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Re: 1001 Animated Films To Check Out (A Community Project)

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Postby FrDougal9000 » Tue May 23, 2017 9:55 am


And we're back with more films added to the list! Not much else to say in terms of what's been added, since there hasn't been a substantial increase or a milestone beaten like the last couple of updates. Still, for all those interested, here's the list of films added to the list:

. Clock Cleaners (1937), dir. Ben Sharpsteen -- JM
. Ferdinand the Bull (1938), dir. Dick Rickard -- ILDC

. Donald Duck: Donald's Crime (1945), dir. Jack King -- JM

. The Story of a Crime/Istoriya odnogo prestupleniya (1962), dir. Fyodor Khitruk -- JM

. Winnie-the-Pooh and a Day of Concerns/Винни-Пух и день забот (1972), dir. Fyodor Khitruk & G. Sokolsky -- JM

. Roger Rabbit: Tummy Trouble (1989), dir. Rob Minkoff, Frank Marshall (live-action) -- ILDC

. Roger Rabbit: Rollercoaster Rabbit (1990), dir. Rob Minkoff, Frank Marshall (live-action) -- ILDC
. Roger Rabbit: Trail Mix-Up (1993), dir. Barry Cook -- ILDC

. Vampire Hunter D: Bloodlust (2000), dir. Yoshiaki Kawajiri -- JM
. Monsters, Inc. (2001), dir. Pete Docter -- ILDC
. Finding Nemo (2003), dir. Andrew Stanton -- ILDC
. Robots (2005), dir. Chris Wedge -- ILDC
. Dōbutsu no Mori (2006), dir. Jōji Shimura -- ILDC

. Little Boat (2011), dir. Nelson Boles -- JM
. Kagemono: The Shadow Folk (2012), dir. Sabrina Cotugno -- JM
. Maggie Simpson in "The Longest Daycare" (2012), dir. David Silverman -- ILDC
. Tumbleweed Tango (2013), dir. Samuel Stephens & Chris Wolfgang Mauch -- JM
. Mickey Mouse: Croissant de Triomphe (2013), dir. Paul Rudish -- ILDC
. Motorbike (2014), dir. Ari Gibson & Jason Pamment -- JM
. Blackford Manor (2014), dir. Jiwook Kim -- ILDC
. GTA V is BORING (2014), dir. CatFat -- JM
. A Single Life (2014), dir. Marieke Blaauw, Joris Oprins, Job Roggeveen -- ILDC
. Piper (2016), dir. Alan Barillaro -- ILDC

Now, onto clearing up the matter of whether or not puppet movies (in the style of Jim Henson, for instance) should be included onto the list. I've asked a few people on the subject, and there was an article I stumbled across that went pretty deep into the subject: Puppetry is Not Animation. On thinking about it, a bigger part of me feels that these kind of puppet movies count as live-action than they count as animation, simply because I feel that the puppets are being moved about in real time compared to being photographed frame-by-frame.

That might be a cheap justification for it, though I suppose there's the idea of changing the name of the project to 1001 Animated and Puppetry Films You Should Watch. I'm open to the idea of coming back to this topic and reevaluating it somewhere down the line, but for now, I'm not going to count them. Sorry to the guy who kept suggesting them. Now, for this update's film I'm uncertain about:

Shenmue: The Movie (2001), dir. Yu Suzuki (presumably)

This is perhaps one of the strangest films I've come across. Back in 2001, presumably in an attempt to catch people up to speed for the upcoming sequel and also make some money back on this expensive project, SEGA decided take their Dreamcast cult classic Shenmue and turn it into a movie. Literally. They filmed a playthrough of the game and edited major cutscenes, gameplay sections and whatnot into a semi-coherent 90 minute film summing up the plot of the original. You may remember this was included as a bonus disk with the Xbox version of Shenmue II.

The existence of this film fascinates me to no end. Yes, it's pretty much the same as those cutscene compilations you can find of most games on YouTube these days, but I'm staggered at how someone at SEGA went to the effort of recording gameplay, removing HUD elements, and trying their damnedest to make this come off as its own movie. I kinda want to include it simply for how bewildering this movie is, but I happily admit that it is a tarted up collection of gameplay and cutscenes that SEGA put into Japanese theatres for cash(!). I won't blame anyone who says this shouldn't get in, but I thought I'd ask for y'all thoughts on the topic anyway and see where this goes.

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Re: 1001 Animated Films To Check Out (A Community Project) - UPDATED 28/MAY/2017

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Postby FrDougal9000 » Sun May 28, 2017 5:41 am


Pretty much the same business as usual with this update; a few more shorts and films added to the list, some of which I came across by checking out a few lists someone recommended to me a while back! There was quite a few genuine surprises in watching these shorts, and I'd urge you to check out some of what's been included today (especially anything from the frankly fantastic 2013 run of Mickey Mouse shorts):

. Lonesone Ghosts (1937), dir. Burt Gillett -- ILDC

. Inspiration/Inspirace (1948), dir. Karel Zeman -- JM

. Neighbours (1952), dir. Norman McLaren -- JM
. Merry Melodies: Duck Dodgers in the 24½th Century (1952/3), dir. Chuck Jones -- ILDC
. Merry Melodies: One Froggy Evening (1955), dir. Chuck Jones -- ILDC
. Looney Tunes: Show Biz Bugs (1957), dir. Friz Freleng -- ILDC
. Merry Melodies: Robin Hood Daffy (1958), dir. Chuck Jones -- ILDC

. Story Time (1968), dir. Terry Gilliam -- JM

. Banjo the Woodpile Cat (1979), dir. Don Bluth -- JM

. Anna and Bella (1984), dir. Borge Ring -- JM

. The Big Story (1994), dir. Tim Watts & David Stoten -- JM
. Tale About The Cat and The Moon (1995), dir. Pedro Serrazina -- JM
. Wat's Pig (1996), dir. Peter Lord -- JM
. Neon Genesis Evangelion: Take care of yourself (1996), dir. Kazuya Tsurumaki & MASAYUKI, Hideaki Anno
. Pearl Jam: Do the Evolution (1998), dir. Kevin Altieri & Todd McFarlane -- PC

. The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy: Little Rock of Horrors (2002), dir. Robert Alvarez -- JM
. The Man With No Shadow/L'hoome sans ombre (2004), dir. Georges Schwizgebel -- JM
. Pale Cocoon (2006), dir. Yasuhiro Yoshiura -- Mr Tines
. 2 in the AM PM (2006), dir. J.G. Quintel -- JM
. La Maison en Petits Cubes (2008), dir. Kunio Kato -- JM
. After The Rain/Après la pluie (2008), dir. Charles-Andre Lefebvre, Manuel Tanon-Tchi, Louis Tardivier, Sebastien Vovau, Emmanuelle Walker -- JM
. Saturday Morning Watchmen (2009), dir. Harry Partridge -- ILDC

. Out of Sight (2010), dir. Ya-Ting Yu -- JM
. The Bottle (2010), dir. Kirsten Lepore -- JM
. The King and the Beaver/Le Royaume (2010), dir. Nuno Alves Rodrigues, Oussama Boucheria, Julien Chheng, Sébastien Hary, Aymeric Kevin, Ulysse Malassagne, Frank Monier -- JM
. Hummingbirds and Holograms (2011), dir. Jeff Liu -- JM
. Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 1 (2012), dir. Jay Oliva -- Maxtiis
. Batman: The Dark Knight Returns Part 2 (2013), dir. Jay Oliva -- Maxtiis
. Mickey Mouse '13: New York Weenie (2013), dir. Aaron Springer -- JM
. Mickey Mouse '13: Tokyo Go (2013), dir. Paul Rudish -- JM
. Mickey Mouse '13: Gasp! (2013), dir. Clay Morrow -- JM
. Mickey Mouse '13: Bad Ear Day (2013), dir. Chris Savino -- JM
. Mickey Mouse '13: The Boiler Room (2014), dir. Paul Rudish -- JM
. We GOTTA Get SPONGEBOB Back (2015), dir. Jonathan Gran/Ukinojoe -- ILDC

In the previous update, I pondered the question of including Shenmue: The Movie, a bizarre creation where SEGA took gameplay and cutscenes from Shenmue and edited it down into a somewhat coherent 90-minute film. On thinking about it some more, and asking one or two people on the matter, I came to the conclusion that if we were to count video game cutscenes as animation, that would open the gates of hell in terms of what gets in, why it would get in, and the endless pedantic arguments that would follow: what counts as a cutscene, which cutscenes would be included, what about games that are nothing but QTEs, etc. There's a time and a place to critique video game cutscenes and rank them in terms of what they're trying to do, but not in this topic.

With that settled, let's get onto today's uncertain topic:

FAN RE-ANIMATIONS! (Particularly Moon Animate Make-Up!)

I have no problems with counting internet animations on the list if they're good enough or had some kind of an impact, and arguably this has had something of an impact. In 2014, over 250 animators contributed to a project that involved taking an episode of Sailor Moon and reanimating each and every shot in whatever style the animators wanted to do. This became really quite popular, to the point where a sequel episode was made in 2016, other animators were inspired to do the same for an episode of Dragon Ball (known as Seven Star Animate) and a similar brigade of animators are working to reanimate an episode of Yu-Gi-Oh! (tentatively titled Yu-Gi-Oh! Reanimate).

The only question on including it is that technically, it's not an original animation. It's using the same storyboards as the original episode, and doesn't deviate from said episode beyond whatever the animator decides to do with their cut (granted, I think some of the touches and movements add more to the episode). Honestly, I really do think it should go in the list, but I'd rather run it by you guys first and see what you think. Let me know, and I'll see where I go from there.

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Re: 1001 Animated Films To Check Out - UPDATED 05/JUNE/2017 (OVER 600 FILMS!)

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Postby FrDougal9000 » Mon Jun 05, 2017 2:46 pm


Holy crap, I didn't think about it while working on the latest updates for this list, but the 2010s alone has reached 150 films! To think a single decade could supply that many entries, even though it's still only the early stages and things can/will be cut as this project progresses, is actually kind of beautiful. Especially with the internet allowing all sorts of creators to get involved; I've actually amassed enough awesome shorts that I could do a list of 50 shorts from this decade alone to recommend to everyone!

At the same time, we've also gone past the benchmark of 600 films, which is ridiculous and amazing considering this project started less than two months ago. Once again, a big thanks to everyone who's contributed to this project with suggestions, feedback and whatnot! You are all amazing, and I don't think I'll be ever able to thank you enough for this!

In the meantime, here are the films, shorts and episodes added to today's update:

. Mickey Mouse: The Mad Doctor (1933), dir. David Hand -- ILDC

. Mickey Mouse: Mr. Mouse Takes a Trip (1940), dir. Clyde Geronimi -- ILDC
. Goofy: Hockey Homicide (1945), dir. Jack Kinney -- ILDC
. Merrie Melodies: Hair-Raising Hare (1946), dir. Chuck Jones -- ILDC
. Merrie Melodies: Hot Cross Bunny (1948), dir. Robert McKimson -- ILDC

. Tom & Jerry: Muscle Beach Tom (1956), dir. William Hanna & Joesph Barbera -- ILDC

. The Play/Igra (1962), dir. Dušan Vukotić -- JM
. Automania 2000 (1963), dir. John Halas -- JM

. Bambi Meets Godzilla (1973), dir. Marv Newland -- ILDC

. Merrie Melodies: Soup or Sonic (1980), dir. Chuck Jones, Phil Monroe -- ILDC

. An American Tail: Fievel Goes West (1991), dir. Phil Nibbelink & Simon Wells -- ILDC
. Invasion of the Bunny Snatchers (1992), dir. Greg Ford & Terry Lennon -- ILDC

. Xiao Xiao (2001), dir. Zhu Zhiqiang -- JM
. Steriogram: Walkie Talkie Man (2004), dir. Michel Gondry -- JM
. They Might Be Giants: Experimental Film (2004), dir. Mike & Matt Chapman -- ILDC
. They Might Be Giants: Bastard Wants to Hit Me (2005), dir. Aaron Sorensen & Courtney Booker -- ILDC
. OVAL X OVER (2005), dir. Hiroyuki Imaishi -- JM
. South Park: Make Love, Not Warcraft (2006), dir. Trey Parker -- AwesomeCauliflower68
. Haloid (2006), dir. Monty Oum -- JM
. Sonic: Nazo Unleashed (2006), dir. Chakra-X -- JM
. Animator vs. Animation (2006), dir. Alan Becker -- JM
. Weiss (2007), dir. Florian Grolig -- JM
. Weird Al Yankovic: Trapped in the Drive-Thru (2007), dir. Doug Bresler -- ILDC
. Sita Sings the Blues (2008), dir. Nina Paley -- JM
. A Town Called Panic (2009), dir. Stéphane Aubier & Vincent Patar -- ILDC

. SWITCH (2010), dir. Tyson Hesse -- JM
. Second Wind (2010), dir. Ian Worrel -- JM
. C2C: Delta (2012), dir. CRCR -- PC
. Hitman Absolution: Hiding In Plain Sight (2012), dir. Harry Patridge -- JM
. Stuck In The Sound: Let's Go (2012), dir. Alexis Beaumont & Rémi Godin -- JM
. This Actually Happens A Lot (2013), dir. Tom Law -- JM
. Animash (2013), dir. Unknown -- JM
. Wolfsong (2013), dir. Toniko Pantoja -- JM
. CONCORDE: Sons (2014), dir. Alexis Beaumont & Rémi Godin -- JM
. Fever The Ghost: SOURCE (2014), dir. Felix Colgrave -- JM
. Back To Tamriel (2014), dir. Harry Patridge -- JM
. Moon Animate Make-Up! (2014), dir. Junichi Sato, Kaitlin Sullivan -- JM
. Mickey Mouse '13: Al Rojo Viva (2015), dir. Dave Wasson, Paul Rudish -- JM
. Mickey Mouse '13: Movie Time (2015), dir. Dave Wasson, Paul Rudish -- JM
. Mickey Mouse '13: Entombed (2016), dir. Dave Thomas, Paul Rudish -- JM
. Inside (2016), dir. Mattis Dovier -- JM
. SIAMÉS: The Wolf (2017), dir. Fer Suniga & Rudo Co. -- JM

On the subject of including re-animations (such as Moon Animate Make-Up), someone made a very good point about it: while it does use the storyboards of the original episode, it counts more as a remake since it doesn't trace over the original footage. With that in mind, I also remembered that Disney/WB/MGM would occasionally remake some of their old shorts with brand new animation, and it would be unfair to discount them from inclusion just because they're not the original version. So, at least for now, re-animations (especially those by fans) will be up for inclusion on the list.

Now, for this week's question to the audience, I want your thoughts on a point that a forum poster elsewhere asked with the last update:


This was asked in relation to the two-part adaptation of Batman: The Dark Knight Returns, which I had listed as two separate entries, but said forum poster felt should be counted as one film to free up space for another film. And I do think that is a good idea, at least in the context of these two specific films, but I'm not sure for doing that with films in general.

On the one hand, you could argue that two-part films make up two halves of one story, but each film has its own self-contained story to tell within a bigger story, and it can sometimes happen that one half is stronger than the other (ask most folks who prefer Back to the Future Part II to Part III, even though they technically are the two halves of Marty's next adventure). On that note, the "separate-portions-of-a-story" logic could be used to justify counting other pairs of films, or even trilogies, under one film. "What? All four new Evangelion films tell their own portions of one big story, so why not just have 3.33 used to represent the whole series?"

On the other hand, if the story is clearly split up into two parts and only really works when you watch the two films together, maybe it would make more sense to list it as one film. What do you think? Should I make an exception for this case, and perhaps other films of a similar sort? Or should I list the two films separately and not wind up causing a pedantic conversation about representing film series with one film? Let me know, and I'll see what to do next.

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Re: 1001 Animated Films To Check Out - UPDATED 12/JUNE/2017 (ALMOST 700 FILMS!)

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Postby FrDougal9000 » Mon Jun 12, 2017 9:32 am


Yikes, I think this might be the biggest update to the list since the project began, with 78 films being added! This has not only taken us over 650 films in total, but has left just a couple of films short of breaking past the barrier of 700 films! That's baffling and amazing at the same time, and I can only again offer my endless gratitude to everyone who has contributed to the project with suggestions, feedback and whatnot. Thank you all!

If you're interested to see what films were added to the list, here they are:

. Looney Tunes: Baseball Bugs (1945), dir. Friz Freleng -- JM
. Merrie Melodies: The Duck-sters (1949), dir. Chuck Jones -- JM
. Looney Tunes: Long Haied-Hare (1949), dir. Chuck Jones -- JM

. Looney Tunes: The Scarlet Pumpernickel (1950), dir. Chuck Jones -- JM
. Looney Tunes: Bully For Bugs (1952), dir. Chuck Jones -- JM
. Merrie Melodies: Rabbit Seasoning (1952), dir. Chuck Jones -- JM
. Lady and the Tramp (1955), dir. Clyde Geronimi, Wilfred Jackson, Hamilton Luske -- JM

. Gay Purr-ee (1962), dir. Abe Levitow -- JM
. The Great Adventures of Horus, Prince of the Sun (1968), dir. Isao Takahata -- JM
. The Wonderful World of Puss n' Boots (1969), dir. Kimio Yabuki -- JM

. Animal Treasure Island (1971), dir. Hiroshi Ikeda -- JM
. Zikkaron (1971), dir. Laurent Coderre -- JM
. The Point (1971), dir. Fred Wolf -- ILDC
. Mr. Frog Went-A-Courting (1974), dir. Evelyn Lambart -- JM
. Schoolhouse Rock: I'm Just a Bill (1976), dir. -- ILDC

. The Fox and the Hound (1981), dir. Ted Berman, Richard Rich, Art Stevens -- JM
. Barefoot Gen (1983), dir. Mori Masaki -- JM
. Urusei Yatsura: Beautiful Dreamers (1984), dir. Mamoru Oshii -- JM
. Superstar: The Karen Carpenter Story (1987), dir. Todd Haynes -- ILDC
. Royal Space Force: The Wings of Honnêamise (1987), dir. Hiroyuki Yamaga -- JM
. Robot Carnival (1987), dir. Atsuko Fukushima, Katsuhiro Otomo, Koji Morimoto, Hidetoshi Ōmori, Yasuomi Umetsu, Hiroyuki Kitazume, Manabu Ōhashi (Mao Lamdo), Hiroyuki Kitakubo, Takashi Nakamura -- JM
. Neo Tokyo (1987), dir. Rintaro, Yoshiaki Kawajiri, Katsuhiro Otomo -- JM
. They Might Be Giants: (She Was A) Hotel Detective (1988), dir. Adam Bernstein -- ILDC
. The Persistent Peddler (1988), dir. Claude Cloutier -- JM
. Little Nemo: Adventures in Slumberland (1989), dir. Masami Hata & William Hurtz -- JM

. They Might Be Giants: Istanbul [Not Constantinople] (1990), dir. Unknown -- ILDC
. Batman The Animated Series: Pilot (1991), dir. Bruce Timm -- JM
. Tiny Toon Adventures: Tiny Toon Music Television (1991), dir. Art Vitello -- ILDC
. Roujin-Z (1991), dir. Hiroyuki Kitakubo -- JM
. Whoopass Stew! (1992), dir. Craig McCracken -- ILDC
. The Tune (1992), dir. Bill Plympton -- ILDC
. Aladdin (1992), dir. Ron Clements & John Musker -- ILDC
. The Dirdy Birdy (1993), dir. John R. Dilworth -- ILDC
. Animaniacs: Ragamuffins (1994), dir. Barry Caldwell & Jon McClenahan -- ILDC
. Space Ghost Coast to Coast: President's Day Nightmare (1995), dir. Unknown -- ILDC
. What a Cartoon!: Dexter's Laboratory (1995), dir. Genndy Tartakovsky -- ILDC
. What a Cartoon!: Johnny Bravo (1995), dir. Van Partible -- ILDC
. How Dinosaurs Learned to Fly (1995), dir. Munro Ferguson -- JM
. What a Cartoon!: Larry and Steve (1997), dir. Seth MacFarlane -- ILDC
. Hercules (1997), dir. John Musker & Ron Clements -- JM
. The Goddamn George Liquor Program: Episode 2 (1997), dir. John Kricfalusi -- JM
. Squirrel Nut Zippers: Ghost of Stephen Foster (1999), dir. Matthew Nastuk & Raymond S. Persi -- ILDC

. Paul McCartney's Music & Animation: Tuesday (2002), dir. Geoff Dunbar -- ILDC
. Space Ghost Coast to Coast: Baffler Meal (2003), dir. Unknown -- ILDC
. Destino (2003), dir. Dominique Monféry -- JM
. Plastic Man: Puddle Trouble (2006), dir. Andy Suriano -- ILDC
. The Girl Who Hated Books (2006), dir. Jo Meuris -- JM
. The Cribs: Mirror Kissers (2006), dir. Olly Williams & Philip Sansom -- JM
. Super Mario Bros Z: Brawl on a Vanishing Island (2007), dir. Alvin-Earthworm -- JM
. Robot Chicken: Star Wars (2007), dir. Seth Green -- ILDC
. They Might Be Giants: With The Dark (2007), dir. Hine Mizushima -- ILDC
. They Might Be Giants: The Mesopotamians (2007), dir. David Cowles -- ILDC
. Genius Party (2007), dir. Atsuko Fukushima, Shoji Kawamor, Shinji Kimura, Yoji Fukuyama, Hideki Futamura, Masaaki Yuasa, Shinichiro Watanabe -- JM
. Evangelion: 1.0 You Are (Not) Alone (2007), dir. Hideaki Anno (chief), MASAYUKI & Kazuya Tsurumaki -- JM
. Teppen Toppa Gurren Lagann: The Lights in the Sky Are Stars (2007), dir. Hiroyuki Imaishi -- RC
. The Sky Crawlers (2008), dir Mamoru Oshii -- JM
. Random! Cartoons: Adventure Time (2008), dir. Pendleton Ward -- ILDC
. The Powerpuff Girls: The Powerpuff Girls Rule!!! (2009), dir. Craig McCracken -- ILDC
. Evangelion: 2.0 You Can (Not) Advance (2009), dir. Hideaki Anno (chief), MASAYUKI & Kazuya Tsurumaki -- JM

. Weird Al Yankovic: Polka Face (2011), dir. Unknown -- ILDC
. CollegeHumor: The Fantastic Mr. Star Fox (2011), dir. Unknown -- ILDC
. Gravity Falls: Fight Fighters (2012), dir. John Aoshima -- ILDC
. Tame Impala: Feels Like We Only Go Backwards (2012), dir. Becky Sloan & Jospeh Pelling
. Evangelion: 3.0 You Can (Not) Redo (2012), dir. Hideaki Anno (chief), Mahiro Maeda & Kazuya Tsurumaki -- JM
. Dragon Ball Z: Battle of Gods (2013), dir. Masahiro Hosoda -- JM
. Crash Does A Thing (2013), dir. CrikeyDave & Psyguy -- JM
. The Powerpuff Girls: Dance Pantsed (2014), dir. David P. Smith -- ILDC
. Space Dandy: A Race in Space Dangerous, Baby (2014), dir. So Toyama, Shinichirō Watanabe -- RC
. Kahlil Gibran's The Prophet (2014), dir. Roger Allers (supervising), Paul & Gaëtan Brizzi, Joan C. Gratz, Mohammed Saeed Harib, Tomm Moore, Nina Paley, Bill Plympton, Joann Sfar, Michal Socha -- JM
. Back to Backspace (2014), dir. Dominic Bisignano & Amalia Levari (presumed) -- ILDC
. SIMPSONS PIXELS (2015), dir. Paul Robertson & Ivan Dixon -- ILDC
. Mickey Mouse '13: Workin' Stiff (2015), dir. Eddie Trigueros -- ILDC
. Regular Show: Fun Run (2015), dir. Sarah Oleksyk -- JM
. Primus: Candyman (2015), dir. Ivan Landau, Edgar Alvarez & Webster Colcord -- ILDC
. The Amazing World of Gumball: The Origins (2016), dir. Aurelie Charbonnier (presumed) -- ILDC
. Batman: Return of the Caped Crusaders (2016), dir. Rick Morales -- JM
. Duck The Halls: A Mickey Mouse Christmas Special (2016), dir. Alonso Ramirez Ramos & Dave Wasson -- ILDC
. Captain Underpants: The First Epic Movie (2017), dir. David Soren -- ILDC

To settle last week's question of whether two-part films should be listed as one film (such as Batman: The Dark Knight Returns), I talked to a couple of people in the last few days and was convinced to list each film in a series individually, but to make an exception for The Dark Knight Returns. The reason for that is because the two films are explicitly two parts of the same story and have generally similar qualities that it would be redundant to list the same thing twice for slightly different reasons (unlike, say, the new Evangelion movies, which are very different from each other). Unless very similar cases crop up in the near future, I don't intend on making any more exceptions in this area, lest we end up getting lost in pedantic arguments.

Now, this next question will be the last one concerning what kind of films can/can't be included for quite some time, since we've covered pretty much all the major grey areas. So, here's my question:


You might notice there's something of an inconsistency in regards to compilation/anthology films, where there isn't a single continuous story but several short films grouped together under a certain theme, on the list. Films such as the Fantasia movies and Robot Carnival are included in their entirety, yet with other films like The Animatrix, they're represented with one particular segment. I'd like to sort out this issue and have every compilation/anthology film be treated equally, but I'm not sure what to do.

On the one hand, I'm fine with listing the film in general, since some films are more important for their historical context as a whole than the inherent quality of particular shorts (e.g. Fantasia should be included entirely for what the project in general was trying to do, not for the merits of one or two of its segments). On the other hand, there are some films that only have one or two particularly important or high-quality segment, and it would make more sense to emphasize the quality of those segments compared to the rest of the project (e.g. I consider Beyond to be the only really interesting segment in The Animatrix).

I apologize if this sounds unclear, but this basic representation of what either solution would look like should hopefully give you a better understanding:


. Robot Carnival (1987), dir. Atsuko Fukushima...
. Neo Tokyo (1987), dir. Rintaro...
. Fantasia 2000 (1999), dir...


. Robot Carnival: Franken's Gears (1987), dir. Koji Morimoto
. Robot Carnival: Chicken Man and Red Neck (1987), dir. Takashi Nakamura
. Neo Tokyo: Running Man (1987), dir. Yoshiaki Kawajiri
. Fantasia 2000: Pines of Rome (1999), dir. Hendel Butoy
. Fantasia 2000: Rhapsody in Blue (1999), dir. Eric Goldberg

If you can help me come to some conclusion on this matter, I'd really appreciate that. I want to be fair to all anthology/compilation films, and I want to hear other perspectives that I may not have previously considered. Thank you.

Whatever you end up doing, please contribute with suggestions and feedback, share this thread around to other people so they can join in, and I'll do everything I can to keep moving forward with this project. Thank you all again, and have a great day!

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Re: 1001 Animated Films To Check Out - UPDATED 12/JUNE/2017 (ALMOST 700 FILMS!)

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Postby FrDougal9000 » Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:26 am


Hello, and welcome back to the thread! I've given the opening post a bit of a clean-up, to make it more easily readable to newcomers, and updated the rules since the questions I've been asking y'all have been cleared up. In addition, we've got another big update, with 48 films having been added to the list! This is just a couple of films short of the 750 film threshold, meaning that we've managed to get over 700 films! Thank you all for contributing to this project, with suggestions, feedback and questions, to such an extent! You're the best! And now, for the updated films:

. Eveready Harton in Buried Treasure (1929), dir. Unknown -- ILDC

. Tom & Jerry: Fraidy Cat (1942), dir. William Hanna & Joseph Barbera -- JM
. Tom & Jerry: Dog Trouble (1942), dir. William Hanna & Joseph Barbera -- JM

. Toot, Whistle, Plunk and Boom (1953), dir. Ward Kimball & Charles A. Nichols -- ILDC
. Goofy: How to Sleep (1953), dir. Jack Kinney -- ILDC

. DuckTales the Movie: Treasure of the Lost Lamp (1990), dir. Bob Hathcock -- ILDC
. Beavis and Butt-head: Frog Baseball (1992), dir. Mike Judge -- ILDC
. Batman TAS: Heart of Ice (1992), dir. Bruce Timm -- ILDC
. Green Jelly: Three Little Pigs (1993), dir. Fred Sthur (presumed) -- JM
. The Powerpuff Girls: Meat Fuzzy Lumpkins (1995), dir. Craig McCracken -- ILDC
. Björk: I Miss You (1995), dir. John Kricfalusi -- ILDC
. Cow and Chicken: No Smoking (1995), dir. Dave Feiss -- ILDC
. Courage the Cowardly Dog: The Chicken from Outer Space (1996), dir. John R. Dilworth -- ILDC
. Batman TAS: Legends of the Dark Knight (1998), dir. Dan Riba -- ILDC
. SpongeBob SquarePants: Help Wanted (1999), dir. Stephen Hillenburg -- ILDC
. The Powerpuff Girls: The Bare Facts (1999), dir. John McIntyre & Craig McCracken -- ILDC

. An Extremely Goofy Movie (2000), dir. Douglas McCarthy -- JM
. Rejected (2000), dir. Don Hertzfeldt -- ILDC
. Ramblin' Man (2000), dir. Aaron Augenblick -- ILDC
. Gorillaz: Tomorrow Comes Today (2000), dir. Jamie Hewlett -- ILDC
. Gorillaz: 19-2000 (2001), dir. Jamie Hewlett & Pete Candeland -- ILDC
. Gorillaz: Rock the House (2001), dir. Jamie Hewlett & Pete Candeland -- ILDC
. The Animatrix (2003), dir. Andy Jones, Mahiro Maeda, Shinichiro Watanabe, Yoshiaki Kawajiri, Takeshi Koike, Kōji Morimoto, Peter Chung -- JM (THIS REPLACES THE ANIMATRIX: BEYOND)
. Gorillaz: DARE (2005), dir. Jamie Hewlett & Pete Candeland -- ILDC
. Gorillaz: Dirty Harry (2005), dir. Unknown -- ILDC
. Kanye West: Heard 'Em Say (2005), dir. Bill Plympton & Kanye West -- ILDC
. Gorillaz: El Mañana (2006), dir. Jamie Hewlett -- ILDC
. Weird Al Yankovic: Close but No Cigar (2006), dir. John Kricfalusi -- ILDC
. Kanye West: Good Morning (2007), dir. Takashi Murakami (presumed) -- ILDC
. Kanye West: Good Life (2007), dir. Jonas Euvremer & François Rousselet -- ILDC
. Kanye West: Heartless (2008), dir. Hype Williams -- ILDC
. Kid Cudi: Day 'n' Nite (2009), dir. So Me -- ILDC

. Scott Pilgrim vs. The Animation (2010), dir. Unknown -- ILDC
. Gorillaz: Stylo (2010), dir. Unknown -- ILDC
. Zac Brown Band: The Wind (2012), dir. Mike Judge -- ILDC
. Motorcity: Mayhem Night (2012), dir. Chris Prynoski -- ILDC
. Gorillaz: DoYaThing (2012), dir. Jamie Hewlett -- ILDC
. Rick and Morty: Pilot (2013), dir. Justin Roiland -- ILDC
. Chalk Trace (2013), dir. Esther Johnson -- JM
. Gelato Go Home! (2013), dir. Alasdair Brotherston & Jock Mooney -- JM
. Major Lazer: Come On To Me (2014), dir. Unknown -- ILDC
. Mune: Guardian of the Moon (2014), dir. Alexandre Heboyan & Benoît Philippon -- JM
. Mickey Mouse '13: Black and White (2015), dir. Clay Morrow -- ILDC
. Dofus - Book 1: Julith (2015), dir. Anthony Roux & Jean-Jacques Denis -- JM
. Radiohead: Burn the Witch (2016), dir. Chris Hopewell -- ILDC
. Storks (2016), dir. Nicholas Stoller & Doug Sweetland -- ILDC
. The Master: A LEGO Ninjago Short (2016), dir. Jon Saunders -- ILDC
. Zedd: Ignite (2016), dir. Unknown -- JM
. The LEGO Batman Movie (2017), dir. Chris McKay -- ILDC

As you might have noticed from the update, I've come to a conclusion on last week's question; mainly as to whether anthology films should be listed a one film, or by whatever unique shorts are in these films. After talking to a couple of people, I've decided to list the film in its entirety, though I will have no issue listing shorts of particular note in a bonus section or something like that. Otherwise, there might have been a chance that people would get really pedantic about this topic.

Now, last time I said that I wouldn't have anything else to discuss, but someone raised the point of including mini-series such as Over the Garden Wall into the list. I hadn't really considered the point, but I believe that since the episodes tend to be ten minutes long, they should be listed like TV episodes or animated shorts. However, there's also the fact that some mini-series have tight plotlines that develop over the few mini-sodes that they have, so it would surely make more sense to list them in their entirety.

I'm not too sure on what to do on this subject, so I'd like to hear your thoughts on it.

In the meantime, keep contributing with suggestions, feedback and questions! I'll do my best to address/include them! Thank you all once again, I hope you've found a good few films from this thread, and until we meet again, have a great day!

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Re: 1001 Animated Films You Should Watch Suggestions Thread - UPDATED 1/JULY/2017 (ALMOST 850 FILMS!)

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Postby FrDougal9000 » Sat Jul 01, 2017 8:43 am


To try and expand the scope of what's included on the list, I took to asking a couple of animation enthusiasts on Twitter and was sent to some websites listing good shorts/films. This would explain why this next update has 103 films, which manages to take us past not only 750 films but 800 films! Hell, it leaves just a couple of films under the 850 film threshold! It's simply insane to think of how many films have been added with this update, particularly to the 1930's. In fact, I'm quite tempted to give the 30's its own section from here on out. We'll see, but for now, thank you all again. You're amazing!

I won't bother adding an update list, since you can find that on the forum's opening post. (Yeah, I've had to make quite a few changes to the opening post, due to reaching the character limit. You can find out more there.)

Onto last week's topic, where I asked how mini-series should be covered in this series. I wasn't sure whether to count the mini-series as a film or list a specific episode, but after asking a couple of people elsewhere for their thoughts, I've come to the conclusion that despite their length, mini-series are still structured like TV shows or shorts series. Each segment is only a few minutes long, and to list an entire mini-series would simply open the gates for people debating on why TV shows with tight narratives can't be included either. It's simply too broad, but I will allow episodes of a mini-series; just not the whole darn thing!

Now, since we're pretty much finished with grey areas (at least until someone brings up one that I completely forgot about), this next question is a bit more complex. To increase exposure and people participating in this project, I'm going to try and start social media pages for the 1001 Animated Films You Should Watch project. Twitter, Facebook, Instagram, etc; whatever would best get more folks involved in this project. However, I'm completely useless when it comes to these sort of things, so I'd like to hear your suggestions on what I should do when setting up and promoting these pages. For some examples:

How often should I post? Should I ask someone more competent to manage the social media aspect? What kind of aesthetic should the pages go for?

Those are just a few basic questions, but if you've got anything more to offer, please let me know and I'll see where to go from there. In the meantime, please keep contributing with suggestions, feedback and questions! Thank you all once again, and until we meet again, have a great day y'all!

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Re: 1001 Animated Films You Should Watch Suggestions Thread - UPDATED 9/JULY/2017 (OVER 1000 FILMS!)

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Postby FrDougal9000 » Sun Jul 09, 2017 1:51 pm


Today's update is a pretty special one, for two reasons.

One: this update marks the 3 month anniversary of me starting this thread, all the way back on the 9th of April.

Two: the list of suggested films has gone over not just 850 films; not just 900 films; and not just 950 films. The list has gone over ONE THOUSAND FILMS!

To collect a list of that many films, shorts, episodes, music videos and so on over the course of just three months is not only far beyond whatever expectations I had when I kicked this thing off, but is simply incredible to think that so many people would be able to suggest and contribute a staggering number of animated works, along with feedback in helping me refine what to include.

As my way of celebrating today's update, I'm going to thank everyone who has contributed to the project in some way. We're not done taking suggestions yet (like I said before, we'll probably stop at around 2000 or thereabouts), but I'd like to take the time to give my gratitude to everyone listed below:

Paul Cronin
Richard Cross
Daniel Thomas MacInnes
King Smithy
Karate Joe
Kara Kong 
Twilight Vestige 
Mr Tines
Director Black 
Indigo Rush 
Monkey Destruction Switch
Soldier: 76 

Thank you all. I say this so often, but that's because I mean it every time. I couldn't have done this without you.

And with that, I'll be off to take a brief break from cataloguing films. I'll still take questions, but I need to pace myself for a little while. I'll be back soon enough, however, so you won't have to wait too long. I'll still be around to answer questions if need me, so ask them if you need to.

The latest updates to the list can be found in the opening post, so be sure to check that out.

Thank you. Keep contributing if you can with suggestions, questions and feedback. Until we meet again, have a great day!

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Re: 1001 Animated Films You Should Watch Suggestions Thread - UPDATED 17/JULY/2017 (OVER 1350 FILMS!)

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Postby FrDougal9000 » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:57 pm


Eh, I just couldn't stop myself from updating this project one last time. And bleeding buggery, this update's the biggest one yet; with 346 films, the amount of films on the list skips straight past 1100, 1200 and 1300 films, and heads to just over 1350 FILMS! Once again, this is both insane and beautiful, and I can only thank everyone who has suggested films or recommended other lists for me to check out. Y'all are amazing and I love you.

The films added to the list can be seen in the opening post for this thread!

I've not made much progress on the social media front just yet, but I'm gathering ideas for what I could do. One of these involves doing a YouTube channel focused entirely around animation-related topics (reviews of animated films/shows, discussions about certain topics, countdowns listing favourite shows/films/whatever, animator reels). I will start getting to work on them when I come back from my break.

And that will likely be about 2-3 weeks, since I'm going off to somewhere on holiday for the first time in 3 years, and I plan to not do any kind of work during that time. In the meantime, please keep suggesting animated films, providing feedback, and giving me advice on how to promote this topic on social media if you can. Thank you all, and have a great day!

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