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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:26 am

I have zero hopes for a teaser. I don't think Khara would just unceremoniously drop something like that anytime in the near future. Now if Khara & the official Evangelion website start hyping up a showing of 3.0 on Japanese TV that will could complete with a new post-credits teaser.

Otherwise the only major thing I think we'll be getting in the rest of 2017 is a new graphic with the full title.

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Postby Ray » Thu Aug 31, 2017 11:32 am

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:Otherwise the only major thing I think we'll be getting in the rest of 2017 is a new graphic with the full title.


Now THAT would suck.
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Postby Joseki » Thu Aug 31, 2017 2:13 pm

If today passes without any news, and I think it will, the next hot date is New Year's Eve, if that too passes without news then I don't know but I still expect the movie in 2018, I don't think that they would release a poster and merchandise more than two years before the release date.

View Original PostRay wrote:Now THAT would suck.


I disagree, the international title contains the meaning of the movie, it's huge news.
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Postby kuribo-04 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:30 pm

View Original PostGendo'sPapa wrote:I have zero hopes for a teaser. I don't think Khara would just unceremoniously drop something like that anytime in the near future.

Would it be that strange though?
The poster came kinda out of nowhere. The poster is no teaser trailer, but it's still pretty big.
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Postby Joseki » Thu Aug 31, 2017 5:58 pm

The poster came exactly 1 year after Shin Godzilla, it wasn't casual.
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Postby Kamon-san » Thu Aug 31, 2017 7:14 pm

When I first saw pictures of Evangelion all those years ago, I falsely believed the story featured the teenage characters living in the ruins of a post-apocalyptic world. It was during a time where I had no internet to verify how accurate my initial vision of the show was simply based on a few pieces of artwork. I remember picturing Shinji, Rei and Asuka walking through the ruins of a city, surrounded by strange remnants of creatures (caracasses, I suppose?)

Seeing the poster and the setting the last movie (apparently) will take place in, I can't help but get an inexplicable feeling. It's like a mix of nostalgia and awe, as if the vision I originally had of Eva all those years ago finally took shape.

I always wondered if anyone ever went through the same experience. I guess the odds of that are pretty slim; you not only would've had to stumble across the same few promotional artworks I did back then (I think back to a drawing of Rei in her plugsuit standing in front of a decrepit wall, and a younger Shinji sitting in front of a flooded city), but also have had no access to the internet for a while to let your imagination run wild simply based on these pictures. ;P

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Postby kuribo-04 » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:59 pm

∆ Love stories like that.

The poster came exactly 1 year after Shin Godzilla, it wasn't casual.


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Postby CommanderFish » Sat Sep 02, 2017 12:47 am

^^ Must be crazy to go through something like that. Like Evangelion's destiny is finally being fulfilled, or something. :tongue:

Also, about the poster itself: I find it interesting that the words "NOT" and "ANTI" are very alike, while the phrases "After that" and "THE END" -- lack of grammatical consistency aside -- are seemingly opposite to each other. If we change "After that" into something like "the continuation"; we have instead "The continuation" and "THE END", which I think would make a little more sense. But either way you look at it, it's still very odd. Are the words "NOT" and "ANTI" in-fact opposites despite their initial similarity? Or are the phrases "After that" and "THE END" in-fact equal despite their initial opposition? Or does any of this have any relevance at all in the first place? :think:

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Postby ErgoProxy » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:13 am

Well, this can lead us in wrong direction... but isn't "the end" the standard Japanese replacement for "death"? Perhaps other words used in the poster should be seen as similar euphemisms to avoid bad luck.

I don't know what scary could be expressed with "after that/continue". But the second phrase reminds me of the liberum veto, a political institution being expression of the will of individual going against the will of the gathering and breaking it, as the gathering requires unanimity of its members to issue any valid resolutions.
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Postby Reichu » Sat Sep 02, 2017 2:17 am

View Original PostCommanderFish wrote:Also, about the poster itself: I find it interesting that the words "NOT" and "ANTI" are very alike, while the phrases "After that" and "THE END" -- lack of grammatical consistency aside -- are seemingly opposite to each other.

Helps to compare the English renditions to the original Japanese to see what was meant. Thoughts on NOT/ANTI here. Re: "After that"/"The End" -- the former is indeed referring to "continuation", so the simplest interpretation IMO is that this is just telling us what we already know, that 3+1 is both a continuation (following on from 3.0) and the ending (final entry).
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Postby The Cruel » Sat Sep 02, 2017 1:45 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:Helps to compare the English renditions to the original Japanese to see what was meant. Thoughts on NOT/ANTI here. Re: "After that"/"The End" -- the former is indeed referring to "continuation", so the simplest interpretation IMO is that this is just telling us what we already know, that 3+1 is both a continuation (following on from 3.0) and the ending (final entry).


That's what I meant all the damn time! How would you split a story that's three acts long into four films? You just simply split the last act into two. The title for the fourth film is as obvious as it gets, that it complements and rounds up the third and last act that started with 3.0. 3.0 is only the beginning of what can happen in 3.0+1.0, even what was in the previews, from which nothing was shown in the actual film, could be shown in one way or the other in 3.0+1.0. And even if the film would've been named FINAL, it would still be the second half of the last act of the Jo-Ha-Kyu. If the last film would be named 4.0, that would ruin the indication that the story is three acts long. And actually, because 3.0+1.0 continiues and ends the Kyu act from 3.0, it wouldn't even need a subtitle, 'cause with 3.0/Kyu, the end has just begun.
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Postby CommanderFish » Sun Sep 03, 2017 12:23 am

Reichu wrote:Re: "After that"/"The End" -- the former is indeed referring to "continuation", so the simplest interpretation IMO is that this is just telling us what we already know, that 3+1 is both a continuation (following on from 3.0) and the ending (final entry).

Oh that's without a doubt the simplest interpretation. Which is exactly why I wonder if there's more to it than meets the eye.

The Cruel wrote:And even if the film would've been named FINAL, it would still be the second half of the last act of the Jo-Ha-Kyu. If the last film would be named 4.0, that would ruin the indication that the story is three acts long. And actually, because 3.0+1.0 continiues and ends the Kyu act from 3.0, it wouldn't even need a subtitle, 'cause with 3.0/Kyu, the end has just begun.

Except the trouble is that "Q" technically stands for "Quickening", not "Kyu". But obviously there's a dual meaning here, right? And by extension, perhaps for 3.0+1.0's poster too, hmmMMmm?
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Postby cyharding » Sun Sep 03, 2017 9:25 pm

View Original PostThe Cruel wrote:That's what I meant all the damn time! How would you split a story that's three acts long into four films? You just simply split the last act into two. The title for the fourth film is as obvious as it gets, that it complements and rounds up the third and last act that started with 3.0. 3.0 is only the beginning of what can happen in 3.0+1.0, even what was in the previews, from which nothing was shown in the actual film, could be shown in one way or the other in 3.0+1.0. And even if the film would've been named FINAL, it would still be the second half of the last act of the Jo-Ha-Kyu. If the last film would be named 4.0, that would ruin the indication that the story is three acts long. And actually, because 3.0+1.0 continiues and ends the Kyu act from 3.0, it wouldn't even need a subtitle, 'cause with 3.0/Kyu, the end has just begun.


That would confirm the theory I've read here a while a go that there was to be more in 3.0 than what we got. It makes me wonder of when the final movie comes out on home video, we would have to buy the 3.0 content all over again.

Okay, serious question about something I read earlier in the thread. Why is it that people expect news on the last movie on anniversary of particular events of the franchise's release, such the 10th anniversary of 1.0's release. Have they done something like that before? I'm thinking that we'll get the news whenever they deem it, regardless of dates. The only one that seems plausible to expect something is on New Years, and that's because it's tradition in Japan for the anime & manga industry (and perhaps businesses in Japan as a rule) to send cards to their fans.

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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Mon Sep 04, 2017 6:19 am

View Original PostCommanderFish wrote:Except the trouble is that "Q" technically stands for "Quickening", not "Kyu". But obviously there's a dual meaning here, right? And by extension, perhaps for 3.0+1.0's poster too, hmmMMmm?

Yeah, Anno's work has had bi-lingual double meanings in his Eva titles before ("The Beast That Shouted "I" ["Love"] At The Heart Of The World"), and the parenthetical "Not" throughout the entire New Eva series suggests alternate meanings to its respective titles. Heck, even the booklet to 3.33 itself still refers to the Jo/Ha/Kyu narrative structure while calling itself "Eva Q." I think it can mean both things.

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Postby KRandMJ » Mon Sep 04, 2017 10:26 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:Yeah, Anno's work has had bi-lingual double meanings in his Eva titles before ("The Beast That Shouted "I" ["Love"] At The Heart Of The World")



Are the bi-lingual double-meaning-titles more apparent in the original Japanese? (compared to the English version)
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Tue Sep 05, 2017 9:05 am

The Japanese word for "Love" is a homophone to the English word "I". Anno used the English word "I" while referencing the title to a short story entitled "The Beast That Shouted Love At The Heart Of The World."

The implication there might be that Shinji cannot love anyone unless he can first love himself, and that regaining individuality after Instrumentality starts with Shinji reconstructing his own self ego, or, realizing "myself" or "I".


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