So i recently did an evangelion marathon...
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So i recently did an evangelion marathon...
So i recently did an Evangelion marathon the platinum boxed set ( with direcotrs cut episodes) including the controversial episodes 25 and 26 + death and rebirth + end of evangelion in one sitting, only breaks were to change disc's, now i remember seeing a snip it or 2 of this show when i was a younger lad and through my recent spree of anime collecting i got the evangelion series and was so so so pumped to watch it, and now i know why i was told not to marathon the series
...my mind has gone to mush i cant even comprehend it i think its actually made me kind of depressed like seriously, what is my life, what is reality hnnnngh, What is the actual fuck am i doing with my life...
But in short lovely anime the re mastered version with directors cut are quite remarkable and well id suggest the series to anyone but Marathoning it without knowing what your getting into is a huge mistake....ive been walking around like an emotionless zombie for the past day now...
In short has anyone else done this and had a similar thing happen to them
Shinji "Why can't I dream that I'm alone"
Rei "That is not a dream that is a substitute for reality"
Shinji "So where is my dream?"
Rei "it is a continuation of reality"
Shinji "But where is my reality"
Rei "It is at the end of your dream"
...my mind has gone to mush i cant even comprehend it i think its actually made me kind of depressed like seriously, what is my life, what is reality hnnnngh, What is the actual fuck am i doing with my life...
But in short lovely anime the re mastered version with directors cut are quite remarkable and well id suggest the series to anyone but Marathoning it without knowing what your getting into is a huge mistake....ive been walking around like an emotionless zombie for the past day now...
In short has anyone else done this and had a similar thing happen to them
Shinji "Why can't I dream that I'm alone"
Rei "That is not a dream that is a substitute for reality"
Shinji "So where is my dream?"
Rei "it is a continuation of reality"
Shinji "But where is my reality"
Rei "It is at the end of your dream"
Re: So i recently did an evangelion marathon...
I still don't know what this means.
Anyways, don't worry about it, we were all facefucked at the end of series.
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mmm it just really mess's with your head anime's like this with such a heavy physiological aspect to them are magnificent but i dont think anyone can watch this series without feeling a sence of as you so quaintly put it a face fucking :P, on a lighter note looking forward to the 3.33 english dub ? i watched 1.11 and 2.22 afterwards aswell and im undecided as to which one i like more to be honest
Although I watched both movies once, I am waiting for all the movies to release before I make a decision like that. Anyways, since this is a chronological story, it's difficult to state which one is the best, due to (if the storytelling is good) all the events relying on each other in order to have happened.
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"Life is becoming more and more indistinguishable from Onion articles." ~Monk Ed
"Oh my gods, that is awesome. I am inclined to forgive both Grant and the dub in general for that." ~Bagheera
"I don't try to engage in intelligent conversation here anymore."~Chee
"Look, if loving a clone of your mom is wrong, I don't wanna be right." ~Chuckman
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The Moats of Quotes
"Life is becoming more and more indistinguishable from Onion articles." ~Monk Ed
"Oh my gods, that is awesome. I am inclined to forgive both Grant and the dub in general for that." ~Bagheera
"I don't try to engage in intelligent conversation here anymore."~Chee
"Look, if loving a clone of your mom is wrong, I don't wanna be right." ~Chuckman
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Re: So i recently did an evangelion marathon...
Anno's an artist and he works in "giving shape to dreams", i think that is one of the two essential answers.
I'm kinda glad you mention the Jesus Bleibet Meune Freunde (or however it's called in that akward language) because eventually it grew up to be one of my favorite scenes in EoE and quite likely all of Eva as well, on par with Komm Susser Todd, "I. Shinji", Episode 4 or EoTV. I don't know if i can get into detail of why it impacted me so much but the sheer boldness of the scene and the double reading (as in, carrying a different meaning for an artist/creator than for an spectator) of the meaning or value of dreams, art and fantasy made it one of the most memorable scenes in anything ever.
Also, sometimes it seems i was the only person who didn't really feel "facefucked" when i finished NGE... Never marathoned it though.
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Re: So i recently did an evangelion marathon...
Yep.
I've watched Eva four times now, every one of them a marathon like you describe. The only exception was the first time I didn't watch EoE till about a week after because I thought it was just a recap movie, and the third where I missed most of the first half of the series because it was part of the streaming marathon Fireball references.
Yea, that reaction of yours I quoted? Standard fare.
Marathoning it is the only way to go for me. It's like escalating on a drug, man. Once you start snorting Eva smoking it just ain't the same.
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Ever since I fell in love with the series in March 2006 I've marathoned it once a year every March whenever I can schedule a day or two off. I call it my EVAversary. It's a mighty geeky, mind-melding experience. There's always a new discovery I make each time I've rewatched it.
Lately I'd added a Day Two which is when I watch the Rebuild films. What there is.
Don't know how long I'll keep up the EVAversary though... Maybe until 2016, my ten year marker, then do it every other year or so.
Gotta admit, aside from my own work I never thought I'd ever rewatch anything more than 3 or 4 times in my life. Eva proved me wrong though. It's a great thign to marathon.
Lately I'd added a Day Two which is when I watch the Rebuild films. What there is.
Don't know how long I'll keep up the EVAversary though... Maybe until 2016, my ten year marker, then do it every other year or so.
Gotta admit, aside from my own work I never thought I'd ever rewatch anything more than 3 or 4 times in my life. Eva proved me wrong though. It's a great thign to marathon.
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Well, the first time I watched it I did exactly that... The only pause was a 2 or 3 week space when I got my hands on an EoE DVD, so you can't be that bad, considering that you had seen it before, I was a mind-virgin
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Re: So i recently did an evangelion marathon...
Shinji "Why can't I dream that I'm alone"
Rei "That is not a dream that is a substitute for reality"
Shinji "So where is my dream?"
Rei "it is a continuation of reality"
Shinji "But where is my reality"
Rei "It is at the end of your dream"
My interpretation:
The first line might be Shinji specifically complaining that he is not alone at present to enjoy his fantasy, as Rei, Misato, and Asuka are there with him.
The crux of this quote for me rests in the last 4 lines. I think Anno is talking about agency here. Dreams represent imagination, possibility, the Will for a future, things that Shinji has trouble grasping. In fact, he uses 'dreams' as a means of escape, to avoid a reality which he has no obvious control over. Rei says that his dreams are a continuation of reality. Dreams, literally, and in the figurative way I just mentioned, are born out of our experiences. We live, and imagine where life will bring us, or where we can bring ourselves. We go to sleep, and the real gives way to the remembered, and the imagined.
Where is reality? Rei says after the dream, ultimately implying that there is an exchange between the two, and that cause is not one way. After sleep, we wake up again, and our interpretation of the past, imagination, and aspirations inform our actions and how we will face the coming day. If Shinji is to turn his life around, he needs to understand the give and take between him and the world around. The meaning of these lines, I think, are also spread out across many dialogues in End of Evangelion, and perhaps also the series. (Misato's speech about how Shinji needs to wake up and realize that he does have options, and Kaworu and Rei's speech at the end about the power of Imagination to create one's own future, as a couple good examples). They build the moral of the story.
As for the extended live action sequence, I'm a fan. In my personal concurrent cut of EoE (which I've linked as a YT playlist in the Concurrency Project thread), the set of 3 alternate realities shown to Shinji (the world where Shinji doesn't exist, the world where nothing but Shinji exists, and the perfect world) play out kind of like a Christmas Carol to me, with Adam, Lilith, and the human hivemind being his 'angels', teaching him something different with a trip to each one.
Rei "That is not a dream that is a substitute for reality"
Shinji "So where is my dream?"
Rei "it is a continuation of reality"
Shinji "But where is my reality"
Rei "It is at the end of your dream"
My interpretation:
The first line might be Shinji specifically complaining that he is not alone at present to enjoy his fantasy, as Rei, Misato, and Asuka are there with him.
The crux of this quote for me rests in the last 4 lines. I think Anno is talking about agency here. Dreams represent imagination, possibility, the Will for a future, things that Shinji has trouble grasping. In fact, he uses 'dreams' as a means of escape, to avoid a reality which he has no obvious control over. Rei says that his dreams are a continuation of reality. Dreams, literally, and in the figurative way I just mentioned, are born out of our experiences. We live, and imagine where life will bring us, or where we can bring ourselves. We go to sleep, and the real gives way to the remembered, and the imagined.
Where is reality? Rei says after the dream, ultimately implying that there is an exchange between the two, and that cause is not one way. After sleep, we wake up again, and our interpretation of the past, imagination, and aspirations inform our actions and how we will face the coming day. If Shinji is to turn his life around, he needs to understand the give and take between him and the world around. The meaning of these lines, I think, are also spread out across many dialogues in End of Evangelion, and perhaps also the series. (Misato's speech about how Shinji needs to wake up and realize that he does have options, and Kaworu and Rei's speech at the end about the power of Imagination to create one's own future, as a couple good examples). They build the moral of the story.
As for the extended live action sequence, I'm a fan. In my personal concurrent cut of EoE (which I've linked as a YT playlist in the Concurrency Project thread), the set of 3 alternate realities shown to Shinji (the world where Shinji doesn't exist, the world where nothing but Shinji exists, and the perfect world) play out kind of like a Christmas Carol to me, with Adam, Lilith, and the human hivemind being his 'angels', teaching him something different with a trip to each one.
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Re: So i recently did an evangelion marathon...
Good thing you didn't go for the Rebuild movies right afterwards...
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Well, well... another case of the "I've just done an Eva Marathon mode and experiencing something like never before" situation.
That is exactly how I felt after seeing EoE... but did not experience a Marathon of Evangelion (how can I? The series is complex! Hard to digest in one sitting!)
Oh Good God, the thought of doing that right after that would be just...
... Makes sense to me.
...my mind has gone to mush i cant even comprehend it i think its actually made me kind of depressed like seriously, what is my life, what is reality hnnnngh, What is the actual fuck am i doing with my life...
That is exactly how I felt after seeing EoE... but did not experience a Marathon of Evangelion (how can I? The series is complex! Hard to digest in one sitting!)
Good thing you didn't go for the Rebuild movies right afterwards...
Oh Good God, the thought of doing that right after that would be just...
Shinji "Why can't I dream that I'm alone"SPOILER: ShowRei "That is not a dream that is a substitute for reality"
Shinji "So where is my dream?"
Rei "it is a continuation of reality"
Shinji "But where is my reality"
Rei "It is at the end of your dream"
... Makes sense to me.
Last edited by tomrule123 on Fri Jun 21, 2013 8:37 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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It's worse now with 3.0 I imagine. Prior to 3.0 it was actually a nice change of pace to go from the descent arc to 1.0 and 2.0. Didn't change the mushiness of your brain but it at least left you on a hopeful note.
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