Is rebuild a retcon?

Discussion of the new series of Evangelion movies ( "Evangelion Shin Gekijōban", meaning "Evangelion: New Theatrical Edition"). The final instalment made its debut in Japan on March 8, 2021.

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Postby Reichu » Sun Dec 31, 2006 11:15 pm

The manga occurs during the same time-frame as the original series, as well. It's a separate canon, as will be Rebuild, which was specifically described as a "new work".
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Postby conantheking » Wed Jan 31, 2007 9:30 am

Oh great, I just ordered the DVD boxset and now find out there is a new story coming out.
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Postby Res Novae » Wed Jan 31, 2007 12:17 pm

conantheking wrote:Oh great, I just ordered the DVD boxset and now find out there is a new story coming out.


Regardless of how Rebuild turns out, it won't make the original any less amazing. :D
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Postby conantheking » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:42 am

Res Novae wrote:
conantheking wrote:Oh great, I just ordered the DVD boxset and now find out there is a new story coming out.


Regardless of how Rebuild turns out, it won't make the original any less amazing. :D
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Postby Millions Livio » Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:24 pm

conantheking wrote:Oh great, I just ordered the DVD boxset and now find out there is a new story coming out.

Watching the original and becoming familiar with it will make Rebuild all the better.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Fri Feb 02, 2007 3:26 pm

Although I enjoyed Eva from the first episode, what really drew me into it was episode 4, Hedgehog's Dilemma. Here's hoping Rebuild has that same magic to it! :D
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Fri Feb 02, 2007 9:48 pm

I have to say I loved Eva from Episode 1 on but I couldn't see why it was such a "PHENOMENOM" until I saw Episode 16 where Shinji went into the Sea of Dirac.
That.....made.....me.....love....EVA.
Went out bought the Platinum and Movies without a second thought (and not having the rest mind you- I caught Episode 16 on TV and had seen most but not all of the episodes before hand).

Now here I am on a website talking about EVA, thinking EVA, not yet breathing EVA but it's possible.

Weh... I used to have a pretty good social life too....

Either way, college is so much work. I need the escape sometimes.

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Postby Reichu » Fri Feb 02, 2007 11:23 pm

Gendo'sPapa wrote:Now here I am on a website talking about EVA, thinking EVA, not yet breathing EVA but it's possible.

Don't forget to eat "Eva".
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Postby Houndour » Sat Feb 03, 2007 12:08 am

Gendo'sPapa wrote:Weh... I used to have a pretty good social life too....

I've managed to evade getting one of those at all. So far, so good. :P

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Postby ObsessiveMathsFreak » Mon Feb 05, 2007 6:56 pm

Things will be changed in Rebuild. Extensively. This is pretty much inevitable. The only question is how extensive these changes will be. Hopefully changes will restrict themselves to fleshing out the old story rather than completely revising entire sections, but I am skeptical.

We know for a start that Kaworu's role is going to be changed, probably massively. This alone will probably shift the entire direction of the series. An entirely new character is also being thrown into the mix. I seriously doubt that much of the old interplay and relationships between the characters can be fully preserved.

A part of me welcomes the oppertunity of some more explanations in Eva. But mostly I think that Rebuild was a project best left unstarted. The budget problems, burnout, revising, even the censorship was all a part of what Evangelion was. With this remake's high budget, and high expectations, I can't see that possibly the most important parts of the production will be felt onscreen.

As to canonicity, well, not that it was a burning issue to begin with, but I think that after Rebuild, there will essentially be two Eva Communities. Us with our quaint ways and assessments of an outdated TV show, and the new community who will have an exciting, but likely, less indepth series to debate. Our future my friends, is in a literal and metaphorical Eva Subforum. We need to finish the FGC. Right Now.
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Postby The Goose » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:27 am

A Question: Is the fourth new Evangelion film a new ending to the oirginal series or a ending to the new films.

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Postby Ornette » Tue Feb 27, 2007 7:29 am

The Goose wrote:A Question: Is the fourth new Evangelion film a new ending to the oirginal series or a ending to the new films.

I'd imagine the latter.

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Postby Fearthebait » Tue Feb 27, 2007 10:02 am

would seem pointless to make the first 3 movies if they werent gonna end them with the fourth
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Postby Lleonard Pler » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:11 pm

Besides, the 3rd and 4th movies are supposed to be screened together.

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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Tue Feb 27, 2007 6:13 pm

"Besides, the 3rd and 4th movies are supposed to be screened together."


So doesn't that mean this is a new Eva trilogy!

I mean End of Evangelion is broken down the middle with a credit sequence but no one calls that two seperate films.

Sneaky Anime makers. Giving us 3 for the price of 3 but saying its 4 just to be different.

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Postby Fearthebait » Wed Feb 28, 2007 1:14 am

they will find anyway to milk your money from you. Even literally.
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Postby Gendo'sPapa » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:01 am

"they will find anyway to milk your money from you. Even literally."


I do have nipples. Two of them even!

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Postby Tokpile Quohog » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:55 am

Gendo'sPapa wrote:"they will find anyway to milk your money from you. Even literally."


I do have nipples. Two of them even!


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Postby Reichu » Fri Mar 02, 2007 3:48 am

Gendo'sPapa wrote:I do have nipples. Two of them even!

And I have two breasteses.

Not one.

But two.

ObsessiveMathsFreak wrote:A part of me welcomes the oppertunity of some more explanations in Eva.

It's not as if any of the explanations in Weva will have direct applicability to Eva (TRUE).

But mostly I think that Rebuild was a project best left unstarted. The budget problems, burnout, revising, even the censorship was all a part of what Evangelion was. With this remake's high budget, and high expectations, I can't see that possibly the most important parts of the production will be felt onscreen.

WAS.

They say they're not making a "remake", BTW. It's a "re-take", more like.

As to canonicity, well, not that it was a burning issue to begin with, but I think that after Rebuild, there will essentially be two Eva Communities. Us with our quaint ways and assessments of an outdated TV show, and the new community who will have an exciting, but likely, less indepth series to debate. Our future my friends, is in a literal and metaphorical Eva Subforum. We need to finish the FGC. Right Now.

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In any event, your worries feel trivial to me. Other forms of geekdom have it considerably worse, in terms of "factionalism" among the fans (e.g.: TOS? TNG? DS9? etc.) and having to deal with different continuities/canonicities.
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Postby Omegagouki » Fri Mar 02, 2007 4:12 am

They can suck my nipples as much as they like, 'cause I like that sort of thing! Ohh, baby!

Translation: They can milk me as much as they need to. After all, as an Eva fan, it's my fate! I'm awaiting Rebild and whatever magic it and future projects may bring.
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