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Postby gatotsu911 » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:21 pm

Wait, is this the wiki run by You-Know-Who?
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Postby UrsusArctos » Tue Mar 01, 2011 10:31 pm

Nope. You-Know-Who has nothing to do with this.

Thank you, drinian. I think the credit notice would help as well.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Mar 02, 2011 12:31 am

You're the best, Drew me boy. :kawaii:

Going through Blackout's contributions history around the time he imported those articles would probably bring up a lot of instances where he ported our content to preexisting articles. I'm too retarded right now to figure out how to do that, though... I guess I can gradually go through their crap and compile my own list, too.

This one kind of gives us credit, but in a ghetto sort of way.

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Core

And some more:

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/LCL
http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Evangelion_Unit-01
http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Armisael

Is there any real pattern to what was ported and what wasn't? o_O

I wish the people who wrote the really detailed character stuff (whether for Wikipedia or wikia) would come and help us out... The particular obsessions of the few people who contribute the most to our Wiki is a bit on the glaring side.

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Postby Ornette » Wed Mar 02, 2011 4:02 am

It looks like the "Revision history" link needs an "&amp;" changed to "&" in the template. Actually, it looks like wikia encodes the "&" in external links.
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Postby drinian » Wed Mar 02, 2011 8:58 pm

View Original PostOrnette wrote:It looks like the "Revision history" link needs an "&amp;" changed to "&" in the template. Actually, it looks like wikia encodes the "&" in external links.

Can you provide an example? I haven't tested every link, but revision history seems to work fine from the ones I've tried.

Reichu wrote:I wish the people who wrote the really detailed character stuff (whether for Wikipedia or wikia) would come and help us out...

There was also a really good example of the dangers of drive-by editing from an anonymous contributor yesterday:
http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Evangelions
All of the children born in this year only have half-souls, according to The End of Evangelion, SEELE members state this: "the half soul of the Evangelion unites with the half- soul of the pilot"

Is my memory failing me, or is that a complete fabrication? Just curious.
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Postby Ornette » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:05 pm

For me, this page's evawiki template: http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/LCL

takes me to this page: http://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=LCL&amp;action=history

And it should be: http://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=LCL&action=history

It looks like the template is correct, but the ampersand is being HTML encoded.
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Postby Reichu » Wed Mar 02, 2011 9:13 pm

View Original Postdrinian wrote:Is my memory failing me, or is that a complete fabrication? Just curious.

You remember correctly, sir! That edit is the sort of thing one expects to find in Rebuild speculation. :hahaha:

EDIT: It now occurs to me, that person is probably very creatively reimagining the line where Seele are all, "Eva-01's pilot, complement humanity with your imperfect ego!"

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Postby drinian » Thu Mar 03, 2011 12:23 pm

View Original PostOrnette wrote:It looks like the template is correct, but the ampersand is being HTML encoded.

Odd. Which browser are you using?
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Postby Ornette » Thu Mar 03, 2011 2:14 pm

View Original Postdrinian wrote:Odd. Which browser are you using?

Firefox.
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Postby drinian » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:15 pm

I've added credits to the template pages. I can't reproduce Ornette's bug.

That should cover everything, right? I'm watching edits to all of these pages now, but it's very quiet over there.
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Postby Ornette » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:33 pm

Not sure why it's happening to me but not anyone else. It's the same in Opera, Epiphany, Chromium, Arora, and Konqueror. Here's a screenshot: http://www.tesuji.org/tmp/evawikia_ss.jpg
(My mouse cursor doesn't show up but it's right over the "revision history" and you can see the link in my status bar below. I tried signing up and it still shows up as &amp;

I also tried Safari and Firefox on my girlfriend's Mac, same thing. The thing is, in Firefox, the &amp; gets interpreted as an &amp;, but on the Mac Firefox knew to unencode the &amp; to just a "&" and the link works.
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Postby drinian » Sun Mar 06, 2011 3:41 pm

OK, I'm seeing that in Chromium now. Hadn't been paying attention to the status bar before.

I've just made it into an unambiguous "&amp;" in the source, and I'm hoping that will at least work properly in most browsers, even if it doesn't look right.

The only reference I could find to why this would be happening on a MediaWiki install, section "Many errors on validator.w3.org":

http://community.wikia.com/wiki/Forum:Wikia%27s_New_Style

isn't very helpful.
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Postby Ornette » Sun Mar 06, 2011 5:47 pm

I edited the EvaWiki template so that the revision history URL is built so that it relies on mod_rewrite.

http://wiki.evageeks.org/LCL?action=history

instead of

http://wiki.evageeks.org/index.php?title=LCL&amp;action=history

The first works because mod_rewrite sees the title (everything after the 3rd "/" up to the first ? or &) and does the rewrite of the URI so that it's what it should be.
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Postby drinian » Sun Mar 06, 2011 9:00 pm

Thanks!
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Postby gwern » Wed Jul 06, 2011 10:52 am

It's too bad Dream Focus isn't working with us; he's a pretty good editor on Wikipedia, one of the few anime editors I really get along with.

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Postby ReiAyanami25 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 11:57 pm

View Original PostOrnette wrote:It looks like a lot of these pages that were created were taken from here

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Evangelions
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Evangelions

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Lilin
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Lilin

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/LCL
http://wiki.evageeks.org/LCL

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_01
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Episode_01

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Episode_Infobox
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:Episode_Infobox

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Episode_List
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:Episode_List

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:MontageBox
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:MontageBox

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Misato%27s_Car
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Misato%27s_Car

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Imagebox
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:Imagebox

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:RebuildofEvaMovies
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:RebuildofEvaMovies

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Evangelion_1.0:_You_Are_%28Not%29_Alone
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Evangelion_1.0:_You_Are_%28Not%29_Alone

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Rebuild_Infobox
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:Rebuild_Infobox

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Hideaki_Anno
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Hideaki_Anno

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Laptop-frame
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:Laptop-frame

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:EpisodeListHead
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:EpisodeListHead

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:EpisodeListRow
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:EpisodeListRow

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:EpisodeListFoot
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:EpisodeListFoot

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Naoko_Akagi
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Naoko_Akagi
(sans other media section)

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Character_List
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:Character_List

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Evangelion_-_Death_and_Rebirth
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Evangelion:_Death_and_Rebirth

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Revival_of_Evangelion
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Revival_of_Evangelion

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Evangelion_-_Death
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Evangelion:_Death

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Evangelion_-_Rebirth
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Evangelion:_Rebirth

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Episode_10
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Episode_10

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Evangelion_List
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:Evangelion_List

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Failed_Evangelion_Prototypes
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Failed_Evangelion_Prototypes

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Mass_Production_Evangelions
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Mass_Production_Evangelions

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Shinji_Ikari_%28Other_Media%29
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Shinji_Ikari_%28Other_Media%29

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Spoilers
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:Spoilers

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Template:Angel_List
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Template:Angel_List

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Seed_of_Life
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Seed_of_Life

http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Angels_%28Adam%27s_Children%29
http://wiki.evageeks.org/Angels_%28Adam%27s_Children%29


That is extremely rude and unfair. does this site have copyright laws placed upon it?

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Postby Ornette » Sun Sep 11, 2011 3:37 pm

View Original PostReiAyanami25 wrote:That is extremely rude and unfair. does this site have copyright laws placed upon it?

http://wiki.evageeks.org/The_NGE_Fan-Geeks_Project:Copyrights
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Fri Nov 21, 2014 5:42 pm

I've noticed some of the pages still have things copy/pasted without credit. :|

2 examples, might poke around more later:

The footnote about how Mitsuishi had breast issues diagnosed as benign is lifted word for word how I wrote it on our wiki years ago, for instance: http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Kotono_Mitsuishi

http://wiki.evageeks.org/Kotono_Mitsuishi

Graves disease and wording character roles as "and many others": http://evangelion.wikia.com/wiki/Yuko_Miyamura

http://wiki.evageeks.org/Yuko_Miyamura

At least some of the information on the seiyuu pages is original research, but copying stuff word for word from us is NOT okay, IMO.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Fri Nov 21, 2014 7:10 pm

It absolutely isn't okay. How did we deal with it in the past? All the old material in this thread is from before I joined.


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