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Postby ElMariachi » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:18 am

View Original PostRosenakahara wrote:However as the extra chapter of the manga does point out he did have an exceptional amount of willpower and knew what he wanted, as all the people who tried to mimic him after ended up killing themselves.

That or he was a sociopath that couldn't feel the guilt of his actions, unlike the other people that followed him.
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Postby Rosenakahara » Sat Jan 03, 2015 9:29 am

One or the other, probably both.
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Postby Fireball » Sat Jan 03, 2015 11:32 am

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:Well, you said that DN is a story about "someone with good intention being corrupted by power", except that although he did targeted criminals, he made it clear that it was just to gain the support of the public, and very quickly he started to consider as "criminal" even petty delinquents or even lazy people.

Part of the plan was to make criminals aware there is someone who will strike them down. Everything that followed was because he was on a power trip thanks to the Death Note. Also, the consideration of lazy people comes much later towards the end but I won't even acknowledge the second half as canon so retarded the story was at that point.
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Postby ElMariachi » Sat Jan 03, 2015 6:46 pm

View Original PostFireball wrote:Part of the plan was to make criminals aware there is someone who will strike them down.

Indeed, so that criminals will stop their activities by fear of instant death and the people will worship Kira as an all-seeing and all-powerful being. Even the first part of the plan was part of his powertrip.
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Postby Dream » Wed Jan 07, 2015 5:46 pm

Been a long time since i've watched Death Note but i always thought it was intentional on the authors's part that you couldn't quite tell where Light's dedication to an ideal world of complete/righteous justice began and where Kira's bloodshed and power fantasies ended. Also, it was subtle but i'm pretty sure the Death Note was presented as having some "demonic" or corrupting power on anyone who so much as touched it. It's probably why in the final episode

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When Light is running away into his dying place we get various flashbacks to the nice kid he was before stumbling into the Death Note, culminating in crossing paths with his student self the day before discovering the Death Note


Plus, there was a marked difference in how he behaved in the Yotsuba arc when he had his memories as Kira erased and didn't touch the Death Note and the rest of the series. Regardless it was clear from the first episode's conclusion that the anime was most likely not going to end well. Maybe it was just a gut feeling.

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Postby EvangelionGodMode » Thu Jan 08, 2015 12:49 am

They need to remake this anime with a different ending.
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It was so good to start off with Light and L's battle, then the shit hit the fan and Ryuk left Light, therefore Light became a pussy for the rest of the show. And then somehow gets outsmarted by L's sidekicks. The last episode with Light going back to his dark side was so refreshing, unfortunately he got outsmarted by copycat character and killed by an underdeveloped side character, not a way to go out.
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Postby WunderBah » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:16 pm

Is the second half in the manga less dog shit than the Anime's take on it? Since the adaption of it was apparently rushed and all.

Death Note could've been so much more...

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Postby ElMariachi » Fri Jan 09, 2015 8:44 pm

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As a general consensus the second part is far inferior to the first one, no matter the support.
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Postby Defectron » Fri Jan 09, 2015 10:56 pm

View Original PostWunderBah wrote:Is the second half in the manga less dog shit than the Anime's take on it? Since the adaption of it was apparently rushed and all.

Death Note could've been so much more...


Yeah it was better in the manga as it was less rushed, but it was still inferior to the parts of the manga where Light was against L.
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Postby TheCarkolum » Fri Sep 08, 2017 8:08 am

I agree that the ending of Death Note was pretty rushed, but I don't dislike it at all. Light was so full of himself and so confident that, when he realized he fuckd it up, he panics and became the psychopath pussy he always was. I also like Matsuda killing him, because he proved that not only is a funny guy, but someone who firmly believes in good and is ready to kill if he's pissed off. But the problem of the ending is the Near's plan. I mean, doesn't have much sense to me. IIUC, Near was going to fall in Light's plan, but Mello warned him that Takada could kill (??) and, because of that, he started to think there is a fake note. First of all, why? I mean, maybe Takada had some pages of Mikami's note or something. Idk how that implies that there is a fake note. Whatever, then Mikami goes to the bank in a strange day, and Giovanni finds out Mikami wrote Takada's name. So, he finds out that note was real. So, he changes the note for a fake one. He also changes previously some empty pages of Mikami fake note, so that nobody dies in the day 28.

1. If they are empty pages, how Mikaki knows they are fake?

2. What Mello concretely knows about the Death Note to warn N?

3. How N knows that there is a fake note with the information of Mello?

4. How Giovanni knows that the note locked in the bank is real and not the fake note he changed the pages? I mean, maybe Mikami doesn't know and wrote the name Takada in the fake note. I mean, he didn't because he knows it's fake, but Giovanni could think that.
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Postby The Eva Monkey » Thu Sep 28, 2017 7:28 am

Earlier this month, I was listening to YMS's talk about the Netflix Death Note movie. Naturally, ranting about how awful it is lead to gushing about how much they loved the anime series. I watched the initial few episodes back in college, and remember liking what I saw. And so my wife and I got ourselves hooked and barreled through the show over the past 2-3 weeks.

Death Note is a solid show. I don't think it's something I would rewatch, but I'm glad I watched it at least once. The first third was definitely really enjoyable, and the final third definitely felt a bit rushed. I think my favorite moment in the series was where Rem tells Misa about Gelus. It was brief, but I found it moving, and really interesting, an aspect of the world that I feel they could have explored more.


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