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Postby Shogo-Kun » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:15 pm

AVATAR II:The Quickening? Is that supposed to be a EVANGELION: 3.0 reference? With these forums, I really can't tell anymore...
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Postby THE Hal E. Burton 9000 » Mon Mar 28, 2011 2:27 pm

^no, it's a Highlander reference
View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Dude, if Arnold is in AVATAR II I'll friggin' watch it opening night in 3-D theaters!
I won't if Avatar II ends up being the same, uninvolving story as the first
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:21 pm

View Original PostTHE Hal E. Burton 9000 wrote:I won't if Avatar II ends up being the same, uninvolving story as the first

I would have enjoyed it much, much more if the movie wasn't so long. I might have even reacted to the shallow characters a little better if the movie was only 90 - 120 minutes. It wouldn't have been perfect, but still.

UPDATE EDIT: James Cameron is getting others to help him write the script for AVATAR 2.

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Postby Ray » Mon Dec 26, 2016 3:23 pm

Reviving this thread to talk about this, because it's blowing up Youtube right now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URSOqWtLix4

First viewing of James Camerons 'World of AVATAR' attraction at Disney's Animal Kingdom. Which will feature state of the art animatronics you've never seen before. All to duplicate Pandora here on earth.

I wonder if they'll try to fit this into the narrative of the movie somehow. Like this is a duplication of what was seen on the newly discovered world of Pandora. Making it seem like you're in the movie.

I thought the movie was just okay. But I'm actually looking forward to this. Getting the experience of actually being on an alien world? Count me in.
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Postby TheCarkolum » Fri Nov 17, 2017 10:57 pm

Oh, what a mixed-feelings movie. Even to this day I can't tell whether this movie is average, mediocre or plainly bad. The thing is, James Cameron is a genius... by tricking you into thinking what you're watching is any good. He did the same with Titanic. Here it's the same, but with even better disguise. You got a whole new world and the movie spends its time on getting you in. It does it... for 2 hours. And it's not like Spirited Away, when the atmosphere sucks you in till death but it helps you to get the characters, the places and the plot. Here, when you are hanging around Pandora, the plot is left aside. TOTALLY. And that's a big issue. Idk if it's the biggest, because there are so many problems in this movie. I mean, too many. First, the characters. Underdeveloped, archetypical ad nauseam, underutilized. The only characters I've ever rooted for are Neytiri and Sigourney weaver, and even these characters have inconsistencies and BS. Sam Worthington's acting is bad, bad, bad, and its character is forgettable. Second, the pacing. The extended version is almost 3 hours long, and didn't need too. Why? Because it's a simplistic plot full of dull moments of "atmosphere". Yes, atmosphere is necessary, but in this movie gets really old. And even when the plot is moving forward it makes no sense most of the times.
Third, the plot. Forget Pocahontas (which is worse than Avatar). This plot is bad constructed and thoughtless. It's so obvious that Cameron focused on perfecting the CG (which is amazing and groundbreaking, by the way) and neglected the script. I mean, how can you fuck up the easiest plot ever? You got everything in Avatar: plot contrivances, plot holes, etc. Example: the military forces acting like retards the whole movie, attacking the Na'vi unprotected and letting them to rally.
And the other thing that sucks balls in this movie is the romance. Bland and cliche. I could not stand Neytiri when she forgives Sully for bringing a giant bird to the clan. That was cliche, bland and stupid, and somehow kills the entire relationship. And don't come up with the Turuk Makto thing, it is stupid.
These problems are considerable. It's sad because this movie had potential. Some good things? Well the visual aspect. Looks huge, colorful, amusing and well produced. The bioluminiscent forest is amazing. Also the sound design is OK. Neytiri as a character is interesting too. She is fierce, sensitive and responsible. I also think Zoe Saldana was perfectly casted. The way she moves, cries and talks is very well crafted. The acting is decent... sometimes. Some are good, some are not.The direction is pretty competent and enhances the visual enjoyment. But that would be all.

Actually this movie is not a peace of shit, don't get me wrong.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Sat Nov 18, 2017 12:12 am

Avatar, for all the money it made, is far and away Cameron's weakest film IMO. I saw it twice in theaters and liked it, but it's had next to no rewatch value for me after the fact. Aside from the groundbreaking CGI work, the plot and characters are too derivative to be interesting.

Titanic, while it had a similar cookie cutter plot, had a lot more tension and thrills with brilliant practical effects work that stands the test of time. I also liked the framing device of the film and the characters more than in Avatar--they seemed more personable...except for Billy Zane, who kinda goes into mustache-twirling territory. For all the backlash that Titanic started to get in the mid 00's, I think it still deserves praise.

RedLetterMedia also made a Plinkett review of Titanic that completely nails why it will ultimately go down as being more respectable than Avatar.

Cameron is objectively a masterful filmmaker and though the need for more Avatar films leaves a lot to be desired, his overall filmography is a testament that any film he directs will be worth seeing.
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