Thoughts about Mari

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The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

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Postby ElMariachi » Mon Sep 01, 2014 3:55 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:They built a giant flying whale ship made out of pen pen, I think they can figure out a two pilot Eva.

That's assuming that they are the ones that built that thing, they could had also stolen it from SEELE, they are the kind of guys who would create such a thing, they have the perfect taste for that kind of machinery, remember the Harpies! :tongue:
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed Sep 03, 2014 2:28 pm

I don't remember where I read this, but there was a statement somewhere talking about how Mari hatred was mostly from people that considered Shinji, Rei, and Asuka to be the only legitimate pilots. They phrased it as 1.0 setting up Shinji and Rei as pilots, and 2.0 merely introducing two new pilots instead of "reuniting the original cast with an extra character".

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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:24 pm

I don't usually pay attention to this stuff mostly because I think it's fucking stupid to think a certain storyboard outside of the final product is even semi-canon but I just found out in a early storyboard Asuka and Mari were going to dual pilot Unit 02 in 2.0, perhaps they changed it to the final movie?
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Postby Mr. Tines » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:49 pm

I just had this thought about Mari -- we so far have absolutely no reason given (in universe) why she's even a Makinami, rather than, say, a McInerny. But then the same could be said of Shikinami not being a Schicklgruber, in this new world order.
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Postby ThanatosII » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:53 pm

Plot twist: She's Asuka's half sister from Asuka's stepmother and father.

(I don't say that with serious intentions since that would mean she would be much younger than Asuka and since we don't know the status of Asuka's parents...but it's an interesting thought I guess)
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Postby Chuckman » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:58 pm

Still you resist. The girls all have names referencing the same class of ship as the Ayanami.

They're different lines of clones. The hints are all over the place.
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Fri Sep 12, 2014 2:59 pm

@ Thanatos

I personally like to believe that Mari the part of Asuka that got her mother's looks and Shikinami is the Asuka that looks more like her father.
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Postby ElMariachi » Fri Sep 12, 2014 3:55 pm

View Original PostMr. Tines wrote:I just had this thought about Mari -- we so far have absolutely no reason given (in universe) why she's even a Makinami, rather than, say, a McInerny. But then the same could be said of Shikinami not being a Schicklgruber, in this new world order.

That's because she's half-Japanese, like Asuka I don't see where's the problem?
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:29 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:They're different lines of clones. The hints are all over the place.

If this turns out to be true I'm going to nerd all over myself.

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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Fri Sep 12, 2014 4:53 pm

@ Chuck

Who are they clones of?
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Postby Chuckman » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:17 pm

The woman in the picture might be Mari's clone-sire. Nothing like a hint at Asuka's background has been given. Does she even blurt things in German in NTE?
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:19 pm

^
No she doesn't which I find really really suspicious, I have my own theories on why that is.
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:25 pm

My first theories are simply Yuko Miyamura speaking horrible German.

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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:30 pm

^
Didn't Anno say that he liked how she spoke German or was that Tiffany Grant?
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Postby FreakyFilmFan4ever » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:41 pm

Well, of course Anno was pleased with Miyamura’s german because he directed. I think he also stated that he liked Tiffany Grant in general. I’m not sure if he gave any specifics, though.

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Postby ThanatosII » Fri Sep 12, 2014 6:42 pm

View Original PostChaddyManPrime wrote:^
Didn't Anno say that he liked how she spoke German or was that Tiffany Grant?


Tiffany found the German hilarious since it wasn't German at all, so she had to rewrite some of the dialogue from scratch.
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Postby ElMariachi » Fri Sep 12, 2014 8:22 pm

View Original PostChuckman wrote:The woman in the picture might be Mari's clone-sire. Nothing like a hint at Asuka's background has been given. Does she even blurt things in German in NTE?

No, but the official site confirms that she's still part-German, and her boxes in 2.0 are labeled "DHL", which is a company which fused with "Deutsche Post", a German courier company. (and the largest in the world)
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Postby Chuckman » Fri Sep 12, 2014 10:43 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote:No, but the official site


Away, away paratext. Shoo.

Okay, a German clone.
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Postby ChaddyManPrime » Fri Sep 12, 2014 11:35 pm

Silly idea, like really really silly. What if Mari is Shinji and Asuka? Kinda like a fusion of sorts. And like they did the whole traveling back in time thing trying to fix shit and that's why everything is a little different. Like the reason Shikinami is different from Soryu is because they stopped Asuka's mom from committing suicide?

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Postby ElMariachi » Sat Sep 13, 2014 6:25 am

That would make Mari ship teasing Shinji and Asuka really disturbing.
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Seriously, that is the most fananked theory I've ever heard, more than Mari being Marty McFly travelling through time to keep her parents (Asushin) together. -- Jäeger


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