Evangelion 4.0, do you really want an alternate ending?

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Postby Ray » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:05 pm

The TV Ending could have worked if Anno had a proper budget and a full schedule at the time.

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We've had three movies, and a TV Series with a movie finale that required us to think. Think to the point our brains bled out of our ears.

All I want is an ironclad, obviously happy ending for Shinji. Or barring that at least an ending where it's believable he can move on and have a semi meaningful life after the credits roll. Unlike EOE. . .

But that'd be too easy for Anno, so I'm bracing for the worst.

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Do I want an alternate ending? Yes. Will I get one? I highly doubt it, but I won't be mad if I don't.

Edit: The only thing I personally think should be different is that Gendo get a fate infinitely worse than the one he got in EOE. I think we deserve at least that much.
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Postby Jimbob » Thu Jan 15, 2015 4:30 pm

View Original PostStillborn wrote:Bayformers insults my inteligence and good taste. Anno insults peoples' preferences.


Exactly. It's just BS on the other end of the spectrum.

Also I sure as hell didn't feel the need to reevaluate my life after watching Eva.

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Postby Monk Ed » Thu Jan 15, 2015 7:31 pm

View Original PostFreakyFilmFan4ever wrote:^ It’s almost like it’s not a real Eva ending unless it pisses everyone off. :devil:

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Postby Mr. Tines » Fri Jan 16, 2015 2:02 am

The cliche of a "Gainax ending" came from somewhere.
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Postby Fredsq » Fri Jan 16, 2015 6:36 pm

View Original PostJäeger wrote:I hardly could call that a happy ending : those are not the characters we knew

That's why the ending sucks

You could see the ending with LAS googles and say "oh, fate!!!!!", but it would suck anyway.


Well compared to EoE that was quite uplifting. It was the coward choice of Shinji, yes. But we didn’t get any major character brutally murdered or even suffering much. They ended up all good, lobotomised and happy with normal lives.

I wish it didn’t end in an impact or instrumentality at all.

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Postby AR-99 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 4:53 pm

Don't have any expectations of what will happen with this ending. That way I may be able to cope either way and overthink it afterwards.
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Sat Jan 17, 2015 5:09 pm

I got a question, say the loop theory turns out to be true and the ending is actually the beginning of Second Impact, would that count as an ending to you?
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Postby Jäeger » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:09 am

View Original PostFredsq wrote:Well compared to EoE that was quite uplifting. It was the coward choice of Shinji, yes. But we didn’t get any major character brutally murdered or even suffering much. They ended up all good, lobotomised and happy with normal lives.

I wish it didn’t end in an impact or instrumentality at all.


i don't agree, they are not even lobotomised characters : just reincarnations, new ones.

Oh my god, how much I hate those kind of endings.
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Postby Vegeta 20XX » Sun Jan 18, 2015 6:00 pm

To be honest, all I really want from FINAL is that it be at least somewhat unexpected, even to someone who has seen NGE and EoE, who would expect something like that from Anno in the first place. Some sort of positive resolution for Shinji would be refreshing, particularly one explicit enough for the audience compared to the more perspective-dependent EoTV ending and the somewhat open-ended EoE, but that doesn't make a far less optimistic conclusion undesirable on it's own merits.

I'm inclined to think that FINAL won't go along the optimism curve, given that 3.0 at least hints at the possibility of a uplifting ending of some kind in it's final scene (don't take my word on it, though - more of an impression I got from it) - it's hard not to assume that the ending will take the viewer by surprise, especially given Evangelion's track record.

Then again, who's to say that a happy(ish?) ending isn't the most unexpected one?
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Postby Adaminator1 » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:22 am

It's not a matter of what I want. It's a matter of what Anno wants.

The thing that matters is whether or not I like what he wants, and it's too early to tell. So far though, signs point to yes.
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Postby Rosenakahara » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:35 am

As long as its good enough to stick with me throughout my life like the Jesus blibet Meinee Freunde section of EoE was then im fine with any ending anno hands out.
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Postby Atropos » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:06 am

It'd be pretty awesome if Anno decided to do an EoTV-styled ending for the conclusion. It'd piss off everyone who wanted to see an awesome climactic robot fight.

...but I don't expect he will, because he himself seems to be more interested in robot fights than characters at this point.

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Postby Rosenakahara » Mon Jan 19, 2015 8:17 am

Ok im just gonna say it now because this criticism is pissing me off, did you actually watch 3.0? 90% of that movie was kaworu and Shinji fucking around at nerv, the robot battles didn't even fully make up the 10% that is left.
A good chunk of 2.0 was devoted to developing rebuild Rei's character and her relationship with Shinji and 1.0 was just the first few episodes with important scene changes, stop acting like this was some fucking micheal bay movie! :asuka_geh:

if you don't like the rebuild movies then you have the right to voice your opinion but please come up with criticisms that are actually valid.
I expect slightly better out of eva fans.

(this will probably start an argument, but im not sorry because im getting real tired of this constant whining about anything rebuild related)
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Postby Atropos » Mon Jan 19, 2015 1:55 pm

Lol, this is like the first time I've criticized Rebuild since I joined the forum. I could elaborate on my problems with the new movies, but this isn't the thread for that.

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Postby Rosenakahara » Mon Jan 19, 2015 2:01 pm

this wasn't aimed totally at you, just that specific argument that is tossed around a lot as to why rebuild is somehow bad.
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Mon Jan 19, 2015 3:10 pm

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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:02 pm

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Postby Na7e » Mon Jan 19, 2015 6:35 pm

View Original PostRosenakahara wrote:if you don't like the rebuild movies then you have the right to voice your opinion but please come up with criticisms that are actually valid.


It's not like he's wrong. Every character not named Shinji is either vapid, uninteresting, or just used as a prop for his development. And, Shinji isn't all that compelling in the first place either.

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Postby xanderkh » Mon Jan 19, 2015 7:03 pm

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Speak for yourself dude. ^_^

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