[MANGA] [NGE] New Manga Stage Thread

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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:20 pm

View Original Postsymbv wrote:One character is hidden from the pic which will be used for the cover in the "standard version" of Volume 13. It will only be revealed in Young Ace Nov issue (to be released Oct 04).

It looks like Kadokawa is naive enough to believe that Japanese haven't already seen Viz's cover even though it's also been added to amazon.co.jp.
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Postby KnightmareX13 » Thu Sep 27, 2012 11:53 pm

View Original PostHyper Shinchan wrote:It looks like Kadokawa is naive enough to believe that Japanese haven't already seen Viz's cover even though it's also been added to amazon.co.jp.

wouldn't take much imagination even if they didn't
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Fri Sep 28, 2012 12:04 am

^
Well, yeah, that's also true.
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Postby JoeD80 » Fri Sep 28, 2012 1:40 am

Perhaps it's an elaborate prank and it's really Pen-Pen in the pilot seat

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Postby the_seventh_child » Sun Sep 30, 2012 6:47 pm

View Original PostJoeD80 wrote:Perhaps it's an elaborate prank and it's really Pen-Pen in the pilot seat

Now that would be awesome.

So wait, you are telling me that the manga is officially ending? Woah, and here I thought I would never see that day. I suppose all things come to an end, even Sadamoto's NGE-dragging-for-many-years-manga. Oh well.

I am not even sure for what kind of ending I am hoping for.
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Postby SEELE-01 » Sun Sep 30, 2012 10:18 pm

View Original Postthe_seventh_child wrote:I am not even sure for what kind of ending I am hoping for.


Me neither... Just want the damn thing to be over once and for all...
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Postby R334 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:31 am

Eh...

Stage.92:
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Tangification continues, this time targeting the NERV and SEELE bigshots.

Kiel dissolves into both LCL and cybernetic components - no surprises, not even a closeup of the said tech parts clattering on the floor...
...
But the pic right before that IMHO is kinda hilarious, since he is shown with a beam of light shining down upon him.
WITH SPARKLES.
Yes, sparkles.
XD

Fuyutsuki: Rei floats down to him, morphs into Yui. Flashback to his years at Hakone where he shares one last conversation with her, shares his pain and to the tang world we go.

Gendo: chats with Yui (her hair is longer than I remembered, btw) and before he dies (prepare for it, people - another deviation), he remembers when Shinji was still in his crib and he tentatively offered his own finger to be grabbed by his son.
Gendo dies...and
SURPRISE!
He doesn't dissolve - his body remains solid.

End of chapter.


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Postby gwern » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:54 am

View Original PostR334 wrote:Eh...

Stage.92:
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Gendo: chats with Yui (her hair is longer than I remembered, btw) and before he dies (prepare for it, people - another deviation), he remembers when Shinji was still in his crib and he tentatively offered his own finger to be grabbed by his son.
Gendo dies...and
SURPRISE!
He doesn't dissolve - his body remains solid.

End of chapter.



Rejectowned? I suppose that's more evidence for the Bad End interpretation of Eva-01 eating him in EoE...

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Postby R334 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 11:24 am

OTOH, on the last frame...
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You clearly see that although Gendo has not LCL'ified, Akagi's body certainly did.

And the old manipulator died with a hint of a smile on his face, after shedding a single tear while looking at Yui.

Sadamoto certainly gives Gendo more human substance/compassion than Anno did.

EDIT: some pics:

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Postby Fireball » Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:36 pm

Mmm, so Rits killed him in the end. I kind of like it.
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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Oct 02, 2012 12:45 pm

View Original PostR334 wrote:Sadamoto certainly gives Gendo more human substance/compassion than Anno did.


Your mileage may vary, but not everybody thinks anime Gendo was a complete dick. It's subtle but it's there. I find anime Gendo to be more compassionate than manga Gendo but that's just me. *Shrug*

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Postby R334 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 1:06 pm

I'm not handing down a judgment on whether he was a complete bastard or not, but Sadamoto certainly gave his part of the NGE audience more to reflect on and sympathize with the character. Whereas Anno's version of Anno was someone distant and inflexible (even unto the very end, before the Eva munch), Sadamoto opted for someone tortured by despair, truly afraid to open himself to others (as evidenced by that last memory of his - his hesitation is only too evident in his posture over the crib) and absolutely desperate to be reunited with Yui (Sadamoto's version was quite more visceral IMHO, as shown in Shinji's final meeting with his father and the conversation that ensued).

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Postby 1731298478 » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:36 pm

Here's my attempt at a stage translation. Thanks very, very much to Renegade334 for uploading it!! Also, thanks to Hyper Shinchan for reuploading it, since I instinctively checked TB when I saw a new stage had arrived ^^...

A very emotional stage. One note is that the final kanji 'soul' (魂) is given the reading kokoro in katakana at the end rather than tamashii. Perhaps this final line should be translated another way, or has another implication? Any suggestions regarding this, and regarding other possible errors in the translation, would be highly appreciated.

For Keel's lines from EoE I made use of Bochan_bird's translation. Though, this time there is an additional line.

Edit: A mistake in the original translation - Yui's line "I didn't want to disappear" should have been "I didn't want him to disappear" (i.e., Shinji).
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STAGE.92 バースデイ
Stage 92: Birthday

彼らが出逢った、あの頃……。
At the time when they met...

ダレモクルシマナイヨウニ ダレモカナシマナイヨウニ
Shinji (strange voice): So that no one suffers, so that no one is sad -

心の奥底で…。
Within the depths of his heart...

ボクガスベテヲオワレセヨウ
Shinji (strange voice): I will bring an end to everything.

アイスルコトモアイサレルコトモ アタエラレルコトモウシナウコトモ モウナニモカンガエナクテスムヨウ
Shinji (strange voice): So I won't have to think about loving and being loved, being given and losing, anymore.

スベテガオワッテダレモイナイセカイニナレバイイ
Shinji (strange voice): I want everything to end, a world with no one in it.

それがあなたの願いなの?
Rei: Is that your wish?

そう それが 僕の望みだ
Shinji (normal voice): Yes. That is my wish.

始まりと終わりは同じところにある
Keel: The beginning and the end are as one.

―よい― これでよいのだ すべては
Keel: Good. As it should be. Everything is -

神の御心のままに…
Keel: - as God has willed it...

ユイ君…
Fuyutsuki: Yui-kun...

―冬月先生―
Yui: Professor Fuyutsuki -

私が戻らなかったら― 主人のことをお願いしますね
Yui: If I don`t return, please look after my husband.

いいのかね 碇に何も言わなくて
Fuyutsuki: Is it right, doing this without telling Ikari anything?

だって 言ったら絶対に止めれますもの 二度とエヴァに乗せてもらえなくなります
Yui: But if I tell him, I will certainly be stopped. He won't allow me to pilot Eva again.

未来のためです 冬月先生
Yui: It's for the sake of the future, Professor Fuyutsuki.

人類の未来のため シンジと未来の子供たちのために 私は行くんですよ
Yui: I will go - for the sake of the future of humanity, for the sake of Shinji and the children of the future.

君が自ら望んでエヴァに残ったことを 私は碇に言えずにいた……
Fuyutsuki: I never told Ikari that you stayed inside Eva of your own free will...

いや 言わなかったのだ 態と
Fuyutsuki: No. I did not tell him deliberately.

奴が苦しんでいる姿を密かに あざ笑っていたのだ
Fuyutsuki: I secretly gloated at the sight of his suffering.

すまなかった 碇
Fuyutsuki: I'm sorry, Ikari.

おまえもユイ君に会えたのか?
Fuyutsuki: Did you get to meet Yui-kun, too?

ユイ…
Gendo: Yui...

ようやく会えた…な……
Gendo: I was finally able to see you again...

この時を… ただひたすら 待ち続けていた…
Gendo: All I have been doing is waiting for this moment...

…… バカね
Yui: ... you fool.

私はずっと あなたの側にいたのに
Yui: I was by your side the whole time.

死ぬ…のか 私は
Gendo: I'm going to die... aren't I?

そうね… 私たちは生命の理に 背いたものね…
Yui: Yes... we have gone against the logos of existence.

ずっとおまえに会う… ことだけを考えていた… その報いが これか……
Gendo: All along I thought of nothing but seeing you again... and this is my reward.

でも あなたが死んでも それで終わりじゃないわ
Yui: However, even if you die, that won't be the end of it.

あなたと私の子供が 私たちの分まで未来を紡いでくれる
Yui: Our child will weave our future, including your part and mine.

シンジが… か……
Gendo: Shinji will... will he...?

未来など あいつは望んでいないだろう……
Gendo: It may be he has no desire for a future...

私は あの子に苦しみしか与えられなかった…
Gendo: I couldn't give him anything except suffering...

いいえ
Yui: No.

あの子が 人類の未来を救うのよ
Yui: That child will save the future of humanity.

破滅へ向かうしかなかった人類を あなたと私の子供が 希望へと導いてくれる
Yui: Our child will lead humanity - a humanity that could only be headed towards destruction - to hope.

あなたと私は あの子をこの世に送り出すために出会ったのよ
Yui: You and I met in order to bring that child into the world.

あの子は私たちが出会って愛し合ったからこそ生まれた子供…
Yui: The child that was born precisely because you and I met, and because we loved one another...

私は あなたとの愛の証をずっと守りたかった
Yui: I wanted always to protect that testimony to our love.

人類の運命と共に消えて欲しくなかった
Yui: I didn't want him to disappear along with the fate of mankind.

だから私は エヴァに残ったの
Yui: So, I remained within Eva.

あの子は生きていくわ これからもずっと だって
Yui: That child will live far on into the future. Because -

あなたと私の子供の子供だもの
Yui: he is our child.

思い出して 
Yui: Remember -

初めて あの子に 触れた時の気持ち
Yui: how you felt when you touched him for the first time.

思い出して
Yui: Remember -

あの子から感じたぬくもり
Yui: the warmth you felt coming from him -

あの子から感じた愛おしさと
Yui: the affection you felt for him, and -

生命の力の強さを
Yui: the strength of the power of life.

そして願って
Yui: And you wished -

”生きろ”と
Yui: that he would live.

救済された魂-。
A soul given salvation.
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Postby gwern » Tue Oct 02, 2012 9:48 pm

Huh, looking closer on pg 223 - I suddenly see a Rei, to Gendo's left side away from his folded-over arm. Ritsuko tanging? But on the next page, we see clearly that Ritsuko's former corpse was on the opposite side, Gendo's right side! Drawing error, or was Rei-Lilith just watching Yui & Gendo?

(I'm not sure about the kokoro question. If it referred to Gendo, I'd go with 'heart' since the love of his life finally reappeared and explained things to him.)

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Tue Oct 02, 2012 10:18 pm

Does the last page scan say no new Stage until the January issue or am I misreading that?

Anyway, I noticed Rei too. Watching Gendo and Yui, I suppose.

Beautiful and bittersweet Stage.
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Postby JoeD80 » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:27 am

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:Does the last page scan say no new Stage until the January issue

Yep it says to be continued in the January issue, and the smaller note says that there will be no appearance in the next issue.

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Postby Sailor Star Dust » Wed Oct 03, 2012 11:42 am

Ah ok, thanks.

To tide folks over, here's Volume 13 for preorder on Amazon:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/1421552914

If I already posted that, don't mind me.

EDIT: Oh yeah, and the Stage numbering is still off. This should actually be numbered Stage 93, not Stage 92, shouldn't it? Hope it'll get fixed for the tankoubon.
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Postby Hyper Shinchan » Wed Oct 03, 2012 6:00 pm

View Original PostSailor Star Dust wrote:EDIT: Oh yeah, and the Stage numbering is still off. This should actually be numbered Stage 93, not Stage 92, shouldn't it? Hope it'll get fixed for the tankoubon.

It's the other way around SSD, I'm almost completely sure that they changed the chapter numbering in volume 13, hence the discrepancy in the new Young Ace chapters.

Anyway it was a quite interesting chapter for a change, I really hope that Sadamoto will find a way to make Instrumentality interesting as well. Also thanks a lot for the fast translation, Numbers-kun!
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