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PostPosted: Sat Jun 16, 2012 4:14 pm    Post subject:
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so let's see how long it takes for it to come out that the production of Prometheus was more or less a repeat of what happened with Alien 3.

It's almost the same fucking thing all over again with the reactions and such.

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Sweet God, that leaked script keeps getting worse.

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Shaw's only defining character trait here is that she's Christian. She's so Christian, in fact, that she's the one who takes off her helmet in the ruins, based solely on faith. Her relationship with Holloway in the film fleshed her out a bit more, but in this version they're not even dating. Holloway's character isn't revealed through his arrogant streak, or the fact that despite being kind of a dick, he still genuinely loves Shaw, no; his defining character moment is that he rapes Shaw. The fuck? Oh, and she's a virgin, so Charlie's dick is covered in blood. Oh, and she was going through an existential crisis because the discovery of extraterrestrial life disproved her religious beliefs and he can't even remember that she's religious despite the fact that's the only vestige of a personality she has, that two minor characters were talking about it earlier and that he's obsessed enough to fucking rape her.

Not only does she have no reaction to the rape after crying naked in the shower, she gets raped again by the Space Jockey! They walk off to another derelict and Holloway gets splashed with green fluid that makes him age rapidly, guaranteeing that even if this script was used, we'd have to look at atrocious age-make-up. It's not even played off like he's being punished for the rape either, Shaw harbors no resentment towards him and in fact apologizes. But we're getting ahead of ourselves: First she's strapped down to a table with wire-like tongue snakes and though the penetrating organs in question are all bio-mechanical and non-human, the writer blatantly points out that it's basically a metal penis shooting into her, because he missed out on Subtext 101. One pointless rape is bad taste, twice in the span of fifteen minutes just makes it look like the writer is enjoying himself too much.

Parts of it are pretty cool. There's an alien with a fist-face, which I assume is an earlier version of the giant face-hugging squid seen at the end of the final film because it's like nine feet tall and described as being hairy and having long arachnid-like legs with human fingernails and a shamelessly overt vagina-dentata for a mouth. Also of note is that Vickers was an unabashedly evil android who went around and torched everyone with a flame thrower and she eventually gets pushed off a cliff by Shaw, who holds her alien rape baby in her arms and delivers a Bible quote about being fruitful and having dominion over the Earth. It's an utterly bizarre ending that's kind of cool in itself, but it's ruined by the camera zooming off to another planet and into the original derelict, where the screen is then attacked by one of the classic Xenomorphs. That's stupid. The Biblical elements are played up despite there being almost none of the hefty "We're looking for God" stuff like in the final film. I like the undercurrent of grim irony, but everything around it's really souring.

In fact, everything in the script is far more boring and pointless than anything that made it into the final film. For all its flaws, at least most of the time the interplay between the characters in the movie was interesting. Vickers and David both occupied moral grey areas in the final film, but here, they're basically Ash and Bishop 2.0. David even shamelessly quotes the "I prefer the term 'artificial person'" line. Charlie Holloway is a non-characterized rapist with no intrigue or pathos in regards to his relationship with anybody, and Shaw seems to do nothing other than get raped and quote the Good Book.

Oh, and there's no old Weyland either. Instead of the whole plot being about one man's hubris and his search for immortality, they just want to bring back the alien and use it as a bio weapon. Again.



Actually aside from the parts about the characters being not as good, how you described it sounds kind of awesome.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:15 am    Post subject:
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Saw it today. I agree pretty much completely with everything David says in this link (courtesy of Mr. Tines on p. 13). For those who don't care to read through all the comments:

Spoiler:

Look, I don't care much about bad science these days. It bugged me a lot when I was younger, but I've since learned to unclench. So whatever. I don't care about continuity, either; if this invalidates the Alien films (or AvP) I really couldn't care less. I have nothing invested on that front, right? Right. But I do care about overuse of pathetically tired tropes, inconsistent plots, and vapid, boring characters about whom I could not be bothered to give a shit, and Prometheus is full of all of these.

-- Why do we need another progenitor scenario? It's boring. It's been done, and even when it's done well it's trite and stupid.

-- Why do we need to have our female lead deal with one of the three female fates assigned to women in film? Ripley managed to avoid them in Alien and Aliens (the less said about the others the better) and Scott knows better, so why?

-- Why is the fucking android the only character in the flick who's even a tiny bit interesting?

-- Why are we dealing with black goo again? Didn't we get enough of that in District 9? It was dumb there and it's even dumber here. And speaking of that, this is a really shitty WMD guys. Don't these engineers have bombs and shit? Fuck it, never mind, I don't care. I just wish the stupid black goo did something specific instead of being an all purpose plot device in goo form.

-- So Tweedledee and Tweedledum freak out when they hear about life signs in their vicinity, but when they actually encounter life forms they treat them like fucking hamsters. What the hell? Okay okay, they don't know they're in a horror flick, but simple prudence should have you going HEY GUYS MAYBE TOUCHING THE ALIEN LIFE FORM ISN'T SUCH A HOT IDEA M'KAY?

-- Science vs. atheism again? Didn't we do this in Contact already? I didn't like it there either but at least that flick made a decent stab at it. But seriously, lots of scientists are PERFECTLY OKAY with having religious beliefs, so I wish people would get over it already.

-- So the engineers created us, right? And then they gave us a map to their . . . super secret weapons facility? Uh, okay, cool story bro. But then they decide to build shitty biological weapons to wipe us out? The fuck? Make up your minds, guys! And seriously, your site security really sucks ass. Now we know you've botched the job on not one but two worlds, so maybe it's time you look into another profession or something. Just sayin'.

-- Don't filmmakers ever actually use computers? I mean, fuck, the whole holographic display bullshit for your starmap or whatever is just dumb as hell. It's dumb because it's not helpful or particularly interactive; it's just a big spectacle that nobody would ever use. I actually liked the holo display on the Prometheus command deck, since they gave a 3D rendering of the ship they were investigating. That was cool. But the starmap thingie? Fuck that.

-- If you're gonna stick Charlize Theron in your flick, make her relevant! The chick's A-list talent and she's got some acting chops so giving her a pointless role like this is just a waste.

Fuck it, I'm rambling by this point, but hopefully you get the idea. There's a fuck of a lot of derp in this movie, and that's even when you take it on its own terms. I shoulda blown it off and done my Book of Bantorra review instead.


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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 12:46 am    Post subject:
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so let's see how long it takes for it to come out that the production of Prometheus was more or less a repeat of what happened with Alien 3.

It's almost the same fucking thing all over again with the reactions and such.


That's not the case here. PROMETHEUS for better or worse IS the movie Ridley Scott wanted to make & he pretty much was given free reign to do whatever he wanted. The only restriction I could imagine Fox gave him was not to make the film run excessively over 2 hours. It's not like this film is called ALIEN ORIGINS: PROMETHEUS. The film is entirely Scott's film. And I still love it.

ALIEN 3 meanwhile was a clusterfuck production that treated it's young at the time wunderkind director with no respect & cut the film for theaters behind his back. Every decision he wanted to make as a filmmaker was second guessed by a squadron of producers on set who undermined his very role as director. It's the case of an unsatisfied director for hire.

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I have to admit I actually enjoyed this film, in the same time as I was quite close to facepalm many times in theater. Of course, I wasn't expecting too much. I'll have to admit that without David this would have been a very very very big disappointment.

Also, I saw it in 2D because I still find the 3D thing mostly distracting. But all your comments are starting to make me think that I might enjoy seeing the movie again in 3D also.

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...and actually I was starting to expect to not see a Xenomorph at all. So having one in the end (even if it was only briefly, and a "Engineer type") was a surprise. And pretty neutral one at that. What's even more surprising to me is that it seemed fully grown while breaking out. On the other hand, I don't really care either way honestly.


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Was Prometheus really that bad? So far, the reviews have been very polarizing: from praise like if it was the new best film of all time, to bashing de lo más grosero.


It totally was. First half was generic but watchable. Second half seemed to have been directed by a malfunctioning android using google translator for the dialog.

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View Original Post Bagheera wrote:
Saw it today. I agree pretty much completely with everything David says in this link (courtesy of Mr. Tines on p. 13). For those who don't care to read through all the comments:

Spoiler:

Look, I don't care much about bad science these days. It bugged me a lot when I was younger, but I've since learned to unclench. So whatever. I don't care about continuity, either; if this invalidates the Alien films (or AvP) I really couldn't care less. I have nothing invested on that front, right? Right. But I do care about overuse of pathetically tired tropes, inconsistent plots, and vapid, boring characters about whom I could not be bothered to give a shit, and Prometheus is full of all of these.

-- Why do we need another progenitor scenario? It's boring. It's been done, and even when it's done well it's trite and stupid.

-- Why do we need to have our female lead deal with one of the three female fates assigned to women in film? Ripley managed to avoid them in Alien and Aliens (the less said about the others the better) and Scott knows better, so why?

-- Why is the fucking android the only character in the flick who's even a tiny bit interesting?

-- Why are we dealing with black goo again? Didn't we get enough of that in District 9? It was dumb there and it's even dumber here. And speaking of that, this is a really shitty WMD guys. Don't these engineers have bombs and shit? Fuck it, never mind, I don't care. I just wish the stupid black goo did something specific instead of being an all purpose plot device in goo form.

-- So Tweedledee and Tweedledum freak out when they hear about life signs in their vicinity, but when they actually encounter life forms they treat them like fucking hamsters. What the hell? Okay okay, they don't know they're in a horror flick, but simple prudence should have you going HEY GUYS MAYBE TOUCHING THE ALIEN LIFE FORM ISN'T SUCH A HOT IDEA M'KAY?

-- Science vs. atheism again? Didn't we do this in Contact already? I didn't like it there either but at least that flick made a decent stab at it. But seriously, lots of scientists are PERFECTLY OKAY with having religious beliefs, so I wish people would get over it already.

-- So the engineers created us, right? And then they gave us a map to their . . . super secret weapons facility? Uh, okay, cool story bro. But then they decide to build shitty biological weapons to wipe us out? The fuck? Make up your minds, guys! And seriously, your site security really sucks ass. Now we know you've botched the job on not one but two worlds, so maybe it's time you look into another profession or something. Just sayin'.

-- Don't filmmakers ever actually use computers? I mean, fuck, the whole holographic display bullshit for your starmap or whatever is just dumb as hell. It's dumb because it's not helpful or particularly interactive; it's just a big spectacle that nobody would ever use. I actually liked the holo display on the Prometheus command deck, since they gave a 3D rendering of the ship they were investigating. That was cool. But the starmap thingie? Fuck that.

-- If you're gonna stick Charlize Theron in your flick, make her relevant! The chick's A-list talent and she's got some acting chops so giving her a pointless role like this is just a waste.

Fuck it, I'm rambling by this point, but hopefully you get the idea. There's a fuck of a lot of derp in this movie, and that's even when you take it on its own terms. I shoulda blown it off and done my Book of Bantorra review instead.



I was pretty much spoiled there, but who cares. My fears became reality.

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I was pretty much spoiled there, but who cares. My fears became reality.


Well, if you clicked on the spoiler . . . i dunno, lol

@BiQ: That reminds me of another complaint I had with the film: the aliens were ugly. I thought the Engineers were alright (but agree with Reichu re: general disappointment at their ancestry and appearance), but
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Shaw's squid child, its adult form at the end, and the horrid, horrid xenomorph

were all abominable. If they were cool-looking I probably would have given the movie a pass, and if they were awesome and functional and stuff I'd be singing its praises no matter the shoddy script. But their ugly randomness just made me feel I got suckered into a shit script by name recognition and pretty visuals and didn't even get a consolation prize to take the sting out of the disappointment.
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I almost want to give the snake aliens a pass, since they had a pretty good design, but the whole "we rape random critters and kill them for no discernible reason, then lie in wait so we can shock the next critter that comes by!" MO just wrecked them for me. Reproduction is fine. Eating is fine. But body horror for its own sake, just to squick out the audience? C'mon, man. That's as lazy as it gets. The combination of acid for blood and instant regeneration didn't help.

Gods, the more I think about it the more it infuriates me. Maybe I'm just too old and jaded to appreciate modern storytelling.

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Well, if you clicked on the spoiler . . . i dunno, lol


That's what happens when curiosity makes R'lyeh rise from the ocean.

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I was pretty much spoiled there, but who cares. My fears became reality.


Prometheus has a few problems, but it's nowhere near as awful as The Thing prequel. For what it's worth, about 3/4ths of the people who've seen it in this thread at least thought it was worth watching. I went in being told it had awful dialogue, interchangeable characters, caked-on cliches and a nonsensical confusing plot, and I didn't see any of that myself. (I can see a couple of the flaws in retrospect, but I still loved the film.) Since it seems to be so polarizing, you really should see and decide for yourself.

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It's a very unique summer movie going experience. Unlike almost all summer blockbusters it doesn't easily fall into the IT SUCKS or IT'S GREAT camps on its own. The perception is entirely based on what YOU bring to the film.

If you're expecting a passive, look at the cool 'splosions while I'm told everything leading up to ALIEN movie you will probably be disappointed. If you want to see a slightly immersive, exceptionally well shot & constructed film this just might be up your alley.

I can understand why people can HATE the film. But I can also understand why people LOVE the film. Personally I'm in the "Love" category. It goes a little bonkers in the third act when a lot of the ideas are just dropped unfulfilled to make way for 'splosions & action set pieces, but it's a damn fine film regardless.

It's certainly a better theatrical experience than a lot of the sci-fi passed off as classics as of late - like Avatar & Halo, I mean District 9.
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I don't mean to be picky but, uh, that's a first person shooter that came out 11 years ago, relatively recent, but not a film.

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It's a very unique summer movie going experience. Unlike almost all summer blockbusters it doesn't easily fall into the IT SUCKS or IT'S GREAT camps on its own. The perception is entirely based on what YOU bring to the film.


Total disagreement. I went into the film expecting pretty much nothing; I had no idea what it was beyond the fact that it was loosely inspired by Alien. I took it entirely on its own merits, fully willing to play by its rules. It made that difficult at the start and completely impossible in the second half.

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If you're expecting a passive, look at the cool 'splosions while I'm told everything leading up to ALIEN movie you will probably be disappointed. If you want to see a slightly immersive, exceptionally well shot & constructed film this just might be up your alley.


Again, I disagree. Parts of the film were well-shot, yes, but it was not by any means well-constructed. The plot was a shambles start to finish, the characters were paper-thin and the premise was utterly confusing. No film with those traits can be called well-constructed.

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I can understand why people can HATE the film. But I can also understand why people LOVE the film. Personally I'm in the "Love" category. It goes a little bonkers in the third act when a lot of the ideas are just dropped unfulfilled to make way for 'splosions & action set pieces, but it's a damn fine film regardless.


These are contradictory ideas. How can it be a damn fine film if it drops its ideas and gives way to a mindless action piece?

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It's certainly a better theatrical experience than a lot of the sci-fi passed off as classics as of late - like Avatar & Halo, I mean District 9.


Avatar was a shitstorm of imperialism and hackneyed movie tropes made manifest, but it was a hell of a lot more coherent than Prometheus was (and for that matter I think it easily matched Prometheus in terms of cinematography as well). And District 9, magical goo and nonsensical aliens aside, was likewise a lot more consistent in both the presentation and execution of its ideas. Don't know what you're on about re: Halo, since that was never a movie.

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I think I get what you mean: District 9 does have a Halo feeling. The first time I watched District 9, I was reminded constantly about Halo. Perhaps it is because that's how I think the style of the dead Halo film would've been.

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The 'Halo, I mean District 9' bit was a direct nod to the fact that Neil Blomkamp was making HALO: THE MOVIE before it was shut down & the production team was reconfigured to make DISTRICT 9.

'District 9' is a decent movie but not a classic by any means. And the whole damn thing is another case of an originally compelling movie that abandons all it's ideas in the last act for simple explosions & gun fights. The last third of 'District 9' IS Neill Blomkamp's Halo Movie, just under a different name.

Also, agree to disagree. Everyone else I've talked to has had vastly different opinions regarding the film based on what little they brought or didn't bring to it. Those who wanted 'Alien Origins' were let down. Those who didn't, tended to enjoy it. The fact you disagree with me means little cause that's YOUR view. Just like what I state is mine.
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Also, agree to disagree. Everyone else I've talked to has had vastly different opinions regarding the film based on what little they brought or didn't bring to it. Those who wanted 'Alien Origins' were let down. Those who didn't, tended to enjoy it. The fact you disagree with me means little cause that's YOUR view. Just like what I state is mine.


I just told you I wasn't in it for Alien: Origins. I also gave substantive reasons for my opinion, so falling back on "well that's just, like, your opinion man" doesn't quite work. You are of course allowed to enjoy it despite its flaws. Just don't act like I hated it on account of unreasonable expectations, since that's not the case.

Also, see the link provided by Mr. Tines and reposted by me in my first post in the thread. The commentary there has nothing to do with the movie's ability to serve as a prequel to Alien.

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 17, 2012 10:44 pm    Post subject:
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the aliens were ugly. I thought the Engineers were alright (but agree with Reichu re: general disappointment at their ancestry and appearance)

Engineers' ... ancestry? I'm not sure what you're referring to here.

Far as the other aliens go:

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They become ensnared by the much-recounted problems with the black goop. E.g., the big question: is it just narrativium with no internal logic behind it, or are we simply not made privy to that logic yet? The cynical viewpoint is tempting, but I don't feel obligated to settle on anything at this point. Maybe there is something that could be revealed in Prometheus 2 that would put everything into place, including why the various lifeforms brought into existence by the black slime look the way they do.

What was so terrible about the Deacon? You're calling it a "xenomorph", so maybe that's coloring impressions. As far as I know, the relationship, if any, between the Deacon and the familiar Gigerian xenomorphs is totally unknown. The "life cycle" that brought the Deacon into existence clearly resembles the xenomorphs' in many ways, but not enough to mean that it actually is the same kind of creature.

But, if it is meaningfully a xenomorph*, it could be some kind of Newborn-esque abomination, albeit one resulting from Engineer technology rather than our own. If that's what they were going for, am I ever glad the thing is black, eyeless, and DFC.

* (Going by the fan use of the term, not the literal definition.)

By the way, did you miss the implication that the "snake alien" was a mutated form of a preexisting worm-like organism? I don't think it was supposed to act like a natural creature, because it wasn't one.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:32 am    Post subject:
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Reichu:

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View Original Post Reichu wrote:
Engineers' ... ancestry? I'm not sure what you're referring to here.


Ancestry was not the right word. I was trying to refer to the fact that they were genetically identical to humans without giving out spoilers. Pedigree maybe? Not sure.

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They become ensnared by the much-recounted problems with the black goop. E.g., the big question: is it just narrativium with no internal logic behind it, or are we simply not made privy to that logic yet? The cynical viewpoint is tempting, but I don't feel obligated to settle on anything at this point. Maybe there is something that could be revealed in Prometheus 2 that would put everything into place, including why the various lifeforms brought into existence by the black slime look the way they do.


Given the problems with the rest of the film I'm not inclined to give Scott that much rope.

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What was so terrible about the Deacon?


It was just an uninteresting, comical, utterly boring design. Had it looked more like this I'd be inclined to cut it more slack, but as is it just looks like some random alien design someone thought up off the cuff with no thought or detail whatsoever informing its design.

(I'm aware that that fanart is heavily influenced by Cameron's version of Giger's alien, but IMO that's a virtue; why bother going that route without committing to it fully? If they wanted to do something more original they should have done that rather than do a half-assed knockoff that's obviously meant to be connected to what we know and love in some fashion.)

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You're calling it a "xenomorph",


I was intending to use it in a generic sense, but that was probably a bad idea given its history within the franchise (why Cameron decided to attach a geologic term to an alien critter is beyond me). On its relationship to the familiar Gigeresque aliens:

Damon Lindelorf wrote:
Ridley Scott's 2012 film Prometheus, originally conceived as a direct prequel to Alien,[45] ends with the birth of a creature noted[46] for its similarity to those in the Alien franchise. Scott christened the creature the Deacon during the pre-production phase of the film.[47] When discussing the film's connection to Alien, co-writer Damon Lindelof asked: "Do you need to see a xenomorph bursting out of the human body? And how do we do it in a way that you haven't seen before?"[48] Lindelof stated that whether the creature is a Queen Alien, or the progenitor of the eggs found by the crew in the original Alien, is open to interpretation but rounded off by saying:"I felt that the punchline of Prometheus was going to be that there is human DNA in what we have come to know as the human Xenomorph."


From Wikipedia. Full interview in Dickson, Evan (June 12, 2012). "[Interview Damon Lindelof On The Origins Of The Engineers And Whatever’s In The Final Shot Of ‘Prometheus’"]. Bloody Disgusting. Retrieved June 13, 2012.
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By the way, did you miss the implication that the "snake alien" was a mutated form of a preexisting worm-like organism? I don't think it was supposed to act like a natural creature, because it wasn't one.


Yeah, I know. Which is sad, since it looked like one of the more convincing critters in the show. But regardless, its behavior was nonsensical and that jolted me out of the movie at a couple of points (also, super duper physical qualities, as noted earlier, were a turnoff).


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 7:45 am    Post subject:
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If you ask me, I think the biggest reason a lot of the most rabid haters of the film is that they were expecting the film to be along the lines of something like 2001, Solaris and Moon...except with the Space Jockeys and Proto-Xenos.

and if you guys admit that, then that's probably the most foolish mindset to go into regarding this because of one of the following things or so.

A: Ridley Scott and the writers weren't capable of doing such a film

B: Ridley Scott and the writers are capable but knew that wouldn't be the best route to go to

C: Ridley Scott and the writers probably are capable and were trying to go that route but the heads at Fox knew that wouldn't be a very mainstream friendly flick and would've been too much of a deviation from the series (which was never high art to begin with. Please savor your fucking overboasting of how Alien is apparently a very arty and experimental movie with "Deep" themes. It's an excellent movie, had a lot of great craftsmenship and even has a bit of space for interpretation but the film was simply an almost Roger Corman produced cheapie that managed to get filmed by a major studio as a big budget romp thanks to the success of Star Wars)

and/or

D: Fox, Scott and Co. got into a lot of creative fights that probably stifled the overall product (as I recall, Scott wasn't intending to direct the film in the first place but was somehow persuaded to do so in the end).

But yeah, this polarizing split of opinions is almost as silly and bad as Rebuild 2.0. However, it's not like Mass Effect 3's ending and the AVP movies where we all agree that it was balls, but honestly I find polarizing opinions to be the most frustrating thing to debate.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:17 am    Post subject:
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If you ask me, I think the biggest reason a lot of the most rabid haters of the film is that they were expecting the film to be along the lines of something like 2001, Solaris and Moon...except with the Space Jockeys and Proto-Xenos.


I don't understand why people keep talking about why they think people hated the film instead of paying attention to the reasons people actually give for being unhappy with it. Why speculate about motivations when people are actually telling you straight up what they are?

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 18, 2012 9:29 am    Post subject:
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... I'm one of the biggest supporters of the film does that mean I can't admit that it has flaws no. I love the fact that its an unconventional Prequel in the sense that it was set in the star system of Alien 3 decades before ALIEN. I liked how Prometheus set up its own franchise while at the same time swinging the barn gate open in the direction of ALIEN. So even if we don't get something that leads directly into ALIEN per se with Prometheus 2 Paradise (Temp. Title) and Prometheus 3 the Alien community has the leg room to do the math and fill in the blanks themselves.

... What I'm interested in seeing in Prometheus 2 is what trouble Shaw walks into on her own. Remember she's not a soldier she's an archeologist. I want to see the Engineer's homeworld and whatever nightmare's that get unleashed because of her arrival their.
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