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dhazard Embryo
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:16 am Post subject: |
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14 years since the event... I don't know, but i suppose final will have flashbacks as the last part of the original series did... _________________ Okaeri, Ikari Shinji-kun, mateita |
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Hyper Shinchan God


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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:18 am Post subject: |
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Thanks a lot for answering my questions, spiderman is cool (just spiderman is fine?).
I guess that the game Shinji was playing should be Shogi, Xard translated a summary which mentioned what looks like that scene.
spiderman is cool wrote: | | And yes it does play Ode to Joy (or at least something very close to it, lots going on during that part) so it was pretty reminiscent of the scene in the TV show in that respect. |
Cool, I hope that it's really the Ode to Joy, it's one of the few things I wanted to be carried over from the old series.
spiderman is cool wrote: | | As far as Rei goes, I'm definitely confused on this one. Once I get to see a translation I'm sure I'll have a better idea on what was going on with Rei. She was wearing a black plug suit in most of the movie |
Apparently she's a soulless clone, even Lili said that it was mentioned by Kaworu (I didn't believe it until she confirmed it). That plugsuit is really sexy imo, I wonder how I'll react when I'll see her in the movie though...
StratoSakuya...AF wrote: | | Exactly my thoughts. Count me in your anti-Misato ranks! |
I say, let's form a 3rd faction against both Misato and Gendo! Someone suggest me a cool name like AEUG, please. _________________ So let’s make a wish.
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spiderman is cool Embryo

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LiLi Lilin


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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:25 am Post subject: |
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Hyper Shinchan wrote: | | Apparently she's a soulless clone, even Lili said that it was mentioned by Kaworu (I didn't believe it until she confirmed it). |
Umm, I am not sure WHY he says "the place of the soul is different" with Rei. He does say something before that, IIRC, but it went over my head... I will try to pay more attention next time.
It seems fairly certain however that this Rei (at least, this body?) is not the same Rei that Shinji tried to save. At least, Shinji at first believes she is the real deal and tries to reconnect with her, leaving books outside her dwelling and so on, but eventually he realizes she must be one of the "Ayanami Series" mentioned by Fuyutsuki and seems to start resenting her. Other characters also treat her like some sort of spare... I think Mari at some point while talking to her refers to, "Your original..." and Rei is like, "My original? The other me?"
Oh, IIRC, at some point she is soaking in her tank and she seems to have a vision of SchoolGirl!Rei.
Personally, at first she kinda annoyed me, but then I really started to feel for her... poor kid...  _________________ "People need more stfu in their diets." (NemZ)
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Darkwing Leliel


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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:31 am Post subject: |
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So we got another Question. Where the hell is Rei's soul? _________________ Are you aware of the Tethercat Principle, AKA Offscreen Inertia? It makes things soooo much worse. |
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IDontWantNoScrub Lilith

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:36 am Post subject: |
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Have they eased up on technobabble during Eva/Angel fights (running commentary by Ritsuko)?
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Hyper Shinchan God


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UrsusArctos A kuma


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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:42 am Post subject: |
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Welcome back, Lili!
LiLi wrote: | Other characters also treat her like some sort of spare... I think Mari at some point while talking to her refers to, "Your original..." and Rei is like, "My original? The other me?"
Oh, IIRC, at some point she is soaking in her tank and she seems to have a vision of SchoolGirl!Rei.
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Schoolgirl Rei was the bookend Rei in EoE and the original series, after all. Maybe Anno didn't decide to chuck this part of the old continuity. The real question is whether Rei == Lilith this time around, and I don't know whether that's been explained in any sense. _________________ Back in action for now.
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Chuckman Zeruel


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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:55 am Post subject: |
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More than likely she's just dead. It sounds like Anno has trolled the Rei shippers and the Misato shippers. Something horrible will happen to Asuka in the next movie.
I'm prepared. But they held hands and you can't take that away from me even if he was in a semi comatose daze and not really into it squeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Also those new plugsuits are adorable! All the toys! The toys! I feel like a kid again, except I'm comfortable with my toys having boobs now.
Oh, wait, I erm, yes. Symbolically, this means that Shinji is... oh fuck it. _________________ ASUKA ♥ MARI 4 EVER
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CJD Evangelion


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Gezora Embryo
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 10:59 am Post subject: |
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spiderman is cool wrote: |
As far as Rei goes, I'm definitely confused on this one. Once I get to see a translation I'm sure I'll have a better idea on what was going on with Rei. She was wearing a black plug suit in most of the movie. What's wierd is in the book that I have (everyone keeps posting pictures of it on here) Rei Ayanami is listed as "tentative name: Rei Ayanami" not sure what that's about. Also, there is a scene with Shinji playing Shogi with Fuyutsuki and you can see Yui, as well as about a million Rei body parts similair to the scene in the TV show. So I'm not exactly sure who the Rei is in this movie, but I'm going to assume it's the one that Shinji rescued at the end of 2.0.
Sorry if that's not really clear, I am learning Japanese right now and much of this movie went over my head. But I did thoroughly enjoy it. It's something fresh and different. |
My Japanese isn't that great either, but Shinji and Rei's interactions lead me to believe that it is not in fact the same Ayanami he rescued at the end of 2.0.
I suppose it could somehow be a case of amnesia, but at least in the earlier version, when Ayanami didn't remember something it was because she was a newly cloned iteration.
What I'm referring to is the whole thing with the books. Shinji says something like, "Oh, this your room now? But you were always reading books. Where are your books?" And she's like, " Ayanami was always reading books?"
There's also another exchange of dialogue where she doesn't understand the concept of liking something. |
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Ornette Administrator


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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:05 am Post subject: |
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Haven't gone through this thread yet, but it looks like most of this stuff everyone already knows.
Firstly, like NONE of the stuff from the preview at the end of 2.0 is in this movie. Secondly, there's some bizarre stuff, like the floating battle ship and all the red stuff shaped like Evangelions and everything seems like an Angel (not literally but there's pattern blues everywhere it seems), but mostly this magical floating battleship that seems to have come out of nowhere.
We start off with the space battle, but it's not so much a battle as it is Asuka recovering this black cross with a Nerv logo on it, I assume that Shinji's inside this thing. At some point there's an angel and a fight ensues. Mari and Asuka are both fighting, Mari in the pink one, and at some point, because she has no thrusters, her Eva falls back to earth. She's got a gun that looks like a 50cal.
Upon returning, Shinji wakes up and realizes he's the most hated person on Earth. Everyone hates him, except maybe Toji's sister (who is the brown haired girl from the new trailers). Misato hates him, Ritsuko's got short hair, the other new characters are the new bridge crew, the bridge of this wacko floating battleship, and they all work for (IIRC) Wille? Not Nerv. Shinji's an idiot and doesn't understand why everyone hates him. He's relieved to see Asuka again but she hates him too. They're all out at sea, and it looks like there might have been another angel attack. Eventually, Rei shows up in Eva-00 (or was it 09?), busts Shinji out of jail (he's wearing some sort of collar that can explode), Misato wants to use the collar but can't.
They all go back to Nerv, which is all kinds of fucked up. There they find Kaworu who plays the piano a lot. Gendo is now sporting a visor kind of like Keel. Shinji realizes that Rei isn't the same as before, he's also really mopey and befriends Kaworu, who somehow teaches Shinji how to play the piano instantly. Kaworu also fixes Shinji's SDAT, also, he takes the collar off and puts it on himself. Shinji eventually hangs out with Fuyu who tells Shinji all about what happened to Yui (she's got wings during the contact experiment) and what happened when he tried to save Rei, pretty much why everyone hates him. So there's also Eva-13, which kind of looks like Eva-01, it's in some sort of containment because it seems Misato's people can detect activated Evas.
When Eva-13 is activated, Kaworu and Shinji both pilot it from separate entry plugs, but they can see each other, as if they're sitting next to each other. This instantly sounds the Misato alarm and they send Asuka and Mari to deal with it. They descend through central dogma (some weird CGI during this part, not sure what was going on with all the blocks and the floor) until they eventually reach Lilith, who looks in bad shape. There's what looks like Eva-sized skulls everywhere. There are also 2 spears (one is Longinus and the other is, forgot the name, was mentioned in this subforum), one is stuck through Mark-VI and the other looks like it's just sticking in Lilith. Shinji is told that if they get the spears they'll be able to undo all the crap that Shinji did via 3rd Impact. Kaworu's suddenly not so sure, I think he says the spears are in the wrong place or that someone's messed with them, he's sitting around wondering what was up while Shinji fights Asuka, Rei is down there also with her Eva and is in the battle. Asuka runs out of power, so Shinji gets the two Spears, and what do you know, 4th Impact starts. But Misato and the floating battle ship shows up and tries to stop it, the battleship's guns can pierce AT-Fields. Rei's Eva turns out to be Seele controlled and starts attacking the battleship, hacking into its systems, it seems it's also an Angel. Asuka activates some sort of "beast mode" and takes it out, Rei's entry plug is ejected. At some point, the collar explodes and Kaworu is turned into hamburger meat, Shinji's pretty upset about it and at this point, he's just a dead heap. His entry plug is ejected, Asuka has to self destruct so she ejects. The battleship is saved and 4th Impact is averted, though it looks like Earth is pretty bad off. The movie ends with Asuka pulling Shinji out of his plug, he's completely unresponsive, and they and Rei walk off.
Probably missed a lot of the details, but I'm sure all the other synopsis from the thread can fill those in. Not sure how I feel about this one, I definitely enjoyed it but there's a lot of questions/loose ends. I'll have to wait for a full translation of the dialogue before putting together any critical thoughts. Some of the stuff that kind of bugged me was the battleship, which seemed to have come out of nowhere, and Shinji being pretty much an idiot throughout the entire movie.
The next time preview has an Eva that looks like the pink Eva and Eva-02 stiched together fighting a bunch of other Evas that all look alike, probably an Eva series? They don't look like harpiess though. _________________ ♨ crappy Grand Solo, Opus 14 Recorded on laptop 4/14 - Me in 2004
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Xard Sex God Bastard


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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:09 am Post subject: |
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Did some edits to first post to clear some false alerts in those early 2ch posts on early pages. Too bad they managed to give symbv a serious scare because I slept too long and didn't get to it sooner (then again I went to sleep at like 8 in the morning so I had the right to sleep long :P)
On the other hand the joy of knowing Asuka didn't die after all was kinda worthwhile experience on its own
Ornette wrote: | | he takes the collar off and puts it on himself |
I'm starting to hate the 2ch spoiler guy with his retarded grammar even more now. _________________ ran1: Oh gosh this sentence gave me an internet boner. You're so tsundere.
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spiderman is cool Embryo

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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:15 am Post subject: |
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Gezora Embryo
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Hyper Shinchan God


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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:21 am Post subject: |
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CJD wrote: | | Damnit Shinchan, why must your boy be such a tease? |
Because it would be boring otherwise.
CJD wrote: | | That second Asuka shot. |
Effectively now that you made me notice it some of those Asuka shots were cut in the previous pic, I didn't mention her because I thought that we already saw her pics.
Ornette wrote: | | Upon returning, Shinji wakes up and realizes he's the most hated person on Earth |
Oh boy, so it's THAT bad.
Ornette wrote: | | Misato hates him |
Obviously...
| Quote: | | He's relieved to see Asuka again but she hates him too. |
Oh crap, it didn't look like that from the preview...
Ornette wrote: | | (she's got wings during the contact experiment) |
Real wings? Aren't those of that Diving Suit or whatever she used in the series?
Ornette wrote: | | There are also 2 spears (one is Longinus and the other is, forgot the name, was mentioned in this subforum), one is stuck through Mark-VI and the other looks like it's just sticking in Lilith. |
Interesting so this is what happened to Mark. 06, it's kind of a grim ending for an Eva that received such a grandiose introduction.
Thanks a lot for this summary, Ornette. My only real question is about those wings for now. _________________ So let’s make a wish.
“Please let me redo again.”
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Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 11:23 am Post subject: |
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When they say "imprisoned in a tesseract" they mean that metal cross-shaped thing. A fourth dimensional hypercube rendered in three dimensions would have that shape.
It may be a reference to Heinlein's And He Built a Crooked House where a scientist builds a structure in that same shape and it collapses into a true hypercube, full of doors that lead to different dimensions. _________________ ASUKA ♥ MARI 4 EVER
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