Sachi wrote:Another way to look at the question is how the films get away with being successful
despite being bad.
How successful are they?
not that I agree they're bad
In fairness, I've never really looked at the films and rated them as stand alone films. In a vaccum, they're alright as a whole: two decent movies followed by a sub-par third installment.
However, as it's a reboot, I think it's fair judge it based on how it compares to the original work it serves as a reboot for. And you'll be very hardpressed to argue that comparison ends as a very favorable one.
by Asuka'sBigBrother » Thu Oct 26, 2017 12:38 amAnyway, here's a much better critique of the films I agree much with:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFultzPN7nUhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ffVesUI188gIt helps he doesn't try to characterize those who disagree with him as idiots.
by Asuka'sBigBrother » Thu Oct 26, 2017 2:43 amFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:I don't think dissenters of NTE are expecting a series as long as NGE. Rather, they're expecting to complain about a series that's shorter than NGE.
This whole, "they didn't have enough time to create deep characters" excuse doesn't work when they did have enough time to add a bunch of pointless characters who don't actually contribute or add anything meaningful to the story, add a drawn out and incredibly shallow rom-com bit, and over the top action scenes which often don't actually add anything meaningful to the story.
Quality over quantity becomes especially important when you're trying to create a streamlined version of something. And yet, Anno decided it was more important to make everything "Bigger and more epic" rather than develop his characters.
The issue isn't that the NTE is streamlined, the issue is
how NTE decided to stream line things.
I'm also, not sure why it's wrong to compare a reboot to the original. The narrative purpose of a reboot is to replace the original.
Accordingly, a reboot's quality is dependent on what it adds or fixes from an original story and what it takes away. When you make a reboot, you shouldn't expect it to be judged the same way as a stand-alone movie, or even a sequel or prequel.