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Postby silvermoonlight » Sat Mar 18, 2017 10:46 am

Hope this is the right place for this.

The sequel to the 1982 The Dark Crystal film called Power Of The Dark Crystal which never made got made in to a movie is coming out in comic book form just in case anyone's interested and a fan of the original film as the first issue is out now. ^_^

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/dark-crystal-sequel-finally-coming-life-thanks-comic-book-series-949591
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Postby Ray » Sat Mar 18, 2017 11:52 am

In preparation for the TV shows release there was a comic book adaptation of American Gods . And it's something else. . .

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That's right boys and girls this is the infamous "vagina swallowing a man whole" scene from the book.
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Postby Ray » Sat Mar 18, 2017 8:20 pm

The Peter Parker/Mary Jane Watson Marriage Will Never Ever Return “Up To Infinity” Says Dan Slott

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/03/18 ... dan-slott/


Since Slott is long, rude and rambling, I'll summarize. Peter and MJs marriage can never return. Other things from OMD can be addressed ( such as the deal with Mephisto) except the marriage itself. Changing editors won't fix that. Everyone at Marvel, from the interns to Disney overseers are against it, because they don't think people want to see an older 'married with Children' Spider-Man. Especially considering the current Spider-Man in their movies is a teenager (edit: gotta keep up dat brand synergy). Slott goes on to say he believes future fans will not care, because the events of OMD will always have been a part of the character for them and will not be "betraying any core value" with the character they currently know. You would get a hard reboot to high school Peter Parker before he gets married again. Renew Your Vows is the only outlet we will ever get for a married Parker in the comics.

And that's my decision to jump ship to DC 100% Justified.
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Postby Bagheera » Sat Mar 18, 2017 9:45 pm

People were just as certain Trump would never be president, and yet here we are. Would I bet money on it happening eventually? No. But anyone who's been reading comics for any length of time knows that just about anything is possible, and that dismissing any story idea, no matter how outlandish or inane, with such certainty is a fool's errand.

So, grab some salt and chill. It's not worth the irritation.
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Postby Ray » Mon Mar 20, 2017 4:10 pm

Marvel Releases a series of 'Multiverse' Mary Jane Themed covers.

http://imgur.com/a/4wRJ5

A lot of them are infinitely more interesting as concepts than the current run at Marvel. . .

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I'd actually pay to see this as a full What If issue.

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Postby Shinoyami65 » Tue Mar 21, 2017 8:57 am

View Original PostRay wrote:In preparation for the TV shows release there was a comic book adaptation of American Gods . And it's something else. . .

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That's right boys and girls this is the infamous "vagina swallowing a man whole" scene from the book.


Well, that is literally how it happened in the book. I wasn't really expecting them to water it down for the comic release (although I doubt it will appear on television). I think this artist has worked with Gaiman previously on one a Sandman mini-series, as well.
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Postby movieartman » Wed Mar 22, 2017 9:26 am

We got a entire 5 issue Unworthy Thor mini series sold to us as male Thor discovering and eventually using the Ultimate Hammer... only for this to happen...
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Aaron is trolling us... fuck's sake man... I am done, so god damn done.

Plus they revealed what Fury said to Thor to make him Unworthy... and as everyone predicted...
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"Gorr was right"

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Postby movieartman » Thu Apr 06, 2017 4:33 pm

Nice little BTS vid of artist Mark Brooks drawing a new Secret Empire cover with Thor, Wanda & Vision.
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Postby Ray » Thu May 11, 2017 3:33 am

I finally finished up reading League of Extraordinary Gentlemen after years of putting it off, and to be honest I'm a little disappointed. Which I guess was part of the point of Century. The story is about disappointment, and frustration with the way the world turned out when compared to the dreams writers from the Pulp era the characters of the story originated imagined it to be.
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But Century 2009? That was just. . . pure distilled depression on Moore's part.

By the end of League. there's no Martians on Mars anymore, Baghdad is home to terrorists now, not genies or flying carpets. The people who are celebrated as heroes by the general public are reprehensible thugs like 'Jimmy' Bond, and heroes like John Carter, Sherlock Holmes, Allan Quartermane, are either dead, dying, or living their lives in shame. The names of great heroes from literature of the past (this worlds actual past) are mocked by being used to sell products like Ramen.

The one who gets the worst of it is Immortal transvesite Orlando. Who is still coming to terms with her own disappointment about the course of human history, and the stagnation of the literary world of League. She's been around since Troy, she's been in almost every major conflict since then., She's seen gods be born and die, had every conceivable type of sex imaginable, she's met everyone from Hercules and Spartacus, King Arthur and Merlin, to Sinbad and Adenoid Hynkel, to Horatio Blimp and Fu Manchu. She's killed so many people for both justifiable and morally dubious reasons over her 2000 plus year long life that she just can't bring herself to care anymore. Even sharing her experiences with fellow immortal soldier Colonel Cuckoo can't bring her out of her stupor. She's done everything, and now only seeks comfort in the familiar, but all that's familiar to her is war.
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The world (and the public domain the characters living in it) have lost everything that made it special. Or rather, what literature had in the past that it doesn't have today.

. . . and this is Alan Moores screed against it.

League: Century 2009 Is basically Alan Moore venting all of his disappointments with the world, modern literature, fanboy communities, and comics culture out there. Moore is being a crochety old man lamenting the death of the public domain, the death of the types of heroes from the past, and the death of anything genuinely fresh and new in the world (which he also mentions in his poem 'Mandrillifesto').
Aside from Orlando being unable to cope with the modern world. Mina Murray mocks the 'The invisible college' (clearly meant to be Hogwarts), for being a pastiche of "comforting imagery from the 1940's" meant to evoke the past, Allan Quartermain with his drug of choice no longer existing is addicted to Opium again, and all this is happening as theres a new threat on the horizon.

. . . the anti-christ, the one destined to destroy the world. Is none other than 'The Boy Who Lived' himself. Now a grown 20-something man child who hates the world, who kills one of the main characters who's been around since Leagues first volume in a VERY humiliating way. The characters death pretty much sums up the way Moore feels about what Harry Potter and "Young Adult" fiction has done to the genre of adventure and fantasy.
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Harry Potter, the Anti-Christ literally kills Allan Quartermain, the one who discovered King Solomons diamond mines, who faced off against an Immortal Egyptian goddess and lived to tell the tale, by pissing magic on him.
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In return, Harry is killed by a thinly veiled Merry Poppins, or rather God in the physical form of Merry Poppins. Who tells Harry that the reason she's come to fight him is because of her "concern for the children, and the welfare of their imagination".
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Clearly Alan Moore doesn't think too highly of modern Young Adult fiction like Harry Potter. He's basically saying through this that modern young-adult literature doesn't breed creativity or imagination, it breeds stagnation and turns the people who read it into adult children. (A backlash against his own fans who grew up with his DC comics perhaps?)

I guess if League was meant to be Alan Moore taking a journey through literatures history. Then Century 2009 does do a decent Job of summing up the modern state of modern literature. It doesn't end on a happy note for anyone involved. . . it ends on disappointment. While I don't agree with the majority of Moore's sentiment here I can at least admire him admitting his exhaustion and bitterness through his art.
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Postby Chuckman » Thu May 11, 2017 3:39 pm

I don't understand Moore anymore. (heh)

The ending of Black Dossier is one of the most thunderous declarations of the power of fiction I've ever read and the ending to League is an old man bitching that the trash these kids today read isn't cool anymore.

To me it reads as him being bitter that the whole fiction-as-magic thing has gone mainstream and he isn't quirky anymore. It makes me dislike him.

Dude has a serious case of magus-itus.

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Postby Ray » Thu May 11, 2017 4:36 pm

Alan has a history of getting screwed over by corporations.

First Marvel sued him and forced him to change the name of his character Marvel man to Miracle Man.

Then DC screwed him out of the rights to his Watchmen characters through a contract loophole. Which basically stated that when the book went out of print the rights for the characters in the book would immediately revert to him. Neither he or DC were xpecting the book to be as successful as it was, and the book has never gone out of print because it's so successful. Which led to him refusing to work for either of the big two ever again.

Then came the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen movie which was produced and put on the big screen after he had written the black Dossier. And it was bad. And not a Watchmen, V for Vendetta " at least they tried and put effort into it" bad, or a Killing Joke " at least Mark Hamill is having a great time" bad. League of Extraordinary Gentlemen the film adaptation is indefensible in every sense of the word.

It was so bad he actually took legal action to have his name removed from any future film adaptations of any of his works.

Alan Moore isn't so much mad that his ideas have gone mainstream it's that his ideas have been hijacked by corporations. And his ideas neutered and altered to be more appealing to the mainstream. Which encourages people like JK Rowling to keep things more mainstream and socially acceptable. instead of challenging the mainstream, Harry Potter is beholden to the corporation that owns him.

Ever watch that episode of The Simpsons he did a guest Cameo on? When Milhouse brings a copy of a derivative work of Watchmen that he is not making a single bit of money off of. . . He loses it.

" You ignorant- Corporations are like leeches! LEECHES! They take your ideas and dreams and suck them! suck them dry until they've gone every last drop of marrow from your bones!"
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Avatar: "There's a Starman, waiting in the sky. He'd like to come and meet me, but he thinks he'd blow my mind."
Phew, I’m not tense anymore… now I’m just miserable.
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Postby Chuckman » Fri May 12, 2017 12:33 am

Harry Potter had to be shopped to dozens of publishers before one took a risk on it and J. K. Rowling is one of the richest authors, if not the richest, in human history. She wasn't exactly screwed and now she's got fuck you money and can declare a major character of her children's stories to be gay.

The idea that it was made to be mainstream is ludicrous. Rowling wanted to tell her story and she did it.

Before you point out that her work is derivative... let's remember that Alan Moore's most noteworthy works are all directly from, inspired by, or derived from other people's creations (which to varying degrees is true of all fiction...) or historical events.

Like I said, Alan Moore has a serious case of magusitis. You let too much power flow through you and you start to think you are the power, and the power inevitably decides to show you who's boss.

Yeah, the comic book companies screwed him, but tell it to Jack, man. Comic publishers and the film industry have fucking over writers as part of their business model. So it goes.

Oh, and look more into the League movie thing. Moore didn't arrange for his creator credit to be removed permanently from future films and books because of the poor perform,since of the film. Moore was called to testify in a suit against the production of the film by another script writer who claims that the final product has a lot in common with a similar script, which was titled Cast of Characters. He got salty because he got called into court and was exposed to the idea that he didn't invent crossover fanfics.

Moore wasn't even the first major author to do a mashup of Victorian and pulp heroes. It's old news.

I find it really strange and hypocritical that this guy is arguing that one period of fiction is better than another and derivative and successor works suck somehow when his entire career is built on taking other people's ideas and evolving them with fresh interpretations and concepts, something he's very good at.

Maybe it's the left hand path, maybe he's just old. He is what he is.

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Postby movieartman » Wed Jun 07, 2017 7:55 pm

Dark Knight 3 - The Master Race is done, was very meh overall, however I highly recommend the final issue to people who believe Frank Miller hates Superman, people are calling the issue & especially the back up a apology of sorts or at least a affirmation that he understands Clark now.
How much of the issue was Miller or Azzarello's writing isn't clear but Miller did draw the back up so I think it's fair to conclude that he approved the message it sent.

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Postby Ray » Thu Jun 08, 2017 2:18 pm

On that note, here's the ending so you all can judge for yourself.
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Also? In other more controversial news . . .The internet already spoiled this for everyone else.

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Batman finally popped the Question to Catwoman.
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It's not going to last. I mean seriously do you think Selena wants to be Damians stepmom?

We all know how this is going to end right? Selena's going to stick around for a few years but the writers aren't going to know what to do with the character, until eventually she just leaves Bruce again because " we worked better together when we weren't together".

Or the Multiverse will collapse in on itself again like it did with the new 52 and rebirth. Whichever comes first.

and. . . yeah can I just say what a phenomenally boneheaded Idea this is for the creative team?
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Postby Chuckman » Fri Jun 09, 2017 11:09 am

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Postby Shinoyami65 » Sat Jun 10, 2017 2:13 am

View Original PostRay wrote:
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It's not going to last. I mean seriously do you think Selena wants to be Damians stepmom?

We all know how this is going to end right? Selena's going to stick around for a few years but the writers aren't going to know what to do with the character, until eventually she just leaves Bruce again because " we worked better together when we weren't together".

Or the Multiverse will collapse in on itself again like it did with the new 52 and rebirth. Whichever comes first.

and. . . yeah can I just say what a phenomenally boneheaded Idea this is for the creative team?


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I guess the problem with the continuous nature of the comic book narrative is that characters with any kind of romantic attachment can never actually be in a relationship for too long.
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Postby Chuckman » Sat Jun 10, 2017 6:17 am

The constant reboots deboots underboots and das boots are proof that continuity is an anchor dragging down cape books.

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Postby movieartman » Wed Jun 21, 2017 6:04 pm

Now Aaron has revealed that Thor repeatedly cheated on Jane years ago...
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I fucking hate Marvel so much...

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Postby Ray » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:29 pm

View Original Postmovieartman wrote:Now Aaron has revealed that Thor repeatedly cheated on Jane years ago...
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I fucking hate Marvel so much...


Well he is a God what did you expect? If Zeus couldn't keep it in his pants what makes you think Thor could?

( seriously though this makes me glad I haven't picked up a Marvel comic book in a while).
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Postby Chuckman » Wed Jun 21, 2017 8:31 pm

I quit reading all Marvel when One More Day happened and now I'm utterly confused as to what's going on.


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