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Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
I am mildly bemused by the thanking ritual. Anyone was free to not read that forum, to not take part, or to remain friendly while joining in.
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Perhaps, but the ill will it generated seeped out into the forum at large.
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"I'd consider myself a realist, alright? but in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist. It means I'm bad at parties." - Rust Cohle
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
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Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
That may be so; and of course, the unread post listings included it whether you wanted it or not (that no longer happens with the new arrangement using a separate forum, of course, which is a big change).
"Being human, having your health; that's what's important." (from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )
"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?" (from: The Eccentric Family )
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Before 3.0+1.0 there was Afterwards... my post-Q Evangelion fanfic (discussion)
"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?" (from: The Eccentric Family )
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Before 3.0+1.0 there was Afterwards... my post-Q Evangelion fanfic (discussion)
Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
I tend to think SD's been made a scapegoat of sorts, as most of the problems that have gotten people banned have occurred in other threads. Various threads in Chit-Chat, a couple in Discussion, a fair number in Rebuild, the FML thread, the News thread (which has always said "no politics" but invariably wound up including it), a few film threads, and so on and so forth. People talk about SD generating ill will, but it didn't tell me anything about forum users I didn't already know long before SD existed (and, past that, most of the ill will I've encountered -- and that I feel myself -- is based more on PMs and Skype than on anything in the SD forum).
Which is not to say shutting it down wasn't a good idea, particularly if the staff doesn't wanna deal with it. But I think you're kidding yourselves if you think getting rid of it will make the forum's problems go away. They didn't start with SD, and they sure as heck won't end with it. All you're really doing here is putting the rug back in place so you don't have to look at what lies beneath.
Which is not to say shutting it down wasn't a good idea, particularly if the staff doesn't wanna deal with it. But I think you're kidding yourselves if you think getting rid of it will make the forum's problems go away. They didn't start with SD, and they sure as heck won't end with it. All you're really doing here is putting the rug back in place so you don't have to look at what lies beneath.
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People's deaths are to be mourned. The ability to save people should be celebrated. Life itself should be exalted. -- Volken Macmani, Tatakau Shisho: The Book of Bantorra
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Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
Obligatory note for anyone who might misread the above sentence: "bemused" is a synonym of "bewildered", not "amused".
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Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
They didn't start with SD, but they sure as hell multiplied with it.
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Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
SD was created to enable such conversations to continue under containment. It was expected that a different approach to moderation would be required to keep it under control, but for several reasons, listed in the OP of this thread, that didn't work out.
"Being human, having your health; that's what's important." (from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )
"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?" (from: The Eccentric Family )
Avatar: The end of the journey (details); Past avatars.
Before 3.0+1.0 there was Afterwards... my post-Q Evangelion fanfic (discussion)
"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?" (from: The Eccentric Family )
Avatar: The end of the journey (details); Past avatars.
Before 3.0+1.0 there was Afterwards... my post-Q Evangelion fanfic (discussion)
Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
Most of these points had already been made in opposition to a serious discussion subforum to begin with, there was a very strong support for the status quo of the time, in which the staff came down hard on discussions that increasingly inched toward the political and religious, they disappeared for a time and then came back in some form, this way you doused one fire at a time instead of having 5 going continously. Now I can appreciate the subforum was made to deal with the overflowing amount of serious discussions taking place, but having a temporary blanket ban would have probably worked better.
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Well, that's the way it now is as the result of experience, so there's not really much more to say about it.
"Being human, having your health; that's what's important." (from: Magical Shopping Arcade Abenobashi )
"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?" (from: The Eccentric Family )
Avatar: The end of the journey (details); Past avatars.
Before 3.0+1.0 there was Afterwards... my post-Q Evangelion fanfic (discussion)
"As long as we're all living, and as long as we're all having fun, that should do it, right?" (from: The Eccentric Family )
Avatar: The end of the journey (details); Past avatars.
Before 3.0+1.0 there was Afterwards... my post-Q Evangelion fanfic (discussion)
Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
Is the lonely hearts thread still in SD? Might want to pull it back into the general off topic board. I don't think there's anything inflammatory about a relationship thread.
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Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
I thought it was booted on account of gratuitous descriptions of various sexual practices... Hmm.
Rest In Peace ~ 1978 - 2017
"I'd consider myself a realist, alright? but in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist. It means I'm bad at parties." - Rust Cohle
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
"I'd consider myself a realist, alright? but in philosophical terms I'm what's called a pessimist. It means I'm bad at parties." - Rust Cohle
"Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize that half of 'em are stupider than that." - George Carlin
"The internet: It's like a training camp for never amounting to anything." - Oglaf
"I think internet message boards and the like are dangerous." - Anno
Re: Serious Discussion has been permanently locked
I've gone ahead and moved it back to general off topic. thread/15359/EGFs-House-of-Lonely-Hearts/
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