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Postby Evanerd » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:30 pm

How do you insert pictures? i can't figure this out. i try the code, put it doesn't work. please explain the url part to me

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Postby Ornette » Wed Jul 31, 2013 2:52 pm

http://forum.evageeks.org/faq.php#24

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Postby Mr. Tines » Wed Jul 31, 2013 3:02 pm

Looking at the post in the images thread, I see one thing missed from the FAQ : the URL has to end in an image-like file extension -- .gif, jpg, .png -- or the simpleminded forum software doesn't turn the BBCode into HTML img tags.
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Postby Evanerd » Wed Jul 31, 2013 4:18 pm

Thanks

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Postby Stan » Wed Aug 07, 2013 9:50 am

So let me get this straight, you are not allowed to hotlink images (meaning you can't simply insert its web address with the [img] tags). So you advice people here to make accounts on random websites that let you upload your own photo gallery and hotlink them from there? WHAT? Isn't that basically the same issue...

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Postby Mr. Tines » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:11 am

Image-hosting sites have that as their core business and monetise it in one way or another. Other sites don't, and often protect against use of their server bandwidth by serving up things you didn't ask for -- 9000px wide images or goatse gifs and similar.
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Postby Melchior » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:13 am

View Original PostStan wrote:So let me get this straight, you are not allowed to hotlink images (meaning you can't simply insert its web address with the [timg] tags). So you advice people here to make accounts on random websites that let you upload your own photo gallery and hotlink them from there? WHAT? Isn't that basically the same issue...



Assuming I understand you (which, it's entirely possible I don't... coffee uptake and all)...
The board itself doesn't have an uploading mechanism to directly go from your computer to the forum and give it a native url (evageeks.org/images/picturenamehere1.jpg). It is because of that, that you must upload from an external hosting source and then link it here.

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Postby riffraff11235 » Wed Aug 07, 2013 10:39 am

Tines is right: if you hotlink an image from a site you're taking up bandwith on that site's server without it actually getting a hit. Another thing you could do is search for the image using Google and see if any of the hits are already on an image hosting site. Then, assuming the image is public, you can post that instead.
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Postby Ornette » Wed Aug 07, 2013 11:04 am

View Original PostStan wrote:So let me get this straight, you are not allowed to hotlink images (meaning you can't simply insert its web address with the [timg] tags). So you advice people here to make accounts on random websites that let you upload your own photo gallery and hotlink them from there? WHAT? Isn't that basically the same issue...

The list of sites that the forum prevents hotlinking to are the ones that actively prevent this from happening. Meaning that when you embed something in a post, you see the image that you've embedded, since your browser has already cached that, but everyone else sees something different. If the site were polite about it, everyone else would see something relatively benign, and if you posted a ton of images, everyone else would just see a bunch of those benign warning images instead of what you think you're posting. Worse, the site can be aggressive about its anti-hotlinking, will instead switch the image with something a little more nasty. You think you've posted an image with a cat making a funny face, everyone else sees random gay porn, "I <3 Justin Bieber" images, "I give great blowjobs" images, or even auto-generated images saying stuff like "My IP is XXX.XXX.XX.XXX and I host child pornography". Most of the time, people who hotlink and their images have been replaced like this would never know that it's happened, for days or even a week, until their browser cache has expired. By then, if it's a random image dump thread, it would have been forgotten.

Other various annoying techniques exist as well, like on my site, tesuji.org, there's some hotlinking rules that instead redirect you to a vhost whose only content is a warning image but with a cband setting of 1byte per second max throughput, so everyone else who happens to see the hotlinked image will just have their browser spin for a very long time, without ever timing out. Ultimately, they leave the page, or the site, and give up since the browser will never load the content.

Our forum rules about not-hotlinking has a very helpful link describing what it is, and why it's generally a bad idea, including examples of "switcheroo" images.

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed Aug 07, 2013 2:20 pm

Just reupload the images on imgur. That's what I do with anything that I feel like posting on Evageeks.

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Postby Mr. Tines » Wed Aug 07, 2013 3:59 pm

In order to get round the "but I can see the image" effect, open your post in a completely different browser (e.g. that copy of Opera/IE/Amaya/... you only fire up when doing cross-browser testing of your own HTML coding) and check what you get.
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Postby Stan » Wed Aug 07, 2013 4:21 pm

View Original PostOrnette wrote:The list of sites that the forum prevents hotlinking to are the ones that actively prevent this from happening. Meaning that when you embed something in a post, you see the image that you've embedded, since your browser has already cached that, but everyone else sees something different. If the site were polite about it, everyone else would see something relatively benign, and if you posted a ton of images, everyone else would just see a bunch of those benign warning images instead of what you think you're posting. Worse, the site can be aggressive about its anti-hotlinking, will instead switch the image with something a little more nasty. You think you've posted an image with a cat making a funny face, everyone else sees random gay porn, "I <3 Justin Bieber" images, "I give great blowjobs" images, or even auto-generated images saying stuff like "My IP is XXX.XXX.XX.XXX and I host child pornography". Most of the time, people who hotlink and their images have been replaced like this would never know that it's happened, for days or even a week, until their browser cache has expired. By then, if it's a random image dump thread, it would have been forgotten.

Other various annoying techniques exist as well, like on my site, tesuji.org, there's some hotlinking rules that instead redirect you to a vhost whose only content is a warning image but with a cband setting of 1byte per second max throughput, so everyone else who happens to see the hotlinked image will just have their browser spin for a very long time, without ever timing out. Ultimately, they leave the page, or the site, and give up since the browser will never load the content.

Our forum rules about not-hotlinking has a very helpful link describing what it is, and why it's generally a bad idea, including examples of "switcheroo" images.


Alright, sounds good. It's a slightly complicated procedure but I get that it's the only way around "Justin Bieber P0rn" haha

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Postby Ornette » Wed Aug 07, 2013 5:21 pm

And just to be clear, the list of sites that the forum prevents you from hotlinking from are there because someone hotlinked an image from there, and we saw something that represented active hotlink prevention (e.g. goatse images), so we added it to the list to prevent that from happening again. By no means is this a complete list, since there's no way to know all the sites on the internet that monitor image referers [sic].


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