Was watching EoE and a few lines seemed to fit with 3.0...

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Was watching EoE and a few lines seemed to fit with 3.0...

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Postby Th3Marauder » Sun Dec 14, 2014 9:24 am

Just after the start of Third Impact, we see Seele 08 and 09 deliver these two lines

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Hmm, that's kinda close, could be translated differently to Infinity...
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Let's see, what's next...
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HMM!
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Postby robersora » Sun Dec 14, 2014 10:55 am

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I'm pretty sure that they used "eien" for eternity in EoE, while in ENT they chose to go with the English term "Infinity", so I guess in that case at least they might have made a deliberate distinction.
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Postby airman4 » Sun Dec 14, 2014 8:00 pm

Not surprised
Many compared Q to EoE !!

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Postby Sachi » Tue Dec 16, 2014 2:51 pm

Q is riddled with references to EoE. The ruins of Neo-Nerv really look as though the JSSDF attacked as they did in EoE, particularly with the bakelite flood in the Eva hanger and the craters from explosives and such. I'm really glad the Red Earth Purification Ceremony idea was reinvigorated with actual imagery of a red Earth in the Post-3I world.

EDIT: here's another really good relevant thread: http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/15850/Evangelion-30-and-EoE-A-potential-parallel-connection/
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Postby robersora » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:17 pm

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Well, Jo mirrors 1-6, Ha mirrors 8-19 and Q mirrors 24-EOE. The real question is, with nothing left to mirror, where will Final go?
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Postby Sachi » Tue Dec 16, 2014 3:22 pm

View Original Postrobersora wrote:^
Well, Jo mirrors 1-6, Ha mirrors 8-19 and Q mirrors 24-EOE. The real question is, with nothing left to mirror, where will Final go?

That's a bit of an oversimplification, IMO, and for that, here's this other really good thread: http://forum.evageeks.org/thread/13436/Our-Mistake-with-20-and-30-as-post-EoE-fiction/
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Postby robersora » Tue Dec 16, 2014 4:42 pm

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Sometimes I really ask myself, how I always manag to overlook the most interesting contributions on the forums. Thank you, I'll read a little into it. As twisted as Xard represents himself on the forums, he is a pretty sharp thinker.
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Postby airman4 » Thu Dec 18, 2014 8:37 am

View Original Postrobersora wrote:^
Well, Jo mirrors 1-6, Ha mirrors 8-19 and Q mirrors 24-EOE. The real question is, with nothing left to mirror, where will Final go?


To a fresh and new land i suppose like Q is showing the path

Hope more space scenes

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Postby unitM » Sat Dec 20, 2014 1:56 pm

There are crazy amounts of references in Q with EoE. For example, Q has Eva 13, while EoE has 13 MP Evas that initiate instrumentality(with the 13th in the center of the geometry). I was going to make a separate thread on this but got lazy.

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Postby Reichu » Sat Dec 20, 2014 10:02 pm

View Original PostunitM wrote:EoE has 13 MP Evas that initiate instrumentality

Hate to break it to you, but there are actually just nine.

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Postby unitM » Sun Dec 21, 2014 3:06 am

View Original PostReichu wrote:Hate to break it to you, but there are actually just nine.
Unit-13 flashing on the screen still seems suspicious.

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Postby ElMariachi » Sun Dec 21, 2014 7:58 am

Flashing in which screen?
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Postby UrsusArctos » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:50 am

View Original PostunitM wrote:Unit-13 flashing on the screen still seems suspicious.


Same question that El Mariachi asked.

By the way, the MP Evas continue the same Evangelion numbering. So after Eva-00, Eva-01, Eva-02, Eva-03 and Eva-04, the MP Evas start out at Eva-05 and go up to Eva-13, for a total of nine MP Evas.

The other five Evas don't count as MP Evas, so you can't include them. (Besides, that's 14 Evangelions in total here, not 13)
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Postby Reichu » Sun Dec 21, 2014 8:56 am

View Original PostUrsusArctos wrote:Same question that El Mariachi asked.

It's right before they sprout their fugly Rei faces.

Also, what Ursus said.

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Postby unitM » Sun Dec 21, 2014 11:32 am

I understand that, physically, they might not have numbered up to 13. Visually, in that one scene I am mentioning, there was an EVA-13. That one was shown to be in the center of the other MPs and in GNR's neck area(the sacred geometry lines up).

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Postby Reichu » Sun Dec 21, 2014 12:21 pm

View Original PostunitM wrote:I understand that, physically, they might not have numbered up to 13. Visually, in that one scene I am mentioning, there was an EVA-13.

But that's not what you saaaaaiiiiiid...

View Original PostunitM wrote:Q has Eva 13, while EoE has 13 MP Evas that initiate instrumentality(with the 13th in the center of the geometry).


Nyuk nyuk! In any case, I'm not sure what's loldeep about having the Eva Series go up to 13 in both versions, or why it matters if the MP #13 was in the middle. Given the mention of "sacred geometry", I probably don't want to know.

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Postby unitM » Sun Jan 18, 2015 1:22 am

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If Eva 13 is in the middle, which is where GNR's neck stump is, Gendo has the the Key of Nez. in the Rebuild series, which noticeably ends at the neck. There's a lot of neck imagery in Q too. I'm not offering a conclusion but rather am just pointing out these that are related and that I consider important.

EDIT I have some important news folks. This is regarding EoE and the loop theory. In lesser terms, you could say this is a point for loop theorists. But in all reality, I showed my friend EoE last night and ran into this.

When Shinji rejected instrumentality in EoE, all these MP Evas went pop with the spear they embedded in themselves.
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Then they floated away.
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We're given a clear shot of this one with it's core still there.
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But then, only 3 are shown to be descending towards earth. The other ones are nowhere to be seen in this scene. (The scene is pretty long too - even as the green instrumentality crosses rise, you still have a clear view of the sky, and you can easily see if anything else falls)
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There are 4 adams in the new series right? That's 3 MP Evas... the 4th would be unit 01.

Why do I include 01? Because, assuming the core is intact, the MP Evas have a Rei in them. They all have Rei faces. This one in particular has five Reis in it.
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4 Reis for 4 adams(though I have no clue to shoulder what I'm saying into a worthwhile theory)

Bonus pic of Eva 01 looking like an Adam from the new short.
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