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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:40 am

I've assumed from the start that this would be sanitized of any super juicy cut info. The two examples Literary Eagle has posted seem to be very tame and insignificant and cut for the sake of pacing instead of a deliberate change of plans in the story.

As for BIG BLACK TEXT BLOCK I'm assuming we'll get an unmolested version with the actual Q CRC set. When that's out there'll be no point in heavy-handed blocking.

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Postby pwhodges » Fri Feb 24, 2017 8:54 am

I'm waiting to see if Final brings the release of the Q CRC as well.
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Fri Feb 24, 2017 10:01 am

I think it's guaranteed we'll get more Eva CRCs eventually. They've shown with the recent Godzilla set that they still very much love the format.
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Postby 1731298478 » Fri Feb 24, 2017 11:35 pm

Fuyutsuki's dialogue there carries on a little after that. The full quote is posted here:
君を運んできた複製体は、Mk.09の暫定パイロットとして用意されたアヤナミ型試作体第6号だ。ユイ君の情報は転送されていない ゆえに碇も興味ないようだ。あの複製体はゼーレのプログラムで動いている。我々の関知しないところだ。

Fuyutsuki: The clone that brought you here was the Ayanami type experimental prototype number six, prepared as the provisional pilot of Mark.09. As Yui-kun's information has not been transferred to it, it seems not to interest Ikari. That clone operates according to Seele's program. It is not our concern.

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Postby BlueBasilisk » Sat Feb 25, 2017 7:58 am

Fascinating! That one bit of dialogue explains so many of the mysteries surrounding Rei Q. In the final cut of the movie, Fuyutsuki says only Yui's data was left behind in the Ayanami series after her experiment. Going by this exchange, he must have meant personality data of some sort.

Mari also called Rei a provisional Seele pilot, but if she wasn't the intended pilot of Mark.09, who was? There isn't anyone else that we've seen. :???:

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Postby Reichu » Sat Feb 25, 2017 11:49 am

View Original PostBlueBasilisk wrote:That one bit of dialogue explains so many of the mysteries surrounding Rei Q. In the final cut of the movie, Fuyutsuki says only Yui's data was left behind in the Ayanami series after her experiment. Going by this exchange, he must have meant personality data of some sort.

I'm not so clear on what exactly the cut dialogue elucidates, precisely. The final film has Kaworu's comment about Rei Q's soul being somewhere else, and that remains just as mysterious. There is absolutely no need to imply that Rei contains anything but genetic data from Yui, that I can see, so nothing of value lost here, aside from the reveal of which Rei clone this is. (Though even that doesn't make sense in the final film, either, going by the number of heads they have lying around.)
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Postby pwhodges » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:00 pm

View Original PostReichu wrote:There is absolutely no need to imply that Rei contains anything but genetic data from Yui, that I can see,

But the point is that the excised words do imply exactly that (because she's a clone, she already has the genetic data, so this must refer to something else). Since those words are gone, they are not canon, and so you can ignore them of course; but it is of interest that another scenario was in their minds at some time, which is as worthy of discussion on those terms as, say, the alternative endings of EoE.
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Postby Reichu » Sat Feb 25, 2017 12:06 pm

Blue Basilisk was saying that Rei Q made more sense on account of the cut dialogue. I don't think Rei as seen in the films so far makes more sense if she's supposed to be getting uploaded with Yui's personality data, so I was explaining why I disagreed. If the cut dialogue tied into Kaworu's line about Rei Q, then maybe I would lament its absence.

Maybe I'm just overlooking something really obvious, though...
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Postby BlueBasilisk » Sat Feb 25, 2017 1:14 pm

I didn't mean that the possibility of Rei being implanted with leftover YuiOS explained a lot about her. I just remembered Fuyutsuki mentioning that during the conversation with Shinji and realizing those two statements could be linked. Rather, I think the stuff about her being pulled into service just to be Seele's provisional pilot and Gendo/Fuyutsuki not caring about her does a lot to explain why she is the way she is. You could already infer a lot of that from the movie but this spells it out rather plainly.
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Postby Literary Eagle » Wed Mar 01, 2017 4:41 pm

Wow, I'm thrilled there's been so much discussion on this thread lately! Also, thanks for the translation, Numbers-kun! I still have a hard time reading handwritten Japanese, so I'm glad someone here was able to decipher that part. Even if it turns out that information is no longer canon, it's super interesting to see what kind of ideas were being considered during the pre-production stage. Thanks again!

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Postby robersora » Thu Mar 02, 2017 6:03 am

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Cool, I thought that book was a Comiket-exclusive!
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Postby SoryuUberAlles » Thu Mar 02, 2017 12:20 pm

Hiramatsu Tadashi Animation Gashuu wrote: The first image in the book is a fun crossover. It’s a two-page spread of Rei and Pen Pen hanging out with characters from other titles such as Nadia: The Secret of Blue Water, FLCL, and Gurren Lagann.


I would like to have seen that but I guess amazon.co.jp has gotta make some money someday (hah, like hell I'll pay tariffs.)
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Thu Mar 02, 2017 1:49 pm

The illustration being referred to is from an old magazine article: https://yande.re/post/show/120922

It's really nice that we've gotten this artbook, along with two great Yoh Yoshinari ones, and all coming from STYLE. Still wishing for a great, big Takeshi Honda artbook with all the fuckton of Eva art he did.
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