it did.


Best couple Ray. XD

TBH tho, I wouldn't really care that much. I'm more worried about SJW's and mad feminists going nuts in celebration over it becoming canon.
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Postby Settie » Fri Dec 08, 2017 6:15 pm

Personally i don't see it, far too little interaction to make assumptions. That being said though, this reminds me of one of my biggest pet peeves i have when it comes to shipping. That character X spends time with character Y (whether by choice or not) then that means they're into each other, and i see it being applied to both homo and hetero relations.

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Postby BlueBasilisk » Fri Dec 08, 2017 7:03 pm

If they are, they are. If they're not, they're not. Same with Shinji and Kaworu. I like the relationship because I could see them being good counterbalances for each other but I would think a romantic relationship would be pretty low on anyone's list of priorities at this point in the story so I don't expect anything to come from it one way or the other.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Fri Dec 08, 2017 11:22 pm

View Original PostMicrosoft_Sam wrote:I'm more worried about SJW's and mad feminists going nuts in celebration over it becoming canon.


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Postby Ray » Sat Dec 09, 2017 1:32 am

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:So what if they do? Did the Korrasami Confirmation end the world?

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Postby silvermoonlight » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:11 am

View Original PostGuy Nacks wrote:So what if they do? Did the Korrasami Confirmation end the world?


Also there is nothing wrong with good gay/bi/trans representation since bad gay representation is still a problem in media as gay characters are still way more likely to die on screen than heterosexual ones and don't often get happy endings and at worst can be queer coded as villains.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Sat Dec 09, 2017 5:30 am

You'd have more to worry about with Eva being ruined by the influence of FanFic writers than you would SJWs. (Not that I mind FanFics, but the best part of Anno is his subversion of audience expectations, FanFic writers included.) There's much within the original NGE that adheres closely to what is traditionally considered Western Second-Wave Feminism (especially with characters like Misato, Ritsuko, and Maya), so at this point "SJW-esque" themes are already essential to Eva's core appeal.

Again, so what if Mari and Asuka are gay? (For each other.) So what that Maya was gay for Ritsuko? So what that Misato was straight for Kaji?

Just... so what?

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Postby Microsoft_Sam » Sat Dec 09, 2017 7:03 pm

Sorry. That was my political opinion coming out.
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Postby airman4 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:58 pm

For Mari and Asuka being together

Maybe but look at this pic lol


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That could be a gigantic twist

Well , my guess is mari is way older than she wants us to think

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Postby Sachi » Sun Dec 10, 2017 5:27 pm

Actually, there is a theory that the woman with the glasses is both Asuka and Mari’s mother.

Which makes the ship incest. You nasties. :shifty:
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Postby Guy Nacks » Sun Dec 10, 2017 8:37 pm

This has been my theory over the past several years and I know I've posted about it a few times here.

What I believe is that Mari actually knew Yui and Gendo and is older than she appears to be. Mari also refers to Gendo as "Gendo-Kun" in 3.0, which implies some sort of bond beyond him just being her (former) boss. Her body has been kept youthful due to the Curse of Eva. The woman in the photo is Mari and she was instrumental in the creation of the Evangelions. This explains how she knew how to engage ZA BEASTO mode in 2.0.
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Postby imprimatur13 » Sun Dec 10, 2017 9:13 pm

I see this thread is drifting dangerously close to actual serious Evangelion theories, so might as well throw my opinion in, try to prevent us from drifting more off-topic. ^_^
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Again, so what if Mari and Asuka are gay?

I actually loved episode 24 (if you know me at all, you know this at least). The reason I loved it so much, was that I could see that Shinji was now a harem protagonist, to a certain extent. I mean, he had Misato, Rei (all 3 of them), Asuka... and I was totally and completely flabbergasted when he seemed to be officially shipped with a male.

I was so happy... I thought it was literally the funniest thing I had ever seen. Ship-tease with 3 girls, and then, finally, stick him with another boy in a fantastic defiance of audience expectations. It made me so, so happy, in so many ways....

I perhaps might prefer if Mari were gay, and not Asuka herself, but that's just me. I think I would enjoy it more that way; find the on-screen dynamics more interesting. (Perhaps a bit more 24-like?)
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Postby Microsoft_Sam » Wed Jan 10, 2018 6:34 am

View Original PostMr. Jive wrote:One half(most male) want her to whit a guy who violent, selfish and treat female like crap. While the other half(most female ) want her to be whit a girl who more more dangerous and crazy then she is. Neither are good choices for her. I don't know how anyone can go around saying anything romantic was going on between her and Shinji when it the most toxic relationship in the anime and movies.

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When is strangling someone consider romantic? And then there this look on her face after she call him a liar.
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That face of girl who see Shinji for what he really is and don't want anything to do whit him.

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Does this look romantic to anyone? I don't know why people can't accept this two will never get along.

Putting her whit mari would be no better. Mari just a useless character who there just for a sake of having another female pilot around just to get fans to watch the movie. Her and Asuka don't even seem to like each other. Mari don't have any friends nor care about anyone else either. They only put up whit each other just due to both them being eva pilots. There only been one person who ever had any romantic feelings for Asuka
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It may have been in the manga but that as close your gonna get to anyone having any real romantic feeling for Asuka. Kensuke maybe a bit odd but he a lot better and healthy choice then the people everyone else want her to be whit. Asuka is trouble girl that needs help and putting her whit people who are worst than she is wont help her get better. Anyone who watch the series knows kensuke is the type of guy who like to help people, he help Shinji so why not let him help Asuka too?


What is your problem with Shinji? There is little to no evidence that he treats Females with anything but respect (EOE hospital scene not withstanding). Kensuke could be even more depraved than you claim Shinji to be, I mean taking photos of schoolgirls and selling them without concent. You think Shinji is Ghetsis reincarnated or even Frieza?
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Postby Chuckman » Wed Jan 10, 2018 4:20 pm

Asuka like fire. Mari like raging fire.


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