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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:31 am

The Wind Rises might very well be his best film.
It's not the easiest to love. The more outgoing protagonists & colorful fantastic worlds of his other films make those easy to enrapt your imagination but few films hit me on such an emotional & intellectual level as Rises.

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Postby SoryuUberAlles » Thu Jan 19, 2017 3:24 am

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Postby GAP » Fri Jan 20, 2017 10:41 pm

I a beginning to develop a sort of contempt for Goku in super where it seems like he is a parody of himself. I know Goku was never a Superman style hero but it seems like his cluelessness has risen to new levels in Super and it makes a lot more foolish than he actually is in the original series. I mostly like Funimation!Goku myself but I will admit his original incarnation is a lot more nobler than I thought.
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Postby Retro Chocolate » Tue Jan 24, 2017 11:31 pm

View Original PostGAP wrote:I a beginning to develop a sort of contempt for Goku in super where it seems like he is a parody of himself. I know Goku was never a Superman style hero but it seems like his cluelessness has risen to new levels in Super and it makes a lot more foolish than he actually is in the original series. I mostly like Funimation!Goku myself but I will admit his original incarnation is a lot more nobler than I thought.

Really? I thought that super Goku was just the same as always. We've just been getting more of a chance to see Goku in his normal life, rather than just fighting (he tends to be more serious when he fights). Then again, I've never really watched the dub, so I don't know how much they changed his character.
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Postby GAP » Mon Jan 30, 2017 5:57 pm

View Original PostRetro Chocolate wrote:Really? I thought that super Goku was just the same as always. We've just been getting more of a chance to see Goku in his normal life, rather than just fighting (he tends to be more serious when he fights). Then again, I've never really watched the dub, so I don't know how much they changed his character.


I don't know Goku just seems to be a lot more reckless and "sillier" to me, he orders a hit on himself just so that he could a see said hitman's full power. Goku had always been silly but he seems to be a parody of himself in Super.
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Postby Alaska Slim » Tue Mar 07, 2017 1:42 am

Super seems to be missing an opportunity to comment on Goku's character right now.


If Vegeta talking to the Universe 8 Saiyan was him showing how far from the villian he's become, then this here should be the moment where we finally see the "gray" of Goku's character come into the fore.

Here he is, with the raison d'etre of his character (fight stronger people to become stronger) being put against the welfare of the Universe. His will to fight is the reason Zen-oh is going to destroy the Universes that lose in the Tournament of power.

... and the tone the series is taking for all of this is "Well, that's Goku, things will work out somehow".

I mean, things haven't concluded yet, they could be aiming at a tonal shift soon enough... I just doubt they will. Not even the resigned fatalism of Bokurano's take of us vs them will enter into this I bet.


It's the closest Super has come to feeling as if it has actual stakes, but the writers just won't commit.
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