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Postby Bagheera » Fri May 19, 2017 10:11 am

I have no issue with the uniforms, since they look like actual military uniforms. I appreciated Enterprise for giving the crew uniforms that seemed halfway plausible, just as I appreciated the TOS movies which likewise at least gave lip service to something resembling a dress uniform. But the fact is that Starfleet seems to change up their uniforms ever few years, so this is no biggie.

Press releases have explicitly stated that this show is set in the prime timeline, so there's no point speculating about that.

As for the rest, we'll have to wait and see. It at least looks good so far, and I like what I've seen of the cast. Not much to work with beyond that.
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Postby jcmoorehead » Fri May 19, 2017 10:22 am

View Original Postcyharding wrote:Other than what we see in Generations, I thought there wasn't anymore said about B. Am I mistaken here.


There wasn't it pretty much launched and got blown up, that's why I think it'd be interesting to see how things might have panned out differently for it in the alternate timeline. Didn't really mean too much more than that really, just be interesting to see if maybe there was a knock on effect on the other Enterprise variants.

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Postby silvermoonlight » Fri May 19, 2017 10:42 am

View Original Postcyharding wrote:It's Patrick Stewart. What the hell are you are going to do? :shrug:


Use there imagination create possible new holodeck plays based on our themes and ideas which are relevant to our world in the present plus its an alternative universe Shakespeare might not be a famous writer and WW2 might not have happened world earths history could be very really different. Don't get me wrong I love Patrick Stewart and I love him in NG and I am in no way poking at him more the writers for missing an opportunity to make up new stories and creative ideas.

If there clever about it they could poke fun at fantasy literature I mean even in the originals series I always found it weird that no one wanted to fight a dragon on the holodeck like I would think if most people had a holodeck the first thing they'd want to do is play out there childhood fantasies be they killing dragons or seeing dinosaurs in the flesh.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:48 pm

Well according to this article from screen rant, it appears the main character of Discovery is Spock's maternal half-sister. Now, this was the issue I had with them using a point in time so close to the original - using the big names of the TOS crew to draw in a crowd. Now, being a separate show from TOS, they had an opportunity to separate themselves from TOS and be an independent show with a new set of characters, however, they go and do this, and basically make a show about Spock's relative, which explains why the captain of the ship (whichever fucking ship they end up on anyway) isn't the main character. Total copout on their part.

Not to mention the last time we had a relative of Spock show up, the Enterprise went and met fucking God (or some such bullshit), so this is clearly not a road that should be gone down again.

Also, the fact that they're telling us the retcon will "eventually" make sense is all well and good, but that just sounds like an excuse for whatever outlandish shit they have planned. Just because Spock didn't mention a sister before means we need to add one just for the sake of marketing and getting people interested in the shown and I expect some half-assed Spock cameo sometime in the first season, whether it be a childhood Spock from a flashback, or a younger Spock from his time on the Enterprise pre-Kirk (see TOS' "The Cage" for more details). Hell, we may even see the actual pre-Kirk Enterprise with Captain Pike in command. Again, total copout.
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Postby Guy Nacks » Fri Aug 25, 2017 10:46 pm

So, a new trailer just dropped for Discovery...and it contains a rather interesting bit of information about what we're in for:

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I have no idea what to make of this series having a TV-MA rating. I'm not necessarily against it, but this could be terrible if handled the wrong way.
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Postby DarkBluePhoenix » Sun Aug 27, 2017 10:24 pm

Well, considering not even the movies have pushed that far, I'm expecting something like Sons of Anarchy in space. I mean, haven't all the shows been rated PG till now?

To put some current crime shows in perspective NCIS and its spin-offs, Law and Order and its spinoffs, and even the new Hawaii Five-0 all have TV-14 ratings, which include a moderate amount of blood, gore, and explosions for cable TV, and I'm fairly sure the JJ-verse has all been in the PG-13 range for ratings. Hell, even Battlestar Galactica had a TV-14 rating (barring a few scenes which were rated TV-MA). So, unless they're going to be swearing or literally gutting people in the show (which SoA had a lot of), I don't really see the need for the rating boost to cover that much. TV-14 should be plenty if they want to make it darker without going full on SoA or some other TV-MA show. I see them sort of over using this extra room and adding excessive gore to show which should be about exploration, especially considering its named Discovery, which is starting to look like a misleading title.


EDIT: I found this article online where the showrunner says they generally won't go above PG-13 (and I assume he means TV-14 but I digress...), but they want to push the envelope a bit yet still have a family friendly show. Honestly, it sounds like this show is a disaster waiting to happen, and they really don't have a solid direction yet as to what they actually want.
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