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The third installment debuted in Japan on November 17, 2012.

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Postby Koishiro » Mon Apr 29, 2013 12:12 pm

toji_: Wow, nice find.
As you pointed, the glyphs are the same as 10,1; just turned 90º to left and right. Aaaaaand they are sided with 13a/13A (Shinji/Kaworu). What does this mean? Well, we can presume that the original glyph could mean "being", "pilot", "trigger"; and the position of the glyph could represent the condition/state of it, like "lilin", "angel", "hybrid".
This conclusion brings me to Yokai's post up there:
Perhaps the remaining 40 are the main kana in hiragana or katakana?

Or... kanji?

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Postby K40s » Mon Apr 29, 2013 1:18 pm

maybe the rotation serves as capitalization? 10,1 being "a", while the same 10,1 rotated means "A"?
or change in script, like "a" rotated turns into "alpha"?

Didn't we have an "A" already from the DSS chocker? yes, at 4,5 there's "A" accordimg to the choker...
So maybe 10,1 stands for "lower case alpha" and the rotation for "capital alpha"

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Postby TheFriskyIan » Tue Apr 30, 2013 9:59 pm

GUYS! GUYS! HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS! GUYS! HOLY SHIT! YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS!
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EDIT: THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!
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Postby Clover » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:05 pm

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:GUYS! GUYS! HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS! GUYS! HOLY SHIT! YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS!
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No physical contamination detected my ass if they need an angel sealing eyepatch.

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Postby Monk Ed » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:27 pm

View Original PostClover wrote:No physical contamination detected my ass if they need an angel sealing eyepatch.

Maybe the contamination sealed by the eyepatch isn't physical.
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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Tue Apr 30, 2013 10:29 pm

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:GUYS! GUYS! HOLY SHIT YOU GUYS! GUYS! HOLY SHIT! YOU HAVE TO SEE THIS!
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That one is covered in the eye thread

View Original PostTheFriskyIan wrote:EDIT: THEY'RE EVERYWHERE!!!!!!!!
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Thanks for this one though, adding to the list.
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Postby one-eyed » Wed May 01, 2013 7:14 am

These glyphs are they equivalent to the alphabet of the angels (Enochian) by John Dee? Contention Glyphs are more characteristic of magic than science. Now that I think about the situation, in Q seems becoming increasingly mystical and has some sort of Gnostic tones. Will Anno decided to use a supernatural approach rather than Far Ancient Technology? They were never actually mentioned in the series, only in auxiliary material.

The scene of awakening Unit 13 reminds me a passage from a book of Gnostic inspiration, Demian:
"The bird struggles out of the egg. The egg is the world. Whoever wants to be born must destroy a world. The bird flies to God. That God's name is Abraxas."

If Anno is using a mystical approach, the desert walk, allegories messianic and obsession with sin make sense, but it's weird because he always said that the Judeo-Christian mysticism was to add flavor to the plot. Or he changed his mind or he's just playing with the fans like the old troll ever.

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Postby sephirotic » Wed May 01, 2013 3:53 pm

This is my first message in a while since during the inter-bd release i decided to get away from Eva sites and foruns to avoid spoilers and the agony of waiting for the BD.

What i bring here is a work i've done since i haven´t seen anyone else posting results up to now and also to help people avoiding wasting their time.

Apparently the Hex glyphs in the purple wall of the 2.22 preview doesn´t have a clear meaning.

Here is my findings:

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Problens are:
- Many hex glyphs are missing in the transcode that is given to us in the DSS chocker dyagram on the 3.33
- Even tough is possible there could be a code inside a code, it is unlikely due to the repeated patern on the wall.
I would like to try and translate the glyphs in the 3.33 now, specially the one in Asuka's eye, but even the Thora release of the 3.33 doesn´t have enough definition to allow me try it yet, i was at first more interested on those particular images for obvious reasons.[/img]
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Postby qu4d » Wed May 01, 2013 3:54 pm

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Postby TMBounty_Hunter » Wed May 01, 2013 4:38 pm

View Original Postsephirotic wrote:I would like to try and translate the glyphs in the 3.33 now, specially the one in Asuka's eye, but even the Thora release of the 3.33 doesn´t have enough definition to allow me try it yet

That's what you get for downloading an encode instead of buying the BD :devil:

I doubt there's actual meaningful text anywhere in these Annorunes, but if you're bored here's the frames directly from the BD in PNG, 10 total and the glyphs change every frame:

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Upscaling and fiddling with contrast/brightness makes them very legible.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed May 01, 2013 5:13 pm

As soon as school gets out, I'm going to start doing this the hard way. Manual analysis, here I come.

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Postby thegoodson » Wed May 01, 2013 5:14 pm

I didn't see this posted here yet, but some reddit folk converted the glyphs on Shinji's collar into piano notes, and it plays his zonked out walk song

Here's the discussion
http://www.reddit.com/r/evangelion/comments/1dg56w/he_duped_us_from_the_very_start_that_clever/c9q7483


Here's what it sounds like
https://soundcloud.com/jakebutter/i-want-to-get-off-mr-annos

Here's what he used
http://i.imgur.com/Lfcv6WR.jpg

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Postby ElMariachi » Wed May 01, 2013 5:31 pm

View Original Postthegoodson wrote:I didn't see this posted here yet, but some reddit folk converted the glyphs on Shinji's collar into piano notes, and it plays his zonked out walk song

Here's the discussion
http://www.reddit.com/r/evangelion/comments/1dg56w/he_duped_us_from_the_very_start_that_clever/c9q7483


Here's what it sounds like
https://soundcloud.com/jakebutter/i-want-to-get-off-mr-annos

Here's what he used
http://i.imgur.com/Lfcv6WR.jpg


[–]aloysius_flyte
perhaps the 88 glyphs correspond to the 88 keys of a piano.


[–]aloysius_flyte
!! excellent work. i believe this is the melody from when Shinji goes nuts after talking to fuyutsuki and knocking over the books for Rei.


[–]noodleboy200
Hot damn you're right. In the choker sequence the runs are all ascending while the melody while Shinji goes crazy goes up and down. However you can match the melody without adding any extra notes.

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Good god, you're right.

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:bigeyes: :jawdrop:

Okay, now this is becoming seriously fucking creepy!
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Postby thegoodson » Wed May 01, 2013 5:37 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote::bigeyes: :jawdrop:

Okay, now this is becoming seriously fucking creepy!


I KNOW ITS FUCKING CRAZY AHHHHHH

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Postby Monk Ed » Wed May 01, 2013 5:39 pm

View Original PostElMariachi wrote::bigeyes: :jawdrop:

My reaction exactly.
Okay, now this is becoming seriously fucking creepy!

It's like he knows we'd look that hard!
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Postby notalive » Wed May 01, 2013 5:42 pm

When you speed it up it sounds EXACTLY like the beginning of that melody :cringe:
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Postby Jadley » Wed May 01, 2013 5:42 pm

What the f*ck is going on, what is the meaning of all this, WHY YOU DO THIS TO US ANNO??? :headdesk: .
There's a hidden message =_=.
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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed May 01, 2013 5:45 pm

Piano keys. How did I fucking miss that? :facepalm:

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Postby lastcody » Wed May 01, 2013 5:51 pm

I just jizzed everywhere, my mind is blown. My god Anno has made us his bitches again.

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Postby Nuclear Lunchbox » Wed May 01, 2013 5:52 pm

View Original Postlastcody wrote:I just jizzed everywhere, my mind is blown. My god Anno has made us his bitches again.

You seem to be implying that we were ever not. ;)


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