Rei or Asuka?

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Postby unz » Mon Oct 19, 2015 6:48 pm

She's super short. Very important.

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Postby Gendo's New Groove » Thu Nov 19, 2015 11:07 pm

Thought this would be about one of them dying at first, lol

I don't really like Shinji X Asuka but if Shinji haaaaaad to get a wife, Asuka is my best guest. But only because I think Rei screwing over Gendo in EoE could end up happening in Final with her and Shinji, though I don't have any idea how. The SDAT could end up being a replacement for Gendo's glasses.

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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Fri Nov 20, 2015 2:02 am

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You should learn to like Asushin... or
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Postby Gendo's New Groove » Fri Nov 27, 2015 5:26 am

View Original PostChaddyManPrime wrote:You should learn to like Asushin...
I think they should be dance buddies at best. At worst, one will have strangled the other.

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Postby Bagheera » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:30 am

View Original PostGendo's New Groove wrote:I think they should be dance buddies at best. At worst, one will have strangled the other.


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Postby robersora » Fri Nov 27, 2015 11:36 am

Rei or Asuka.

Clearly, it's Mari this time around. Kaworu might be allowed to join for a threesome, though.
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Postby Gus Hanson » Fri Nov 27, 2015 2:57 pm

^ I'm hoping for ShinMari development for FINAL too. Just would be so wacky! :tongue:

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Postby unz » Fri Nov 27, 2015 3:57 pm

I wouldn't mind a marimari.

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Postby Shark Knight » Wed Feb 24, 2016 11:17 pm

I would like to see an intimate scene between Shinji and Asuka in the new Eva movie, like the one from 2.22 but even more intimate. Shinji sort of opened to her that time so it would be nice if this time she did and both of them would solve the hedgehog dilema and get close to warm each others hearts.

Besides isnt Rei practially Shinji's mother? In genetics I mean.
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Postby Monk Ed » Thu Feb 25, 2016 5:50 am

View Original PostShark Knight wrote:Besides isnt Rei practially Shinji's mother? In genetics I mean.

For at least some ReiShin shippers I've seen, that's part of the appeal. :lol:
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Postby Rosenakahara » Thu Feb 25, 2016 8:30 am

View Original PostShark Knight wrote:Besides isnt Rei practially Shinji's mother? In genetics I mean.

You be quiet you, we dont like them facts here.
(really though I have many reasons that I ship the two, the whole clone thing is literally the last thing on my mind)

View Original PostMonk Ed wrote:For at least some ReiShin shippers I've seen, that's part of the appeal. :lol:

Its ok if one is a clone :shifty:
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Postby Bagheera » Thu Feb 25, 2016 9:57 am

View Original PostMonk Ed wrote:For at least some ReiShin shippers I've seen, that's part of the appeal. :lol:


I like it when they're honest about it. "I know it's squicky. That's the point."
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Postby Shark Knight » Thu Feb 25, 2016 2:44 pm

View Original PostMonk Ed wrote:For at least some ReiShin shippers I've seen, that's part of the appeal. :lol:

:cringe: Oh man wouldnt that be like that story where some guy got laid with his mom and when he found out he literally ripped his own eyes out? Besides this is some back to the future kind of stuff. :laugh
I mean I dont mind them when it comes to crack or kind cute moments and stuff "it's actually cute when you think it is his mom in flesh and watching out for him" but if Shinji is going to end with someone and develop with another character I think Asuka would be the one to go.

Also what's this stuff about Anno not liking romance in his movies?
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Postby rathin5082 » Tue Dec 06, 2016 1:53 pm

The reason I had started watching the Rebuild tetralogy was that I had hoped to get Shinji/Asuka shipping. One of the most shocking things were that Asuka's character had been completely torn apart. Shinji/Rei is more of a mother/son relationship. It won't make any sense if those two got together. Now I'm not even sure if I'll watch the final film.

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Postby LightDragonman » Wed Dec 07, 2016 2:44 am

The Rei / Shinji thing is, as far as I'm concerned, one of the core parts of the Rebuild saga, whereas his relationship with Asuka was one of the cores of the original series. Much of what happens in Rebuild, even in 3.33, revolves around the connection that Rei and Shinji share together. Conversely, I feel that he lacks chemistry with Asuka here, whereas it was obvious in the original series.

While I don't think he'll end up with anyone in the end, since romance and pairings isn't at all the focus of Evangelion, I expect there to be at least some sort of closure to Rei and Shinji's, since again, they make up one of the main elements of the Rebuild saga, and I simply can't see the Shinji / Asuka thing happening without it coming across as a case of being strangled by the red string. Again, the reason he and Asuka being together in the original show worked was because they had built it up over the course of the entire story, with their connection being a driving force. Because Rei has pretty much supplanted Asuka in terms of the main relationship with Shinji, him suddenly being paired up with the latter now, with just one movie left to go, when said film also has to cover a whole lot more in terms of the plot, just doesn't seem plausible.
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Postby mammaluser » Tue Dec 20, 2016 6:29 pm

None actually, i think that Shinji and Asuka will end up as friends or mostly on good terms of some sorts at the end of 3.0 + 1.0, and with Rei of course nothing will happen, she'll probably sacrifice or something will happen to her.
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Postby Geometer » Mon Dec 26, 2016 12:27 pm

Obviously an extremely sexually frustrated Asuka is going to, errr, get revenge for her past life, on the catatonic Shinji if you know what I mean. More seriously though I agree that shipping probably wont happen this time around. LRS is doomed from the start. LAS is more likely, but there is just so much more shit that need get sorted out. Hopefully we can see Asuka and Shinji reconcile and then maybe leave it open for the future. Doubt they will go for Sakura and Mari is just Mari.

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Postby Kendrix » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:28 am

The whole point of Rei is that she is her own person despite all the limiting factors such as being created from Yui/Lillith & used as Gendo's tool. To completely reduce her relationship with the guy who was, at the very least, the closest thing she had to a friend to Yui's relationship with him is to miss that point.
(Besides, despite her good intentions, Yui abandoned and used her son as much as Gendo did, and os 3.33, Shinji knows this. )
Neither of the two even knew anything about Yui for most of their time together, and at the end of 2.22 their actions were completely antithetical, with Yui being like "Gendo dear, put the baby back in the fucking robot." whereas as Rei respects his choice there. (though I there's probably also a vicarious factor, if you look at how she tells Asuka that she doesn't need the EVA to be happy; 2.0 Rei is quite aware that she can't quit NERV any more than a fish can quit water, but that Shinji and Asuka can.)
Yui was born into power and privilege; Rei was a sad child soldier deprived of everything but the bare minimum.

If anything Q should have crushed the whole idea that Shinji just likes Rei because she's obedient or looks like Yui or some other bs that ignores her entire character, because, doesn't ReiQ also look like Yui?

Obsly Rei is an inherently tragic character and the looming surprise incest revelation is one of many parts of that;

But, like, a tragic ending doesn't mean it's not canon; Otherwise even the glaring cheese-tastic obviousness Jack/Rose and Romeo/Juliet never happened, and the bond there, whatever you want to call it, has been developed through all 3 movies whereas Asuka got half an arc of one-sided interest and Mari never went past vague interest (though she was supposed to have more happen there in sme draft scenes; Now, of course, they're both to old for him anyways) so naturally it would somehow come up in the finale, probably a 'spirit guide' like farewell scene during some impact scene;


Also at this point the situation went to hell so fast there's no more room for silly homeroom antics and that's one of the big point of Q, so I don't think anyone seriously expects a return to that or for such concerns - Shinji's odds are so grim, any state genuinely preferable to death would constitute a best case scenario at this point.

I' not expecting more than a farewell scene on the blue front (and/or some circumstance after which Asuka vaguely respects him and uses his name again instead of calling him a brat.)
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Postby Joseki » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:35 am

But Asuka in Q still calls Shinji with the nickname she chose during the intimate bed scene in 2.0 which is "baka-Shinji", changing it to "Shinji" in Final would be a step back from Q and not a step forward in their relationship since it will have nothing personal to it.

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Postby Kendrix » Wed Dec 28, 2016 11:43 am

View Original PostJoseki wrote:But Asuka in Q still calls Shinji with the nickname she chose during the intimate bed scene in 2.0 which is "baka-Shinji", changing it to "Shinji" in Final would be a step back from Q and not a step forward in their relationship since it will have nothing personal to it.



There is nothing personal, cute or intimate about hammering somebody with insults every time they're near you - It was a step forward for Asuka at the time because, at least she was beginning to see him and not a role she had assigned to him before even meeting him ("Daddy's boy") and she's very limited in the ways her pride lets her express affection.

But, they could simply go back to baka Shinji, too, because even that would be a definite improvement to "Go down quietly you stupid brat."
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